AFL drugs charge

[Bum Crack]

Now we'll get a 10000 word essay on the life and times of Mr T which he read somewhere

[Rik E Boy]

Now we'll get a 10000 word essay on the life and times of Mr T which he read somewhere

I pity the fool who doesn't like...............................................................he.

regards,

REB

[Psyber]

You ask anyone between 18 and 25 if they know people who take drugs, socialise where drugs are available, or have tried drugs and I bet the majority say yes. You have a habit of quoting all your jibber jabber from things you read. Maybe actually get out there in the real world yourself and take a look around. Obviously, you will be very surprised. Is this large society of people you say that don't use drugs, in the age bracket of these AFL footballers? I doubt very much.

I'd accept your statements about the 18 to 25 age group are substantially true though not universal.
However, that age group is a narrow section of society as a whole, and the studies published in the journals use a broader perspective than just that of the rebellious kiddies.
Widespread use in that sub-group doesn't make it normal behaviour, statistically, in society as a whole, let alone good or acceptable...
When I lived in Bowden until I was 12, nearly all the kids over 8 carried knives - but that wasn't universal there, or all over Adelaide either.

I admit I haven't been to hotel in years except to dinners and wedding receptions at the posh end of town.
IIRC the last time was when I went into the Port Dock with a mate who lived at Rosewater, for a Preacher's, some time in 2003.

[Psyber]

Now we'll get a 10000 word essay on the life and times of Mr T which he read somewhere

Nup. I know nothing about Mr T and have no interest in finding out.
I'm reading a translation of an 11th century history of the life of the 9th century Anglo-Saxon king, Alfred the Great, at the moment.
It was allegedly written by a monk named Asser, but there is debate about whether he was the real author.

[HH3]

Now we'll get a 10000 word essay on the life and times of Mr T which he read somewhere

Nup. I know nothing about Mr T and have no interest in finding out.
I'm reading a translation of a 11th century history of the life of the 9th century Anglo-Saxon king, Alfred the Great, at the moment.
It was allegedly written by a monk named Asser, but there is debate about whether he was the real author.

Hey me too...what are the odds...

[Bum Crack]

You ask anyone between 18 and 25 if they know people who take drugs, socialise where drugs are available, or have tried drugs and I bet the majority say yes. You have a habit of quoting all your jibber jabber from things you read. Maybe actually get out there in the real world yourself and take a look around. Obviously, you will be very surprised. Is this large society of people you say that don't use drugs, in the age bracket of these AFL footballers? I doubt very much.

I'd accept your statements about the 18 to 25 age group are substantially true though not universal.
However, that age group is a narrow section of society as a whole, and the studies published in the journals use a broader perspective than just that of the rebellious kiddies.
Widespread use in that sub-group doesn't make it normal behaviour, statistically, in society as a whole, let alone good or acceptable...
When I was an 8 year old in Bowden, nearly all the kids carried knives - but that wasn't universal there, or all over Adelaide either.

I admit I haven't been to hotel in years except to dinners and wedding receptions at the posh end of town.
IIRC the last time was I went into the Port Dock with a mate who lived at Rosewater, for a Preacher's, some time in 2003.

When we are talking about druge use, this is the age bracket we are referring to when we say it is prevelant. I'm not going to refer to it when talking of 60 year old people (and you know that too). How many AFL players do you think do the majority of their socialising with the mature aged set??? Bugger all. It's all well and good to say drugs aren't everywhere, which probably is the case, if you are referring to every single social set. At the end of the day though, the social groups that these players, and people their age group in general get around, are not the mature age set etc, who are generally not into the drug scene.

[Bum Crack]

And I'm not saying drugs are good or acceptable either. I'm just pointing out that drugs are everywhere when it comes to the majority of social groups that people in the 18-30 age bracket are involved with.

[OnSong]

And I'm not saying drugs are good or acceptable either. I'm just pointing out that drugs are everywhere when it comes to the majority of social groups that people in the 18-30 age bracket are involved with.

Maybe just in the groups you hang out with hey BC?

[Psyber]

When we are talking about druge use, this is the age bracket we are referring to when we say it is prevelant. I'm not going to refer to it when talking of 60 year old people (and you know that too). How many AFL players do you think do the majority of their socialising with the mature aged set??? Bugger all. It's all well and good to say drugs aren't everywhere, which probably is the case, if you are referring to every single social set. At the end of the day though, the social groups that these players, and people their age group in general get around, are not the mature age set etc, who are generally not into the drug scene.

True enough, yet the older set of today [55+] were the youth of the 1970s when drug use did seem to be more universal than today, but somehow less destructive - perhaps it was the choice of drug - or perhaps the "free love" ideal.. In that era, I didn't use drugs, but I did know a few among the professional set, who dabbled with LSD, Psilocybin, and mushrooms.

