The truth about the Power

[NO-MERCY]

I'm so f****** sick of hearing this s***t argument. Port made the GF because they were one of the best 2 teams - PERIOD. The other teams didn't make the GF because they weren't bloody good enough. Yes Port got thumped, but they were clearly the next best placed side to be competing in the GF.[/quote]

Either way Port got there and full credit to them but when they did get there they were exposed in contested footy, and badly too. You don't think it's an issue?[/quote]

Yes it's an issue. Port relies on fitness and pace and have obviously been found out.

My problem is with idiots saying Port didn't deserve to be in the GF last year and that they weren't one of the 2 best teams last year - they were.[/quote]

If anyone else deserved to be in the GF last year they would of been there but they wern't, Port & Geelong were the 2 best teams & Geelong showed why they were the best.
Port just proved against Sydney nothings changed, they still lack :HEART .
Unfortunately for Port supporters i think the Crows will belt you this week & i dislike the Crows.

[Macca19]

You give no reasoning for your laughter. So Adelaide isn't a tough, big-bodied side? It's okay for Westhoff to be skinny as a ****ing rake because he's not in the ruck? Tippett isn't a strongly built player who is streets ahead of Westhoff physically? Porplyzia isn't a tough in-and-under player? Vince doesn't get in the packs and extract the contested ball? Your responses contain nothing to confirm or deny what I'm saying, hence they are a joke.

And where has the big bodies gotten Adelaide over the past decade? Theyve always had big bodied players and its gotten you to how many Grand Finals this decade? Zero. You also have to have talent.

Tippett is much bigger than Westhoff. Tippett was widely touted as a first round pick and was picked at pick 30. Westhoff was pick 72 or something and was never a guarantee to get drafted. Shouldnt even be compared. Even so, Tippett still has a long way to go to prove anything.

[Macca19]

You state that Port gets "monstered" by the physical sides like Geelong, Sydney and Adelaide yet you expect Port to defeat the crows next showdown ?

Most of you imply that there is no problem with your side's ability to play hard, contested football. You are the supporters so you must know your side better than me, surely the Power will easily account for an inexperienced Adelaide side then? Are you confident? All I know is, assuming there is no issue in this area, I fully expect Port to wipe the Crows quite easily.

Inexperienced my arse.

You had 2151 games of experience out there on Saturday, with 10 players having played 100 games.

Port had 1956 games of experience and 8 players with 100 games experience.

So...which team is the inexperienced one?

[Westsider]

You state that Port gets "monstered" by the physical sides like Geelong, Sydney and Adelaide yet you expect Port to defeat the crows next showdown ?

Most of you imply that there is no problem with your side's ability to play hard, contested football. You are the supporters so you must know your side better than me, surely the Power will easily account for an inexperienced Adelaide side then? Are you confident? All I know is, assuming there is no issue in this area, I fully expect Port to wipe the Crows quite easily.

Inexperienced my arse.

You had 2151 games of experience out there on Saturday, with 10 players having played 100 games.

Port had 1956 games of experience and 8 players with 100 games experience.

So...which team is the inexperienced one?

LOL LOL BANG!! *waits patiently for rebuttal* LMAO

[FD88]

You can't put an exact measurement on experience. Most of your squad experienced the pressure of a grand final last year, while none of our young players bar Symes have had that experience, and it's a priceless one to have. The Power should be able to respond to a pressure situation (which the Showdown most certainly is) better than the Crows since they have been exposed to far greater pressure before; Adelaide's stocks haven't which makes it a new experience for them.

Plus if you really want to look at numbers, you only have to look at the structure of the two sides to see that Port Adelaide has a clear experience advantage where it matters. In the ruck division, arguably the most important part of any squad, Adelaide had two ruckmen with 20 games' experience between them, one of which went off injured halfway through the game, and was a second gamer at that! This left Jon Griffin in his 18th game to compete against Cox and Seaby. Compare that to Port's ruck division: Brendon Lade 197 games, Dean Brogan 102, that's a fair gap there (without even looking at age). Then look at the main midfield mix used by both teams. For Port: Kane Cornes 142 games, Shaun Burgoyne 131 games, Dom Cassisi 109 games, David Rodan 92 games, Steven Salopek 65 games, Pearce 52 games, Travis Boak 15 games. For the Crows: Doughty 121 games, Thompson 111 games, van Berlo 55 games, Porplyzia 28 games, Symes 22 games, Vince 12 games, MacKay 2 games. As you can see there is a much better balance of experience in the Port Adelaide midfield with the Crows line up swayed towards inexperienced youth (I discarded Chad Cornes, Peter Burgoyne and Tyson Edwards here as iirc they weren't mainstays in the middle on the weekend). In that crucial midfield, including rucks, the advantage to Port Adelaide is so clear it isn't even funny.

