Round 13: Game Previews/Reviews + General Discussion

[hearts on fire]

FRIDAY JUNE 20:

St.Kilda vs Fremantle @ Telstra Dome - 7:40pm

SATURDAY JUNE 21:

Hawthorn vs North Melbourne @ Melbourne Cricket Ground - 2:10pm

Port Adelaide vs Richmond @ AAMI Stadium - 2:40pm

West Coast vs Geelong @ Subiaco - 5:40pm

Brisbane vs Adelaide @ The Gabba - 7:10pm

SUNDAY JUNE 22:

Melbourne vs Sydney @ Manuka Oval - 1:10pm

Carlton vs Essendon @ Melbourne Cricket Ground - 2:10pm

Collingwood vs Western Bulldogs @ Telstra Dome - 4:40pm

[Footy Smart]

FRIDAY JUNE 20:

St.Kilda vs Fremantle @ Telstra Dome - 7:40pm

SATURDAY JUNE 21:

Hawthorn vs North Melbourne @ Melbourne Cricket Ground - 2:10pm

Port Adelaide vs Richmond @ AAMI Stadium - 2:40pm

West Coast vs Geelong @ Subiaco - 5:40pm

Brisbane vs Adelaide @ The Gabba - 7:10pm

SUNDAY JUNE 22:

Melbourne vs Sydney @ Manuka Oval - 1:10pm

Carlton vs Essendon @ Melbourne Cricket Ground - 2:10pm

Collingwood vs Western Bulldogs @ Telstra Dome - 4:40pm

Some massive consequences hang on the results of some games

-Saints cannot loose otherwise season is basically over
-Port and Richmond playing to have some point for the rest of the season
-North Melbourne could slip further behind the 8 (pretty much expected to happen)
-Must win for Adelaide they have been questioned about quality of team v's draw and need to get over the line after a gutsy display against the hawks
- Carlton must win to stay in 8
-Collingwood not as good as people think so big test for them to prove there worth in the 8

[hearts on fire]

I think this weeks "game of the round" would have to be Brisbane vs Adelaide.

Both in a similar position on the ladder and this game could make or break their season.

I can't go past Brisbane at The Gabba though, if it was anywhere else i would pick Adelaide.

[Dirko]

The Pies v Dogs game is huge. Collingwood drop that and they are a huge chance of missing the 8. Dogs by 23

I'd take Adelaide over Brisbane, as they match up well, and would have a sting in the tail after coughing it up last week, Adelaide by 18

It's now or never. The Saints lose to Freo and they are gawn!! Time for them to stand up..Saints by 11

Hawthorn to good for the Roos, who lose McIntosh a massive out. Hawthorn by 45

Port should/could be Richmond...Richmond season over if they lose. Port by 32

West Coast better start playing Saturday to beat Geelong...no chance...Geelong by 69

Melbourne shouldn't even bother taking off the tracksuit...Sydney by 49

Essendon had a win at last, Carlton travelling OK. Blues need to win to stay in touch, and redeem from the last meeting Carlton by 28

[Psyber]

I'd go with you on those SJABC - even the margins.

[hearts on fire]

My Tips:

St.Kilda
Hawthorn
Port Adelaide
Geelong
Brisbane
Sydney
Carlton
Western Bulldogs

[Thiele]

Congrats Adam Cooney on 100 AFL games

[Q.]

It'll be interesting to see how Mick structures the Pies' forward line with no Cloke or Rocca. Their small forwards were barely seen against Carlton and they would all have to make decent contributions for them to be any chance of winning. Rocket will be a tough one to outsmart. Good to see Presti will be having a run in the VFL, hope it goes well for the lanky fella.

Chance of showers around the MCG on Friday night, might bring the Hawks v Kangas game a bit closer. Might.

Adelaide big chance of knocking off the Lions. Burton and Reilly will probably come back in. Any word on Bradshaw?

