Round 4 v Carlton

[Booney]

Regardless of results from here on in the real heat must be placed on Adelaide's list managment decisions at the end of 09.

The retention of McLeod ( who appears to be paving a way to injury free retirement ) Goodwin ( who tries as he always has but seems to be needed everywhere ) Burton ( who will have glimpses of brilliance, as he can ) Edwards ( who is now running on the spot )and Hentschel ( who must be admired for coming back from where he has but you cant pick guys on admiration alone ) seriously needs to be questioned.

As Connie says above. McLeod,Edwards,Goodwin and Burton gone at years end along with Doughty,Hentschel and you would think Griffen. That's at least 7 players and over 1200 games experience to be shed in the draft many people suspect will be the weakest in many years after the GC17 take who they want.

Last years decisions will put Adelaide back for another 5 years now IMO.

[Psyber]

Add to the above the fact that both Rutten and Bock seem to have recurring injuries.
And there must be more going on with Stevens than just the usual after effects of a concussion after this long - usually anything serious shows up quickly or the person is fine in a short time.

[Punk Rooster]

Regardless of results from here on in the real heat must be placed on Adelaide's list managment decisions at the end of 09.

The retention of McLeod ( who appears to be paving a way to injury free retirement ) Goodwin ( who tries as he always has but seems to be needed everywhere ) Burton ( who will have glimpses of brilliance, as he can ) Edwards ( who is now running on the spot )and Hentschel ( who must be admired for coming back from where he has but you cant pick guys on admiration alone ) seriously needs to be questioned.

As Connie says above. McLeod,Edwards,Goodwin and Burton gone at years end along with Doughty,Hentschel and you would think Griffen. That's at least 7 players and over 1200 games experience to be shed in the draft many people suspect will be the weakest in many years after the GC17 take who they want.

Last years decisions will put Adelaide back for another 5 years now IMO.

what type of impact will this (along with GC17) have on SANFL playing stocks?
Potentially, that could have an extra 40 of the states top footballing talent exiting, on top of what is normally drained...

[Gingernuts]

Some great writing by Jesper Fjeldstad in the Sunday Mail today. Both is match report and his 'comment' on pg 46 (don't think they've put it online yet otherwise I'd post a link). Right on the money.

[Rik E Boy]

Some great writing by Jesper Fjeldstad in the Sunday Mail today. Both is match report and his 'comment' on pg 46 (don't think they've put it online yet otherwise I'd post a link). Right on the money.

You picked a bloody good year to go OS Gingernuts. You are now where my mob was back in 1999. ENJOY!

regards,

REB

[Gingernuts]

Some great writing by Jesper Fjeldstad in the Sunday Mail today. Both is match report and his 'comment' on pg 46 (don't think they've put it online yet otherwise I'd post a link). Right on the money.

You picked a bloody good year to go OS Gingernuts. You are now where my mob was back in 1999. ENJOY!

regards,

REB

I know. To think I was worried that I'd be missing some decent footy. Pfft.

[Rik E Boy]

I don't think you controlled as much of yesterday's game as you think. The latter part of the first quarter and about half of the last. The third quarter was shocking by both sides. You are in trouble if you make Carlton look good because they are shithouse.

regards,

REB

[Gingernuts]

I don't think you controlled as much of yesterday's game as you think. The latter part of the first quarter and about half of the last. The third quarter was shocking by both sides. You are in trouble if you make Carlton look good because they are shithouse.

regards,

REB

True, but my point was more that if we actually would've kicked straight we could've built some momentum from those periods, what we ended up with was zero return for effort. Already low confidence sinks even lower = result we ended up with.