Also if you truly believe that it's always the -best- sides that play off in the grand final you have rocks in your head. That is a foolish, misleading, narrow, simplistic view to take and you know it. The fact that Port Adelaide was in there last year prove this.

[evans01]

You can't put an exact measurement on experience. Most of your squad experienced the pressure of a grand final last year, while none of our young players bar Symes have had that experience, and it's a priceless one to have. The Power should be able to respond to a pressure situation (which the Showdown most certainly is) better than the Crows since they have been exposed to far greater pressure before; Adelaide's stocks haven't which makes it a new experience for them.

Also if you truly believe that it's always the -best- sides that play off in the grand final you have rocks in your head. That is a foolish, misleading, narrow, simplistic view to take and you know it. The fact that Port Adelaide was in there last year prove this.

would you like a shovel?, coz you need to dig yourself a bigger hole.....

[FD88]

You can't put an exact measurement on experience. Most of your squad experienced the pressure of a grand final last year, while none of our young players bar Symes have had that experience, and it's a priceless one to have. The Power should be able to respond to a pressure situation (which the Showdown most certainly is) better than the Crows since they have been exposed to far greater pressure before; Adelaide's stocks haven't which makes it a new experience for them.

Also if you truly believe that it's always the -best- sides that play off in the grand final you have rocks in your head. That is a foolish, misleading, narrow, simplistic view to take and you know it. The fact that Port Adelaide was in there last year prove this.

would you like a shovel?, coz you need to dig yourself a bigger hole.....

Agreed, still plenty more of you to bury in there.

[evans01]

You can't put an exact measurement on experience. Most of your squad experienced the pressure of a grand final last year, while none of our young players bar Symes have had that experience, and it's a priceless one to have. The Power should be able to respond to a pressure situation (which the Showdown most certainly is) better than the Crows since they have been exposed to far greater pressure before; Adelaide's stocks haven't which makes it a new experience for them.

Also if you truly believe that it's always the -best- sides that play off in the grand final you have rocks in your head. That is a foolish, misleading, narrow, simplistic view to take and you know it. The fact that Port Adelaide was in there last year prove this.

would you like a shovel?, coz you need to dig yourself a bigger hole.....

Agreed, still plenty more of you to bury in there.

actually have a backhoe complete with post hole digger, you can borrow that...

[tigersupporter]

its amazing that everyone here only answers FD88 with one liners.... Do you really know what he is on about? because it sounds like he has really touched a nerve with most of you......

[Dirko]

You can't put an exact measurement on experience. Most of your squad experienced the pressure of a grand final last year, while none of our young players bar Symes have had that experience, and it's a priceless one to have. The Power should be able to respond to a pressure situation (which the Showdown most certainly is) better than the Crows since they have been exposed to far greater pressure before; Adelaide's stocks haven't which makes it a new experience for them. BULLSHIT...If experience was the key then how did THIS crows side knock off the Eagles for the first time in a while

Plus if you really want to look at numbers, you only have to look at the structure of the two sides to see that Port Adelaide has a clear experience advantage where it matters. In the ruck division, arguably the most important part of any squad, Adelaide had two ruckmen with 20 games' experience between them, one of which went off injured halfway through the game, and was a second gamer at that! This left Jon Griffin in his 18th game to compete against Cox and Seaby. BULLSHIT...Why did Port lose to Geelong in round one based on this theory ? Geelongs two ruckmen both novices, yet Port got SMASHED in the clearances. Adelaide SMASHED West Coast in the clearances, so the experienced ruckmen had no effect at all. Ruck contests mean nothing unless you have the cattle to clear the ball.

Compare that to Port's ruck division: Brendon Lade 197 games, Dean Brogan 102, that's a fair gap there (without even looking at age). Then look at the main midfield mix used by both teams. For Port: Kane Cornes 142 games, Shaun Burgoyne 131 games, Dom Cassisi 109 games, David Rodan 92 games, Steven Salopek 65 games, Pearce 52 games, Travis Boak 15 games. For the Crows: Doughty 121 games, Thompson 111 games, van Berlo 55 games, Porplyzia 28 games, Symes 22 games, Vince 12 games, MacKay 2 games. As you can see there is a much better balance of experience in the Port Adelaide midfield with the Crows line up swayed towards inexperienced youth (I discarded Chad Cornes, Peter Burgoyne and Tyson Edwards here as iirc they weren't mainstays in the middle on the weekend). In that crucial midfield, including rucks, the advantage to Port Adelaide is so clear it isn't even funny. BULLSHIT...Clearances win games, you get the pill, you use it. Port cannot ATM win the clearances no matter how much experience they have. Adelaide can. Experience counts for **** all unless you get the ball.

Also if you truly believe that it's always the -best- sides that play off in the grand final you have rocks in your head. That is a foolish, misleading, narrow, simplistic view to take and you know it. The fact that Port Adelaide was in there last year prove this.