[JK]

St Kilda
Hawthorn
Port
Geelong
Brisbane (tough one)
Sydney
Essendon
Collingwood

[Thiele]

St Kilda v Fremantle
Telstra Dome @ 7.40pm

ST KILDA
B: Sean Dempster, Max Hudghton, Jason Gram
HB: Brendon Goddard, Sam Gilbert, Sam Fisher
C: Andrew McQualter, Lenny Hayes, Jarryn Geary
HF: Robert Harvey, Nick Riewoldt, Charlie Gardiner
F: Clint Jones, Jarryd Allen, David Armitage
Foll: Steven King, Luke Ball, Leigh Montagna
Int: James Gwilt, Jason Blake, Ben McEvoy, Robert Eddy
Emg: Nick Dal Santo, Shane Birss, Brad Howard

In: Armitage, Eddy, Allen, McEvoy
Out: Dal Santo (omitted), Milne (omitted), M Gardiner (injured), Schneider (injured)

New: Robert Eddy (Gippsland/St K Rookie), Jarryd Allen (Calder), Ben McEvoy (Murray)

FREMANTLE
B: Ryley Dunn, Antoni Grover, Michael Johnson
HB: David Mundy, Luke McPharlin, Roger Hayden
C: Garrick Ibbotson, Peter Bell, Brett Peake
HF: Rhys Palmer, Chris Tarrant, Ryan Murphy
F: Mark Johnson, Matthew Pavlich, Chris Mayne
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Ryan Crowley, Josh Carr
Int: Jeff Farmer, Dean Solomon, Robert Warnock, Byron Schammer
Emg: Steven Dodd, Clayton Hinkley, Brock O'Brien

No change

Saturday June 21

Hawthorn v North Melbourne
MCG @ 2.10pm

HAWTHORN
B: Brent Guerra, Stephen Gilham, Campbell Brown
HB: Grant Birchall, Thomas Murphy, Rick Ladson
C: Jordan Lewis, Sam Mitchell, Clinton Young
HF: Cyril Rioli, Lance Franklin, Michael Osborne
F: Mark Williams, Jarryd Roughead, Tim Boyle
Foll: Robert Campbell, Luke Hodge, Xavier Ellis
Int: Tim Clarke, Stuart Dew, Jarryd Morton, Brent Renouf
Emg: Josh Kennedy, Travis Tuck, Brendan Whitecross

In: Guerra
Out: Chance Bateman (hamstring)

NORTH MELBOURNE
B: Michael Firrito, Shannon Watt, Gavin Urquhart
HB: Josh Gibson, Lachlan Hansen, Daniel Pratt
C: Matt Riggio, Adam Simpson, Daniel Wells
HF: Lindsay Thomas, Drew Petrie, Corey Jones
F: Brent Harvey, Nathan Thompson, Matt Campbell
R: David Hale, Daniel Harris, Brady Rawlings
Int: Ed Lower, Shannon Grant, Leigh Harding, Alan Obst
Emg:, Blake Grima, Josh Smith, Scott McMahon

In: Hansen, Watt, Jones, N Thompson, Grant, Obst
Out: McIntosh (knee), Power (groin), Scott Thompson, Leigh Brown, Ben Davies, Josh Smith (all omitted)

Port Adelaide v Richmond
AAMI Stadium @ 2.40pm

PORT ADELAIDE
B: Michael Pettigrew, Alipate Carlile, Michael Wilson
HB: Peter Burgoyne, Troy Chaplin, Steven Salopek
C: Domenic Cassisi, Chad Cornes, Kane Cornes
HF: David Rodan, Warren Tredrea, Travis Boak
F: Brett Ebert, Daniel Motlop, Robert Gray
Foll: Dean Brogan, Shaun Burgoyne, Danyle Pearce
Int: Brendon Lade, Tom Logan, Nick Lower, Matthew Thomas
Emg: Nathan Krakouer, Nathan Lonie, Damon White

In: Ebert, Thomas
Out: Jacob Surjan, Justin Westhoff (omitted)

RICHMOND
B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Joel Bowden
HB: Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Graham Polak, Richard Tambling
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Jordan McMahon
HF: Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Matt White
F: Nathan Brown, Cleve Hughes, Adam Pattison
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley
Int: Dean Polo, Mitch Morton, Chris Hyde, Luke McGuane
Emg: Daniel Connors, Jay Schulz, Alex Rance

