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Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:09 am
by Dutchy
It happens every year....when is someone going to realise you cant flog the human body to death without it giving up under pressure...

If I was a fan I would be might pissed off about the player mangement down there...they are not cyclists!

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:10 am
by Dirko
Quite ironic that one of the blokes the Crows de listed in Matty Bode had had a injury free year so far and is in good form...

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:12 am
by Booney
I recall this veing a hotly debated topic once before,and I have to agree.

In 05 and 06 Adelaide fell short of the mark with a few stars missing important games at the end of the year.Now,injuries are not always bad luck,some are from bad managment.

Bode is probably training at about 70% the capacity he was at AFL level.I would think the Bays would give him some lee-way to keep him on the park.

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:20 am
by am Bays
Dutchy wrote:It happens every year....when is someone going to realise you cant flog the human body to death without it giving up under pressure...

If I was a fan I would be might pissed off about the player mangement down there...they are not cyclists!


Dutchy very hard to to train to prevent injuries such as shoulder and knee sprains/tears. Muscular injuries yes, ACLs and shoulder dislocations no.

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:22 am
by Rik E Boy
Adelaide aren't the only team with injuries either. Did you see Kennelly's shoulder hanging out against the Hawks. He's GAWNSKI.

regards,

REB

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:23 am
by Booney
Popping it back in twice in one game was extraordinary.Breed them tough over there is Spudland.

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:26 am
by Hondo
FFS Dutchy here we go again ..... Burton does a knee, Porps pops his shoulder and you want to bring this up again?

Apart from Hentschell & Biglands impacted from serious knee injuries we have McLeod & Reilly with minor ones coming back. Our injury list excluding impact injuries would be on par with everyone else. Unless you have some sensible facts behind the sensationalistic headline (remember you are hot on the media glossing over facts).

If we had a spate of hamstring injuries such as the Bombers at the start of the year then you might have a case. But impact injuries are a bad luck part of footy and you know as well as I do.

Why isn't this on the Crows Board BTW :?

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:28 am
by Dutchy
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Dutchy wrote:It happens every year....when is someone going to realise you cant flog the human body to death without it giving up under pressure...

If I was a fan I would be might pissed off about the player mangement down there...they are not cyclists!


Dutchy very hard to to train to prevent injuries such as shoulder and knee sprains/tears. Muscular injuries yes, ACLs and shoulder dislocations no.


Im not so sure Tassie, I used to think your way but the human body is a wonderful thing, I reckon tiredness of the muscles and tendons around joints and bones could easily lead to ACL's and dislocations...

I agree a lot of it relates to luck, but there is also a preparation factor....when was the last time they had a good run with injuries? 97/98? Coincidence?

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:30 am
by Dutchy
I think its a reasonable topic for discussion Hondo...

You could add that 80% of Crows players look very very tired of late, not injured, but very tired...

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:39 am
by Hondo
Dutchy, get your facts straight ...

- in 1997 we were missing Liptak, Tregenza, Ricciuto, Vardy and Modra for the GF
- in 1998 prev year premiership players Jameson, Bond were missing - not as many admittedly

However, what is generally regarded as one of the key foundations of those 2 premierships? Our fitness and preparation as we ran over both the Saints and the Roos. Who was our fitness coach? Neil Craig.

Every single player in every single team is sore at this stage of a season. We have a number of junior feeling the pinch as most experts (including REB on here) predicted.

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:43 am
by am Bays
Dutchy wrote:Im not so sure Tassie, I used to think your way but the human body is a wonderful thing, I reckon tiredness of the muscles and tendons around joints and bones could easily lead to ACL's and dislocations...

I agree a lot of it relates to luck, but there is also a preparation factor....when was the last time they had a good run with injuries? 97/98? Coincidence?


Mate catestrophic knee and shoulder injuries are multi-factorial and yes fatigue can be a factor but given Burtons known aerobic power levels and that it occured in teh 1st half I would be surprised if it was a factor the same with Porplezya.

if this was a re-injury of Burtons I think you can reasonably ask is teh fitness rehab at fault. With porplezya it is an injury they have been trying to manage and given teh instability of the shoulder joint once theya re loose they are going to pop out time and time again - a la Kennelay.

However it is a reasonable question to ask But IMO opinion not in this case repeat muscle strains however....

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:52 am
by Dutchy
Look this isnt a troll, to be honest beyond the Roos I like to see the Crows suceed before any other team, and if Im frustrated I can imagine what their fans think...

and we never know the status of these guys before they enter the game, there is no doubt Goodwin has an injury....

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:13 pm
by MatteeG
I was at the Geelong v cows game last week and Porplyzia's shoulder was shot then. he reached for a high ball and was feeling it for the rest of the game. Was just a matter of time.

As for Tadgh yesterday, that was extraordinary.... full marks for toughness for the bloke, he has had joints popping out everywhere this year...

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:44 pm
by Dutchy
why was this moved?

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:17 pm
by Interceptor
Dutchy wrote:Look this isnt a troll, to be honest beyond the Roos I like to see the Crows suceed before any other team, and if Im frustrated I can imagine what their fans think...

and we never know the status of these guys before they enter the game, there is no doubt Goodwin has an injury....

I think the club acknowledged a back complaint for Goodwin before the Brisbane game.

I didn't see him do a lot against the Pies, but he had a big game against Geelong, so he it's not crippling him.
Given the current injury list, he there's little choice but for him to play.

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:44 pm
by magpie in the 80's
Dutchy wrote:why was this moved?

i moved it because i agree with hondo that it is a specific adelaide crows topic by your title of the thread:D

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:13 pm
by Dutchy
magpie in the 80's wrote:
Dutchy wrote:why was this moved?

i moved it because i agree with hondo that it is a specific adelaide crows topic by your title of the thread:D


but now only Crows fans will discuss :?

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:01 pm
by magpie in the 80's
Dutchy wrote:
magpie in the 80's wrote:
Dutchy wrote:why was this moved?

i moved it because i agree with hondo that it is a specific adelaide crows topic by your title of the thread:D


but now only Crows fans will discuss :?

you trying to tell me no one other than crows people enter this room :-k :? i dont think so

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:09 pm
by jackpot jim
Spot on MIT80s. Go the Power. :wink:

Re: Adelaide Crows = Injuries....again

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:10 pm
by hearts on fire
jackpot jim wrote:Spot on MIT80s. Go the Power. :wink:

touche.....