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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby FD88 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:17 pm

Regardless of yet another heartbreaking result all Crows fans should stand proud; Rowey hit the nail on the head this morning when he said the Crows are possibly the most competitive unit in the AFL. After Johnson kicked that goal to put the dogs a couple of kicks up, 95%, nay quite possibly all other sides would have conceded the match. But not the Crows: they were desperate right to the end and STILL created the chance to snatch it. You have to hand it to them, their fighting spirit is quite outstanding and I am very proud of that as a supporter.

(I just wish we could WIN one of these close matches :oops: )
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby JK » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:23 pm

Booney wrote:More so,if Johnson was playing in the middle,sure,give Shirley the job to stop him,but Johnson playing out of the goal square? Kicks the 'Dogs last 3 goals.Really Craigy,it is moves like that which give the critics ammo.


Not an unreasonable call Millsn
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Westsider » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:26 pm

Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Just think, if the Crows had Huddo and Torney they probably would have won that game comfortably. :?


Add a few goals from Welsh,and take Shirley off Johnson,they win!

More so,if Johnson was playing in the middle,sure,give Shirley the job to stop him,but Johnson playing out of the goal square? Kicks the 'Dogs last 3 goals.Really Craigy,it is moves like that which give the critics ammo.


Craigy is great in almost every facet of coaching... except making decisions during game day. Shirley? LOL

Either Craigy's assistants are stupid, or he is just too pigheaded to listen to him. From what I have heard... its the pigheadedness. Flashbacks to Hawks vs Crows in the finals.

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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby JK » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:30 pm

I reckon the faith Craigy shows in his players has helped them achieve surprisingly greater heights in his time there, but naturally the downside is that sometimes players will have their colours lowered by opponents with greater class.

Everyone knows the Crows have limitations in their squad, and perhaps there wasn't much alternative than taking a punt with Shirley at that time?
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Wedgie » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:33 pm

FD88 wrote: the Crows are possibly the most competitive unit in the AFL.


I would have thought Geelong had been fairly competitive in the last 12 months. :?
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby BUZZ » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:37 pm

Wedgie wrote:
FD88 wrote: the Crows are possibly the most competitive unit in the AFL.


I would have thought Geelong had been fairly competitive in the last 12 months. :?

September last year proved that :shock:
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby GWW » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:40 pm

Wedgie wrote:
FD88 wrote: the Crows are possibly the most competitive unit in the AFL.


I would have thought Geelong had been fairly competitive in the last 12 months. :?


I presume FD88 is saying that the Crows do more with their squad than what names on paper would indicate they should ie. playing above themselves, compared to Geelong who are clearly the best team in the league.

Not saying i agree with this, but i presume this is what is meant.
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Wedgie » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:44 pm

GWW wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
FD88 wrote: the Crows are possibly the most competitive unit in the AFL.


I would have thought Geelong had been fairly competitive in the last 12 months. :?


I presume FD88 is saying that the Crows do more with their squad than what names on paper would indicate they should ie. playing above themselves, compared to Geelong who are clearly the best team in the league.

Not saying i agree with this, but i presume this is what is meant.


I would have thought that winning a Grand Final by a record margin of nearly 20 goals that Geelong wouldn't have done a bad job?

Or is a Crows minor round loss equivilent to a Geelong premiership win by 20 goals "competitively"?

Geelong were about 16/1 to win the premiership last year and odds on them having the season they had (with all australians, vfl win, etc) would have been about 500/1. Surely that's playing above yourself a bit better than a team that's always around the middle of the ladder?

Stupid, absolutely stupid but I'd expect nothing less from Rowe. If anything Port are a hell of a lot more competitive and played above themselves in 2007.

Anyway, good luck to the Crows, hopefully young players like McLeod, Edwards and Goodwin can improve as they get older and help the Crows look a bit better on paper. Perhaps one day they'll get the money and facilities that North Melbourne, the Bulldogs, etc get to train with that they'd be so envious of and start to over perform. :roll:
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby BUZZ » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:44 pm

GWW wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
FD88 wrote: the Crows are possibly the most competitive unit in the AFL.


