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Was thinking the other day about the AFL Trade and Draft processes and how they differ to other systems of Elite sporting competitions throughout the world.

For example, in the NBA, clubs/franchises are able to trade current picks, future picks (and can even protect some), cash and rostered players, all whilst still operating within a salary cap.

Free agents are common to many leagues.

I know we have a host of people on this site familiar with other leagues throughout the world ... Are there are any other major differences to their processes and ours?

Would love to see a transfer window, say at the midseason break, where like the EPL etc they can get players that are required etc etc.
For example...Adelaide struggling for a key forward, get Chambo in on a short term contract for the second half of the year...

In the NFL you can even trade coaches for draft picks!

hondo71 wrote:In the NFL you can even trade coaches for draft picks!

Are you serious?

Surely not...

The AFL's would have to be the most restrictive of any comp which employs these systems.

Mr66 wrote:The AFL's would have to be the most restrictive of any comp which employs these systems.

I agree...bring back the pre draft days !!

SJABC wrote:

Mr66 wrote:The AFL's would have to be the most restrictive of any comp which employs these systems.

I agree...bring back the pre draft days !!

Then every team would overspend and get into the same predicaments
of the '70s & '80s.

Mr66 wrote:

SJABC wrote:

Mr66 wrote:The AFL's would have to be the most restrictive of any comp which employs these systems.

I agree...bring back the pre draft days !!

Then every team would overspend and get into the same predicaments
of the '70s & '80s.

or the 2000's

SJABC wrote:

Mr66 wrote:

SJABC wrote:

Mr66 wrote:The AFL's would have to be the most restrictive of any comp which employs these systems.

I agree...bring back the pre draft days !!

Then every team would overspend and get into the same predicaments
of the '70s & '80s.

or the 2000's

You may not think so, but believe me SJABC, but the game is in waaaaay better shape than when I was growing up.

Bring in zoning, by far the simplest and fair system. There is some issues because of 10 clubs in Victoria, but I think they could be worked through.

Mr66 wrote:You may not think so, but believe me SJABC, but the game is in waaaaay better shape than when I was growing up.

Undoubtedly it is in better shape financially and the way it's run etc, but IMO I prefer the way the game was played in the 80's....

SJABC wrote:

Mr66 wrote:You may not think so, but believe me SJABC, but the game is in waaaaay better shape than when I was growing up.

Undoubtedly it is in better shape financially and the way it's run etc, but IMO I prefer the way the game was played in the 80's....

Yeah, I won't argue that point.
The '70s were probably better than the '80s.

NFC wrote:

hondo71 wrote:In the NFL you can even trade coaches for draft picks!

Are you serious?

Surely not...

Quite serious

About 5 years ago Tampa Bay got Oakland's head coach while in contract and part of the deal involved draft picks!

The current AFL Draft system was introduced by the VFL in 1986 due to many issues in the 1980s including the legality of the residential zoning and transfer and clearance rules. These rules were declared void in 1983 as a unreasonable restraint of trade.
The AFLPA has argued that the current draft and trade system is a restraint of trade. They propose changin the current system to allow for eaiser player trades to occur. One major idea is to alter the current system to allow for draft picks on future drafts to be traded in exchange for players. The AFL is likely to agree to some change as the AFLPA has 100% membership and are wishing to avoid potential litigation.
One of the major reasons that the current draft and trading system has been in effect basically unchanged for over twenty years is the support that the AFLPA has put behind it. The AFLPA has 100 percent membership of players and as such have a great amount of influence over any changes to and legal challenges to the system. The current AFLPA chief executive Brendan Gale has been quoted of the AFL Draft as “it’s a restraint of trade but it’s a restraint that we think is a reasonable restraint and works in the best interest of the competition at large.”

brod wrote:The current AFL Draft system was introduced by the VFL in 1986 due to many issues in the 1980s including the legality of the residential zoning and transfer and clearance rules. These rules were declared void in 1983 as a unreasonable restraint of trade.
The AFLPA has argued that the current draft and trade system is a restraint of trade. They propose changin the current system to allow for eaiser player trades to occur. One major idea is to alter the current system to allow for draft picks on future drafts to be traded in exchange for players. The AFL is likely to agree to some change as the AFLPA has 100% membership and are wishing to avoid potential litigation.
One of the major reasons that the current draft and trading system has been in effect basically unchanged for over twenty years is the support that the AFLPA has put behind it. The AFLPA has 100 percent membership of players and as such have a great amount of influence over any changes to and legal challenges to the system. The current AFLPA chief executive Brendan Gale has been quoted of the AFL Draft as “it’s a restraint of trade but it’s a restraint that we think is a reasonable restraint and works in the best interest of the competition at large.”

Thats a joke if the zoning policy was removed on the grounds of restraint of trade, just deadset ridiculous. 95% of players want to play for a club in their home state. Surely the common sense approach is for players wanting to play for a club in their state to be able to do so and the rest to be go into some type of draft system and finish up wherever.

I was always under the impression that it was that (#^%wit Allan Schwab who after going to America decided that they'd copy the draft (and salary cap) system, in order to even up the competition. Only problem was he (and Oakley) forget to realise he was looking at an American sporting competition and not an Australian. Australia has a different culture and the draft is one Americanism i wish they hadn't have brought in!!