Such Is Life

[mypaddock]

I hope for his sake he does stay clean, but wouldn't surprise me if he is bankrupt and near death within 5 years.

It pretty clear he doesn't regret anything he's done, he still thinks it is ok. His smugness tells it all.

Sad thing is he's not the only one in the AFL system who does such things. Maybe not to such an extent, but i'd bet my bottom dollar there'd be at least 2 or 3 blokes on every AFL team list that use illicit drugs on a regular basis.
Anyone who goes out to pubs or nightclubs would know this. We've all seen or heard the stories...

[AFLflyer]

I dont condone what Ben has done at all but i do feel sorry for the bloke taking the complete wrath of drugs in football .... who are we kidding here dozens of them do it .. not to that extent maybe and we all know who they are.

If thats what they wanna do within control good luck to them its only to there own detriment .. No different to the swarm of Power and crows players ya see out on the P*** on a regular basis is it

is P*** booze or pills????

Ben Cousins is not an orphan- in football or away from football.
There are people from all walks of life who do what he did.
Ben let his partying (drugs) get in the way of his footy- no different to what many professionals, tradies or labourers do, & yes, if they go too far, it can cost them their job.
Drug addiction knows not whether your wealthy or poor.

People just seem mainly annoyed that a guy who has it all, is not living up to their expectations.
What started out as having some fun, ended up controlling him- he was guilty of wanting a good time all the time.
Ben has let himself & his family down first, & foremost- then as his life became more about partying than football, he let his team-mates down.
He needs help to get out & stay out of his destructive lifestyle, which it appears has happened.

Congratulations Ben Cousins on a wonderful career.

GREAT POSTS punk rooster - spot on!!

[Rik E Boy]

I hope for his sake he does stay clean, but wouldn't surprise me if he is bankrupt and near death within 5 years.

It pretty clear he doesn't regret anything he's done, he still thinks it is ok. His smugness tells it all.

I agree paddock, you are OTM.

regards,

REB

[OnSong]

I hope for his sake he does stay clean, but wouldn't surprise me if he is bankrupt and near death within 5 years.

It pretty clear he doesn't regret anything he's done, he still thinks it is ok. His smugness tells it all.

I agree paddock, you are OTM.

regards,

REB

Did you watch it REB?

[Rik E Boy]

I hope for his sake he does stay clean, but wouldn't surprise me if he is bankrupt and near death within 5 years.

It pretty clear he doesn't regret anything he's done, he still thinks it is ok. His smugness tells it all.

I agree paddock, you are OTM.

regards,

REB

Did you watch it REB?

Nope. What I expected was pretty much what paddock said above. He's cashing in because his career is over. I don't rate him as a social commentator of any standing and I know enough about drugs to tell my kids what's what.

regards,

REB

[OnSong]

I hope for his sake he does stay clean, but wouldn't surprise me if he is bankrupt and near death within 5 years.

It pretty clear he doesn't regret anything he's done, he still thinks it is ok. His smugness tells it all.

I agree paddock, you are OTM.

regards,

REB

Did you watch it REB?

Nope. What I expected was pretty much what paddock said above. He's cashing in because his career is over. I don't rate him as a social commentator of any standing and I know enough about drugs to tell my kids what's what.

regards,

REB

All good. Was thinking Flyer may have convinced you.

[Footy Smart]

I think people need to watch tonight's episode before you can really comment about the message he is trying to get across. I think you will find last night was purely the facts of his addiction and the events/reasons that led to his addiction. What i took from it was that he thought he was bullet proof and he could do what he liked and that consequences didnt apply to him because he was 'Ben Cousins'. Tonight will show how lvery ucky he was to be given a second chance and have support from his family/friends/richmond.

You will find the documentary will leave the overall message that yes you think you are bullet proof but the consequences of drug taking will catch up to you and you loose alot more than the'good times' you got from partying/drug taking.

To say he is still as smug if purely forming an opinon to suit your arguemnt that he is a loser wah wah. You can see the Ben Cousins playing for Richmond and drug free is totally different. He has a cheeky smirk yes (but you could see that in his childhood photos) which people mistake for arrogance, but his body language is totally different now to when he was at the height of his career/drug addiction.

You cant judge a person until you have either been in the same position and or know the full facts of what lead to the events. What you can judge is the way a person reacts/responds to a problem once they accept it. Ben has accepted his addiction he says "as a drug addict" a million times and he isnt shying away from the facts.

[Drop Bear]

I watched it last night, won't be watching Part 2 tonight.

[Footy Smart]

I hope for his sake he does stay clean, but wouldn't surprise me if he is bankrupt and near death within 5 years.

It pretty clear he doesn't regret anything he's done, he still thinks it is ok. His smugness tells it all.

I agree paddock, you are OTM.

regards,

REB

Did you watch it REB?

Nope. What I expected was pretty much what paddock said above. He's cashing in because his career is over. I don't rate him as a social commentator of any standing and I know enough about drugs to tell my kids what's what.

regards,

REB

How can you say he is purely cashing in when you havent seen the docco or seen the outcome/message he may or may not be trying get across?

