bye bye neil craig

[OnSong]

Wasn't it James Sellar who did the double punch? Explains a lot really. Lol.

[Gingernuts]

Wasn't it James Sellar who did the double punch? Explains a lot really. Lol.

Doughty punched it straight to two Collingwood players at one stage as well. Sellar is still fairly green at AFL level, but Doughty should really know better.

[mighty hounds]

As a 'keydefender' is shits me why Adelaides backline goes for the double handed punch. Surley if you can get 2 hands to the ball you can mark it. This results in a turnover.. which is why they drill these players to tackle and create one. I counted 3 goals resulting from a Crows clearing punch when a mark was a safe and achievable option. I know thats why they did not loose the game.. but little things like this can stop the flow.

It's my biggest pet hate in football .. I know there are times when it's acceptable to spoil from a marking position, but it's in the minority IMHO. When a player can clearly get their two hands to the ball first then FFS mark the bloody thing - Supposed to be elite footballers so an overhead mark shouldn't be out of the question.

That obviously doesn't just apply to the Crows, but IMHO it gave up two crucial last quarter goals to Collingwood yesterday.

I can understand it if you know your going to be outnumbered in the air and on the deck, or like you said if the prime purpose is to create a stoppage. But the number of times I've seen it happen at AFL level (and even SANFL level from AFL listed players) when a player is 3rd man up and has a teammate holding his opponent at bay is just crazy IMHO.

No doubt I wouldn't know as much as the coaches out there, but I really dont understand why it happens so often.
Being a defender myself, I only two handed punch if I'm going to do it over the boundary line, any other time its a spoil to a team mate thats hopefully where he should be front and square or its a mark. I was shaking my head the amount of times the Crows done it when not needed and it cost them goals at crucial stages of the match

The only thing I can think of is just incase the 3rd man up drops the marks creates that oppurtinty to score but being an AFL they should be able to make un opposed.

[Rik E Boy]

No plan b again! Why does everyone, members, media and players and especially the scientist himself, accept that they stuck with collingwood for over 3 quarters and thats a good effort? No its not. Football is 4 quarters and you need to play it out! I hate the Adelaide media. I remember Choco losing a game in similar style, hounded over it!

And FWIW, dont argue that I should worry about my team, as I was a Crows fan until i was fed up with mediocrity, and i dont even like the bulldogs that much!

BWAHAHAA. Sorry...no, can't help it BWAHAHAHA.

regards,

REB

[JK]

I reckon Rutten could have taken one in the last quarter, although from memory he had an opponent in the contest and waiting on the deck in front of him ... Problem was his spoil didn't go to an advantageous position and Collingwood goaled anyway.

[Booney]

No plan b again! Why does everyone, members, media and players and especially the scientist himself, accept that they stuck with collingwood for over 3 quarters and thats a good effort? No its not. Football is 4 quarters and you need to play it out! I hate the Adelaide media. I remember Choco losing a game in similar style, hounded over it!

And FWIW, dont argue that I should worry about my team,

as I was a Crows fan until i was fed up with mediocrity, and i dont even like the bulldogs that much!

LMFAO.

Dumped the Crows as you were sick of being mediocre and went to the Bulldogs even though you didn't really like them much. That's GOLD mate, can I have you round for a BBQ sometime so we can talk about this further?

[Gingernuts]

I reckon Rutten could have taken one in the last quarter, although from memory he had an opponent in the contest and waiting on the deck in front of him ... Problem was his spoil didn't go to an advantageous position and Collingwood goaled anyway.

Yea, we can pull out individual moments but TBH Collingwood was all over Adelaide like an army of fat kids on 22 helpless tasty little cupcakes.

Punch, Mark, doesn't matter really, it was black and white everywhere. It needed to be a team effort to get back into the game, and Adelaide was rooted all over the ground.

[lebron]

Typical, deflecting attention from where it is needed, laughing at my 'team' and concerned with punches?!?! FFS listen to yourselves, your team / squad is good and should be doing a lot better than what they are delivering! Give it up Craigy, just quit mate! Adelaide media, what a joke, enough said!

[Booney]

Typical, deflecting attention from where it is needed, laughing at my 'team' and concerned with punches?!?! FFS listen to yourselves, your team / squad is good and should be doing a lot better than what they are delivering! Give it up Craigy, just quit mate! Adelaide media, what a joke, enough said!

Crows or Bulldogs?

[mighty_tiger_79]

Typical, deflecting attention from where it is needed, laughing at my 'team' and concerned with punches?!?! FFS listen to yourselves, your team / squad is good and should be doing a lot better than what they are delivering! Give it up Craigy, just quit mate! Adelaide media, what a joke, enough said!

Crows or Bulldogs?

both

[lebron]

Typical, deflecting attention from where it is needed, laughing at my 'team' and concerned with punches?!?! FFS listen to yourselves, your team / squad is good and should be doing a lot better than what they are delivering! Give it up Craigy, just quit mate! Adelaide media, what a joke, enough said!