[Macca19]

BULLSHIT...Why did Port lose to Geelong in round one based on this theory ? Geelongs two ruckmen both novices, yet Port got SMASHED in the clearances. Adelaide SMASHED West Coast in the clearances, so the experienced ruckmen had no effect at all. Ruck contests mean nothing unless you have the cattle to clear the ball.

Actually West Coast thumped the Crows in the clearances. West Coast just broke down in the forward line.

[FD88]

SJABC, sounds to me like someone has just realised that I'm absolutely right. Why else would you resort to using the results of games as examples when I have clearly shown that BOTH your midfield and rucks are far better balanced and hence should enable the Power to win both the taps and the clearances to comfortably account for the Crows assuming they can play hard, contested footy? You know full well that Geelong beat Port because they had a major edge in the midfield with players that can actually win contested ball and so on.

And why else would you say Port cannot win the clearances?

[Macca19]

Also if you truly believe that it's always the -best- sides that play off in the grand final you have rocks in your head. That is a foolish, misleading, narrow, simplistic view to take and you know it. The fact that Port Adelaide was in there last year prove this.

No I dont always believe the best sides play off in the GF, the Crows failing to get there twice in a row proved that. In Ports case though they were the 2nd best team last year.

They finished 2nd on the ladder. They beat Geelong two weeks before the finals. They beat West Coast during the finals and thrashed them during the year. They thrashed the Kangaroos in the finals and beat them during the year. Thats the top 4 teams.

From the rest: We beat Collingwood during the year. We beat Hawthorn just before the finals. The only two finals sides we didnt beat during the year were Sydney and Adelaide who finished 7th and 8th.

Its easy to say 'Collingwood lost to Geelong by less' but its a very simplistic and false view to have. Geelong would have thrashed anyone on GF day.

[Dirko]

SJABC, sounds to me like someone has just realised that I'm absolutely right. Why else would you resort to using the results of games as examples when I have clearly shown that BOTH your midfield and rucks are far better balanced and hence should enable the Power to win both the taps and the clearances to comfortably account for the Crows assuming they can play hard, contested footy? You know full well that Geelong beat Port because they had a major edge in the midfield with players that can actually win contested ball and so on.

And why else would you say Port cannot win the clearances?

Your ? No not mine, don't follow Port sorry. I said that Geelong SMASHED Port in the clearances so not denying that at all. What I was saying was it does not matter how much experience you have. If you win the clearance you go along way to winning the game. Port are not and I predict that Adelaide will beat them in this regard.

Port cannot win the clearances as ATM they have not enough blokes willing to put the heads over the ball and go for the pill...

[rod_rooster]

SJABC, sounds to me like someone has just realised that I'm absolutely right. Why else would you resort to using the results of games as examples when I have clearly shown that BOTH your midfield and rucks are far better balanced and hence should enable the Power to win both the taps and the clearances to comfortably account for the Crows assuming they can play hard, contested footy? You know full well that Geelong beat Port because they had a major edge in the midfield with players that can actually win contested ball and so on.

And why else would you say Port cannot win the clearances?

Your ? No not mine, don't follow Port sorry. I said that Geelong SMASHED Port in the clearances so not denying that at all. What I was saying was it does not matter how much experience you have. If you win the clearance you go along way to winning the game. Port are not and I predict that Adelaide will beat them in this regard.

Port cannot win the clearances as ATM they have not enough blokes willing to put the heads over the ball and go for the pill...

How can you two be arguing about something you agree on?

[Dirko]

Cos it's fun

[Westsider]

Because his examples are ****** up. I understand what he is trying to say, but the examples he is using is completely wrong.

lmao

[FD88]

Because his examples are F***** up. I understand what he is trying to say, but the examples he is using is completely wrong.

lmao

So they're F***** up? Explain.

[smac]

SJABC, sounds to me like someone has just realised that I'm absolutely right. Why else would you resort to using the results of games as examples when I have clearly shown that BOTH your midfield and rucks are far better balanced and hence should enable the Power to win both the taps and the clearances to comfortably account for the Crows assuming they can play hard, contested footy? You know full well that Geelong beat Port because they had a major edge in the midfield with players that can actually win contested ball and so on.

And why else would you say Port cannot win the clearances?

Your ? No not mine, don't follow Port sorry. I said that Geelong SMASHED Port in the clearances so not denying that at all. What I was saying was it does not matter how much experience you have. If you win the clearance you go along way to winning the game. Port are not and I predict that Adelaide will beat them in this regard.

Port cannot win the clearances as ATM they have not enough blokes willing to put the heads over the ball and go for the pill...

And there you have it... Not even a Carlton supporter would claim to be a Port supporter. Did you have to toss a coin to work it out Jabber?

[Dirko]

And there you have it... Not even a Carlton supporter would claim to be a Port supporter. Did you have to toss a coin to work it out Jabber?

Yeah I tossed a coin, and it landed on it's side...I thought I barracked for Essendon then