[Dogwatcher]

If he has accepted he is an addict, I question whether he would be taking sleeping pills.
I didn't watch it but through his other media appearances in the past two years, of which there have been plenty, I see humility is still a lesson that he has not quite been learnt. He has the same rogue's charm that is exhibited by others who receive attention for doing drugs or being a 'Superstar Criminal' and which the media laps up because it makes good copy.
I make no other judgements on his personality than that.

[piccachu]

but i'd bet my bottom dollar there'd be at least 2 or 3 blokes on every AFL team list that use illicit drugs on a regular basis.

i would say at the bare minimum 10 players on each list are regular illicit drug users.
i know its wrong but its almost socially exceptable these days to take a couple of pills, im only 20 so im around these places eg night spots all the time and see it first hand, the problem is these AFL stars are getting offered this stuff for free by fans and so called friends.

[Media Park]

I watched it last night, won't be watching Part 2 tonight.

i will be watching it. definitely.

[AFLflyer]

I watched it last night, won't be watching Part 2 tonight.

why? it's not finished.

[Footy Smart]

If he has accepted he is an addict, I question whether he would be taking sleeping pills.
I didn't watch it but through his other media appearances in the past two years, of which there have been plenty, I see humility is still a lesson that he has not quite been learnt. He has the same rogue's charm that is exhibited by others who receive attention for doing drugs or being a 'Superstar Criminal' and which the media laps up because it makes good copy.
I make no other judgements on his personality than that.

Why does the doctor perscribe him sleeping pills? It is not as though he is taking them without the club doctor knowing. Damned if he does, Cant sleep if he doesnt

Who cares if he has some 'rogue's charm' about him, the improtant thing is that he is clean and that he continues to be clean and send the right message to the community about drug addiction.

As he said recently on TV, Drug addiction is what Mental Health was 15 years ago. Everyone knows its there but nothing/no one wants to do anything about it. Mental Health now gets plenty of public awareness and its services/funding is being increased. Drug addiction is still along way down the pecking order. Simply getting a few dogs to sniff pockets and get a slap on the wrist does nothing.

[AFLflyer]

i dont get why people are not watching this to make a point and others who claim their not interested. with all the RUBISH on tv, finally something interesting and inciteful comes on and people boycott it?
love my doccos though!

also, wait to you watch the show all the way through before you state your final opinion.. it's not finished!

[Dutchy]

Ill save my comments until Ive seen the whole thing tonight, the first part was always going to create more questions than answers, thats how TV works, they hook you for the second part.

People making comments now is like criticing a movie after only watching half of it...

[Booney]

Fell asleep just after 9.

Far too often when discussing his addiction I felt the smirk on his face did no justice to the story he was trying to relay. Too many occasions he justified his drug use by coutering it with sound on field performances. Perhaps I missed his message but thats how I viewed it.

I missed part of Part 1 and I dont think I'll bother with part 2. Especially if it is twice as long. Mrs.Boon has recorded the two and we will decide if we sit with Junior Boon ( 14 ) and watch it together. I doubt it.

Dutchy, Part 2 only captivates you if Part 1 is worthy.

[Psyber]

He said he never took drugs on game day or the day before.
"(Performance enhancing drug taking) goes against everything I believe in as a sportsman," he said.
Cousins reveals he took cocaine, ice, amphetamines and prescription drugs.
He said drugs were his "ultimate reward" after training hard for football.

Cocaine, amphetamines, and "Ice" are all stimulants, and cocaine is an analgesic, so this doesn't reconcile with his claim "(Performance enhancing drug taking) goes against everything I believe in as a sportsman,".
And working hard at training, or anything else, doesn't really justify this type of "reward".
[I recognise he could have been misquoted.]

[A Mum]

I could see the looks on 'A Dads' face as he watched last night too Booney - I could tell he was thinking "Hmm wonder whether A Son should really be watching this". Am still thinking it's tonights episode that will hopefully 'hit home' to those young ones watching about it's not a good thing.

Will watch and see.

PS: Not sure if this comment makes sense, but I don't think I'm looking at it as 'Ben Cousins' as such - I'm looking at it as 'this could happen to you' - parent view.

[Footy Smart]

Fell asleep just after 9.

Far too often when discussing his addiction I felt the smirk on his face did no justice to the story he was trying to relay. Too many occasions he justified his drug use by coutering it with sound on field performances. Perhaps I missed his message but thats how I viewed it.

I missed part of Part 1 and I dont think I'll bother with part 2. Especially if it is twice as long. Mrs.Boon has recorded the two and we will decide if we sit with Junior Boon ( 14 ) and watch it together. I doubt it.

Dutchy, Part 2 only captivates you if Part 1 is worthy.

Thats exactly what he was trying to get across, he was justifying his drug taking as his form on the field was great. His justifications as a drug addict was that he could train hard as hell, play well and reward himself with drugs and no ill effect would result. He is purely stating what his thought process was and while it worked for a while and he thought everything was fine and great it was inevitably fraut with danger.

I think cloesed minds have clouded some peoples identification of facts and points he is trying to get across in the docco. Although i do think its good you watched the forst 10 mins booney