From neolithic days until fairly recently, the younger set of the tribe and society were more obliged to mingle with their seniors who had been there, seen or done that, and seen the folly of it.
Perhaps it would be good for them if they still did...

[Bum Crack]

And I'm not saying drugs are good or acceptable either. I'm just pointing out that drugs are everywhere when it comes to the majority of social groups that people in the 18-30 age bracket are involved with.

Maybe just in the groups you hang out with hey BC?

It's definately around as I'm sure it is with other people. that doesn't mean that I take drugs though.

[OnSong]

I didn't say that. The way you talk about it though, it's like you think of it as an Underbelly.

[Rik E Boy]

True enough, yet the older set of today [55+] were the youth of the 1970s when drug use did seem to be more universal than today,

Was that stat in your book about Alfred the Great?

regards,

REB

[Bum Crack]

I didn't say that. The way you talk about it though, it's like you think of it as an Underbelly.

Na, not at all. Just saying it's out there and people that think it isn't, have no idea. Quite simple really.

[A Mum]

Oh they're/it's out there for sure BC.

I know my son (19) went out to 'town' with his best friend about 6 months ago and met up with some old high school 'friends' and was absolutely shocked at who and how many were taking 'party' drugs. And when he told me/who they were I was shocked too. I can only be thankful that he is strong enough not to fold to 'peer' pressure.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Drugs aren't everywhere.
There are significantly large sections of society where nobody uses them at all. and nobody drinks till they are drunk every Friday and Saturday night.
It just so happens that sports "stars" tend not to live in that environment, having embraced their "jock" life style early.
Alcohol abuse, smoking cigarettes, drug use, and excessive gambling tend to go together, and form part of a particular social sub-set.
The correlations show up in studies of addictive behaviour patterns published in medical journals.
[Though stray members of that sub-set do occasionally pop up in all walks of life.]

Someone needs to get out more.

[OnSong]

Oh they're/it's out there for sure BC.

I know my son (19) went out to 'town' with his best friend about 6 months ago and met up with some old high school 'friends' and was absolutely shocked at who and how many were taking 'party' drugs. And when he told me/who they were I was shocked too. I can only be thankful that he is strong enough not to fold to 'peer' pressure.

I don't believe it. A sensible teenager. Tell us your secret!!

[Rik E Boy]

Oh they're/it's out there for sure BC.

I know my son (19) went out to 'town' with his best friend about 6 months ago and met up with some old high school 'friends' and was absolutely shocked at who and how many were taking 'party' drugs. And when he told me/who they were I was shocked too. I can only be thankful that he is strong enough not to fold to 'peer' pressure.

I don't believe it. A sensible teenager. Tell us your secret!!

regards,

REB

[A Mum]

Love it REB - that could be my new avatar

Sensible in relation to taking drugs - less sensible in relation to consuming alcohol unfortunately.
Although in saying that still sensible in the fact that he would never drink and drive etc.
Just be a silly goose and worry his mother endlessly - hoping he hasn't consumed too much alcohol,
to the effect of where he thinks he's superman and can jump off a roof and fly...lol.

[Footy Smart]

Oh they're/it's out there for sure BC.

I know my son (19) went out to 'town' with his best friend about 6 months ago and met up with some old high school 'friends' and was absolutely shocked at who and how many were taking 'party' drugs. And when he told me/who they were I was shocked too. I can only be thankful that he is strong enough not to fold to 'peer' pressure.

I fit between the 19-25 age bracket and have a few more years in it and i know a wide range of people from all walks of life through groups of friends, sporting clubs and different schools and drugs these days are everywhere and excepted to an extent.

It is alot cheaper (20 - 30 bucks) for a pill than 8 bucks a drink...... Also experienced drug takers often help there mates who are inexpereinced drug takers when they first start! AFL player(for example) have the funds to allow them to buy cocaine which is very expensive, but is also often the cleanest and hardest to detect as its effects are short and clears from your body quickly. AFL players that play on a Friday night will go out after a game have a few lines of Coke, it is also hard to detect when looking at a person on it/similar to effects of alcohol and by the time they get to the club on Monday they are in the clear.

Just because a player plays AFL or whatever in society it is a large problem. If i was arrested for a similar offence i would not loose my job, no one would know other than who i told or saw it happen! why should Stokes be sacked? whats good for 1 is good for all IMO. If he doesnt learn his lesson this time then goodbye Matthew and any other player for that matter

[Footy Smart]

to the effect of where he thinks he's superman and can jump off a roof and fly...lol

Weve all done that once in our lives after a solid session on the cans....