In: Hughes, Polo
Out: Daniel Jackson (leg), Schulz

Brisbane Lions v Adelaide
Gabba @ 7.10pm

BRISBANE
B: Josh Drummond, Daniel Merrett, Joel Patfull
HB: Jared Brennan, Joel Macdonald, Troy Selwood
C: Anthony Corrie, Simon Black, Tim Notting
HF: Michael Rischitelli, Jonathan Brown, Justin Sherman
F: Rhan Hooper, Mitch Clark, Travis Johnstone
Foll: Jamie Charman, Luke Power, Jed Adcock
Int: Tom Collier, Ashley McGrath, Robert Copeland, James Polkinghorne, ,
Emg: Albert Proud, Lachlan Henderson, Scott Harding

In: Rischitelli, Copeland, Collier
Out: Jason Roe (hamstring), Cheynee Stiller (omit), Matthew Leuenberger (omit)

New: Tom Collier (Tassie Mariners. Taken in 2007 AFL Draft at No. 25)

ADELAIDE
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Nathan Bassett
HB: Andrew McLeod, Nathan Bock, Michael Doughty
C: Nathan van Berlo, Scott Thompson, Chris Knights
HF: Richard Douglas, Nick Gill, Bernie Vince
F: Jason Porplyzia, Kurt Tippett, Brett Burton
Foll: Ivan Maric, Simon Goodwin, Tyson Edwards
Int: Robert Shirley, Scott Stevens, Luke Jericho, Brent Reilly
Emg: Brad Symes, Patrick Dangerfield, Trent Hentschel

In: Burton, Gill, Reilly
Out: Jonathon Griffin (hip), David Mackay (omitted), Andy Otten (omitted)

West Coast v Geelong
Subiaco @ 5.40pm

WEST COAST
B: Adam Selwood, Darren Glass, Mark Nicoski
HB: Andrew Embley, Beau Wilkes, Brett Jones
C: Michael Braun, Daniel Kerr, Tim Houlihan
HF: Mark LeCras, Ashley Hansen, Sam Butler
F: David Wirrpanda, Adam Hunter, Quinten Lynch
Foll: Dean Cox, Matt Priddis, Chad Fletcher
Int: Brad Ebert, Ben McKinley, Will Schofield, Tyson Stenglein
Emg: Steven Armstrong, Ryan Davis, Jaymie Graham

In: Braun, Kerr, Hansen, Fletcher, McKinley
Out: Masten (hip), Davis, Seaby, McNamara, Staker (all omitted)

GEELONG
B: Tom Harley, Harry Taylor, Andrew Mackie
HB: Darren Milburn, Max Rooke, Corey Enright
C: Brent Prismall, Cameron Ling, Jimmy Bartel
HF: Steve Johnson, Cameron Mooney, Mathew Stokes
F: Paul Chapman, Tom Lonergan, James Kelly
Foll: Mark Blake, Joel Corey, Gary Ablett
Int: Josh Hunt, Brad Ottens, Joel Selwood, Travis Varcoe
Emg: Ryan Gamble, David Wojcinski, Kane Tenace

No change


Sunday June 22

Melbourne v Sydney
Manuka Oval @ 1.10pm

MELBOURNE
B: James McDonald, Colin Garland, Matthew Warnock
HB: Brad Green, Paul Wheatley, Cameron Bruce
C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Lynden Dunn
HF: Jace Bode, Matthew Bate, Aaron Davey
F: Paul Johnson, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, Clint Bartram, Nathan Jones
Int (from): James Frawley, Mark Jamar, Chris Johnson, Cale Morton, Shane Valenti, Matthew Whelan, Adem Yze

In: Whelan, Valenti, Jamar
Out: -

SYDNEY
B: Nick Malceski, Leo Barry, Martin Mattner
HB: Craig Bolton, Ted Richards, Tadhg Kennelly
C: Adam Goodes, Jarrad McVeigh, Amon Buchanan
HF: Ryan O’Keefe, Barry Hall, Luke Ablett
F: Paul Bevan, Michael O’Loughlin, Lewis Roberts-Thomson
Foll: Darren Jolly, Brett Kirk, Jude Bolton
Int (from): Craig Bird, Luke Brennan, Nic Fosdike, Kieren Jack, Ben Matthews , Jarrad Moore, Henry Playfair