[Whitelinefever]

Regarding comments regarding Petrenko being a gutsy player,not wanting to be too hard on the guy,but if anyone watched Dangerfield getting crunched by 3 demons last week,watch his effort again,He got tackled by 2 ,Petrenko sat 2 metres away sitting there like a stunned mullet,and watched the 3rd come in and really sink him down.
just sat there like a stunned mullet,let Dangerfield get poleaxed,and alsoRiley sat there and watched as well.
No sheperd,no help for their mate,no reminstration...nothing.
Its all well and good learning how to cover a zone,run like the wind,get heart rate monitors strappen on and gps ect that say you covered 16ks,big deal,how about down crowland they get back to doing the hard things like protecting your team mates being fierce at the contest,these things are non existent at the moment and seem to be a fair bit of the problem.
I watched the 1985 grand final on footy flashbacks this morning and it made the garbage witnessed crows/carlton look like nancy garbage,sure enough it wasnt as quick ect,but the hard basics were there which was actually entertainig in itself.

[NFC]

Plenty of flack is being copped by Burton, Tippett, and Walker up forward, but IMO one of the biggest let-downs has been Porplyzia. He looks slow and dis-interested. Knights been terrible too, but is obviously under-done.

Maric and Mackay our best 2 players the last fortnight, and Goodwin has showed that he will still put his body in harms way - unlike a certain other bloke of a similar vintage.

Knights was one of our best yesterday.

[Felch]

Plenty of flack is being copped by Burton, Tippett, and Walker up forward, but IMO one of the biggest let-downs has been Porplyzia. He looks slow and dis-interested. Knights been terrible too, but is obviously under-done.

Maric and Mackay our best 2 players the last fortnight, and Goodwin has showed that he will still put his body in harms way - unlike a certain other bloke of a similar vintage.

Knights was one of our best yesterday.

When it was all over. He fumbled and looked out-of-sorts when the heat was on. As i said though, he is underdone.

[White Line Fever]

I'm seriously thinking about jumping onboard the Gold Coast

[The Dark Knight]

I would send Walker back to Norwood, he riminds me of that Mark Williams from Essendon.... a complete show pony

Yep good call, he hasn't done anything this year. But if he goes back to norwood he'll kick a bag and then come back up and continue to do nothing. so the crows should let him stay in the sanfl for a while and let him gain some form and confidence and then when he's ready bring him back.

[Psyber]

I would send Walker back to Norwood, he riminds me of that Mark Williams from Essendon.... a complete show pony

Yep good call, he hasn't done anything this year. But if he goes back to norwood he'll kick a bag and then come back up and continue to do nothing. so the crows should let him stay in the sanfl for a while and let him gain some form and confidence and then when he's ready bring him back.

Watching him, on TV admittedly, I get the impression he is used to being the go to player and waits for it to happen, and is also not used to having to give it off and hesitates too long.
He has potential, but has a lot to learn at this level, and I suspect is not yet earning his place.
But I think he'll stay in because of the injury list.

[JK]

I would send Walker back to Norwood, he riminds me of that Mark Williams from Essendon.... a complete show pony

Yep good call, he hasn't done anything this year. But if he goes back to norwood he'll kick a bag and then come back up and continue to do nothing. so the crows should let him stay in the sanfl for a while and let him gain some form and confidence and then when he's ready bring him back.

Watching him, on TV admittedly, I get the impression he is used to being the go to player and waits for it to happen, and is also not used to having to give it off and hesitates too long.
He has potential, but has a lot to learn at this level, and I suspect is not yet earning his place.
But I think he'll stay in because of the injury list.

Walker is clearly not adjusting to the AFL system in the timeframe that would have been hoped for ... He looks slow, limited in gut running, struggles to take a contested mark and not judging the pace of the game - No doubt his confidence would be well down like many Crows and that's always a barrier on output.

I think IF he's to make it at this level (and that is still a big if at this stage), given the development he's had to undertake and still has to undertake, his best is a couple of years away still, and dependent upon his role.

I can really only see him having a chance to succeed if he's used primarily between the goalsquare and 70 metres out, but to pay your way in a role like that you would need an output that's Fevola-like in this day and age of required versatility.