Crows or Bulldogs?

both

Agreed, both, but we were talking about the Crows werent we?

[mighty hounds]

Typical, deflecting attention from where it is needed, laughing at my 'team' and concerned with punches?!?! FFS listen to yourselves, your team / squad is good and should be doing a lot better than what they are delivering! Give it up Craigy, just quit mate! Adelaide media, what a joke, enough said!

Your a dead set moron, don't need people like you supporting the crows! Now that the Bulldogs aren't performing are you going to jump ship?

[lebron]

More deflection. Maybe its not just Adelaide media, but Crows supporters in general! Wasting my time! Be happy with 5-12 for the remainder of his stint! Enjoy!

[mighty_tiger_79]

More deflection. Maybe its not just Adelaide media, but Crows supporters in general! Wasting my time! Be happy with 5-12 for the remainder of his stint! Enjoy!

very hard to argue with that

[mighty hounds]

More deflection. Maybe its not just Adelaide media, but Crows supporters in general! Wasting my time! Be happy with 5-12 for the remainder of his stint! Enjoy!

5-12 bullodgs looking good for same table position, at least I'lll be there through thick and thin. Go back to hills central twat.

[lebron]

More deflection. Maybe its not just Adelaide media, but Crows supporters in general! Wasting my time! Be happy with 5-12 for the remainder of his stint! Enjoy!

5-12 bullodgs looking good for same table position, at least I'lll be there through thick and thin. Go back to hills central twat.

Constructive criticism, i like it! You are proving my point to a tee almighty hounds!

[JK]

I reckon Rutten could have taken one in the last quarter, although from memory he had an opponent in the contest and waiting on the deck in front of him ... Problem was his spoil didn't go to an advantageous position and Collingwood goaled anyway.

Yea, we can pull out individual moments but TBH Collingwood was all over Adelaide like an army of fat kids on 22 helpless tasty little cupcakes.

Punch, Mark, doesn't matter really, it was black and white everywhere. It needed to be a team effort to get back into the game, and Adelaide was rooted all over the ground.

Sorry mate, but I'd say that individual moments most certainly matter .. If you take the attitude that they don't, then the players won't ever take the right options in future situations.

As I'd said previously, my discussing a pet hate wasn't solely related to this game yesterday because it happens all the time, it's just something in footy that I don't understand (particularly if that's the way so many modern footballers are instructed)

[mighty_tiger_79]

[Gingernuts]

I reckon Rutten could have taken one in the last quarter, although from memory he had an opponent in the contest and waiting on the deck in front of him ... Problem was his spoil didn't go to an advantageous position and Collingwood goaled anyway.

Yea, we can pull out individual moments but TBH Collingwood was all over Adelaide like an army of fat kids on 22 helpless tasty little cupcakes.

Punch, Mark, doesn't matter really, it was black and white everywhere. It needed to be a team effort to get back into the game, and Adelaide was rooted all over the ground.

Sorry mate, but I'd say that individual moments most certainly matter .. If you take the attitude that they don't, then the players won't ever take the right options in future situations.

As I'd said previously, my discussing a pet hate wasn't solely related to this game yesterday because it happens all the time, it's just something in footy that I don't understand (particularly if that's the way so many modern footballers are instructed)

Yep fair call. Wasn't having a go sorry - just suggesting that the Pies were irresistible in the last yesterday and it would've taken a succession of individual acts to stop the avalanche. As REB said, currently Adelaide just don't have enough players capable of such acts at the moment.

[JK]

I reckon Rutten could have taken one in the last quarter, although from memory he had an opponent in the contest and waiting on the deck in front of him ... Problem was his spoil didn't go to an advantageous position and Collingwood goaled anyway.

Yea, we can pull out individual moments but TBH Collingwood was all over Adelaide like an army of fat kids on 22 helpless tasty little cupcakes.

Punch, Mark, doesn't matter really, it was black and white everywhere. It needed to be a team effort to get back into the game, and Adelaide was rooted all over the ground.

Sorry mate, but I'd say that individual moments most certainly matter .. If you take the attitude that they don't, then the players won't ever take the right options in future situations.

As I'd said previously, my discussing a pet hate wasn't solely related to this game yesterday because it happens all the time, it's just something in footy that I don't understand (particularly if that's the way so many modern footballers are instructed)

Yep fair call. Wasn't having a go sorry - just suggesting that the Pies were irresistible in the last yesterday and it would've taken a succession of individual acts to stop the avalanche. As REB said, currently Adelaide just don't have enough players capable of such acts at the moment.

Na all good mate .. Actually thought when it was really on the line in the last quarter, Tippett actually got his hands to the ball a bit but just couldn't "clunk" them - Again not blaming him for the loss or anything, but I think he's good enough to take the next step and be unstoppable at times.