In: Brennan, Fosdike, Mathews
Out: -

Carlton v Essendon
MCG @ 2.10pm

CARLTON
B: Andrew Carrazzo, Setanta O’hAilpin, Michael Jamison
HB: Bryce Gibbs, Bret Thornton, Dennis Armfield
C: Kade Simpson, Nick Stevens, Heath Scotland
HF: Brad Fisher, Jarrad Waite, Jordan Russell
F: Eddie Betts, Brendan Fevola, Matthew Kreuzer
Foll: Cameron Cloke, Chris Judd, Marc Murphy
Int (from): Mark Austin, Adam Bentick, Steven Browne , Shaun Grigg, Shaun Hampson, Darren Pfeiffer, Simon Wiggins

In: Austin, Browne, Pfeiffer
Out:

ESSENDON
B: Henry Slattery, Dustin Fletcher, Nathan Lovett-Murray
HB: Brent Stanton, Patrick Ryder, Mark McVeigh
C: Kyle Reimers, David Myers, Jay Nash
HF: Angus Monfries, Adam Mcphee, Andrew Welsh
F: Scott Lucas, Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle
Foll: David Hille, Andrew Lovett, Jobe Watson
Int (from): Adam Ramanauskas, Sam Lonergan, Leroy Jetta, Jason Laycock, Jarrod Atkinson, Tayte Pears, Ricky Dyson

In: Lovett, Pears, Dyson
Out:

Collingwood v Western Bulldogs
Telstra Dome @ 4.40pm

COLLINGWOOD
B: Heath Shaw, Shane Wakelin, Tarkyn Lockyer
HB: Martin Clarke, Nick Maxwell, Harry O’Brien
C: Ben Johnson, Scott Burns, Rhyce Shaw
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Ben Reid, Shane O’Bree
F: Alan Didak, Chris Bryan, Paul Medhurst
Foll: Cameron Wood, Dane Swan, Dale Thomas
Int (from): Danny Stanley, Alan Toovey, Tyson Goldsack, Nathan Brown, Sharrod Wellingham, Anthony Rocca, Ryan Cook

In: Cook, Goldsack, Rocca, Stanley, Toovey, Wood
Out: Travis Cloke (suspended), Leon Davis (injured), Josh Fraser (injured)

WESTERN BULLDOGS
B: Dale Morris, Brian Lake, Andrejs Everitt
HB: Ryan Hargrave, Tom Williams, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross, Nathan Eagleton
HF: Brad Johnson, Mitch Hahn, Robert Murphy
F: Scott Welsh, Will Minson, Jason Akermanis
Foll: Ben Hudson, Ryan Griffen, Adam Cooney
Int: Dylan Addison, Daniel Giansiracusa, Jarrod Harbrow, Josh Hill, Farren Ray, Peter Street, Callan Ward

In: Harbrow, Hill, Street
Out:

[the joker]

are the saints tanking

[hearts on fire]

are the saints tanking

there not tanking, there just plain sh1t

[hearts on fire]

Justin Westhoff has finally been dropped, should have happened months ago!

[saintal]

St Kilda started at about $1.70, now out to $2.35 in light of their ins/outs.

Not that he's had a good year, but there are 8-10 guys who should be dropped before Dal Santo

[hearts on fire]

Jeeze, I didn't think Dal Santo would get omitted from St.Kilda.

I agree saintal, many more should be dropped before him!

[Thiele]

my tips

Saints
Hawks
Power
Adelaide
Geelong
Sydnet
Carlton
Western Bulldogs

[Rik E Boy]

Freo will knock off the Saints
Hawks but only just again
Power by three or four goals
Crows by about the same
Catters with Stokes and Selwood to miss
Swannies no brainer
Carlton by four goals
Doggies easily over an unsettled Pies

regards,

REB

[JK]

St Kilda
Hawthorn
Port
Geelong
Brisbane (tough one)
Sydney
Essendon
Collingwood

OK, having seen the line-up's I'll change to:

Freo
Hawks
Power
Cats
Lions (still tough to call)
Sydney
Bombers
Doggies

[Thiele]

The worst games of the year toinght was palyed at the Dome. thank god there are more interesting gmes to come over the weeked

[saintal]

The worst games of the year toinght was palyed at the Dome. thank god there are more interesting gmes to come over the weeked

Yep, as discussed at length in the other thread, completely agree.

Pity Lenny Hayes went off when he did. One of the few saints who still plays footy as it should be played