I would have thought Geelong had been fairly competitive in the last 12 months. :?


I presume FD88 is saying that the Crows do more with their squad than what names on paper would indicate they should ie. playing above themselves, compared to Geelong who are clearly the best team in the league.

Not saying i agree with this, but i presume this is what is meant.

True, the Saints have had one of the most decorated lists over the past few years but have yet to take home the ultimate....
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Westsider » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:53 pm

Isn't this 2008? And a crows vs bullsdogs thread?
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Wedgie » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:04 pm

Westsider wrote:Isn't this 2008? And a crows vs bullsdogs thread?


Dunno, but apparantley if it is the most competitve thing a club can do is lose to the Bulldogs and lose to St Kilda in consecutive games. :?
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby the joker » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:11 pm

Wedgie wrote:
GWW wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
FD88 wrote: the Crows are possibly the most competitive unit in the AFL.


I would have thought Geelong had been fairly competitive in the last 12 months. :?


I presume FD88 is saying that the Crows do more with their squad than what names on paper would indicate they should ie. playing above themselves, compared to Geelong who are clearly the best team in the league.

Not saying i agree with this, but i presume this is what is meant.


I would have thought that winning a Grand Final by a record margin of nearly 20 goals that Geelong wouldn't have done a bad job?

Or is a Crows minor round loss equivilent to a Geelong premiership win by 20 goals "competitively"?

Geelong were about 16/1 to win the premiership last year and odds on them having the season they had (with all australians, vfl win, etc) would have been about 500/1. Surely that's playing above yourself a bit better than a team that's always around the middle of the ladder?

Stupid, absolutely stupid but I'd expect nothing less from Rowe. If anything Port are a hell of a lot more competitive and played above themselves in 2007.

Anyway, good luck to the Crows, hopefully young players like McLeod, Edwards and Goodwin can improve as they get older and help the Crows look a bit better on paper. Perhaps one day they'll get the money and facilities that North Melbourne, the Bulldogs, etc get to train with that they'd be so envious of and start to over perform. :roll:
i think the comment is meant to be taken over the last few years. if you remember back to 06 Geelong had a few hefty losses. to teams like the hawks twice , collingwood and adelaide. and the crows have only had two losses over 5 goals since the start of the 05 season i think
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Rushby Hinds » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:13 pm

I heard Rowey's comments, and actually I think he made sense.

What he said was that the Crows are in the top 3 teams when it comes to creating a competition out of the playing group that they have, week in week out.

No team ever gets an easy win against them, and personally don't think that they have the greatest list of players (and haven't had for many years).
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Blue Boy » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:19 pm

All summer I was waiting and it only took till the first round Shirley in the back pocket with 300 game player Johnson - enough said Mummbles :?
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Rushby Hinds » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:24 pm

Blue Boy wrote:All summer I was waiting and it only took till the first round Shirley in the back pocket with 300 game player Johnson - enough said Mummbles :?



Certainly got a chuckle from the group of Dogs fans I was watching the game with.

But who was the wag who compared Nathan Bock to Simon Feast?
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Blue Boy » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:35 pm

Rushby Hinds wrote:
Blue Boy wrote:All summer I was waiting and it only took till the first round Shirley in the back pocket with 300 game player Johnson - enough said Mummbles :?





But who was the wag who compared Nathan Bock to Simon Feast?


Touche !!!

But I actually have a point of difference so to speak - I said on elimination day that Feasty would shank that kick and he did yet I backed Bock to kick the goal today !!!
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Dutchy » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:03 pm

Shirley you cant be serious, here is no Doughty there are some players just not up to AFL in the Cows team....
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Mickyj » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:11 pm

Dutchy wrote:Shirley you cant be serious, here is no Doughty there are some players just not up to AFL in the Cows team....


So Dutchy next week when the Eagles play North are you saying Shirley will line up in Eagles colours then ?
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Dutchy » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:19 pm

Mickyj wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Shirley you cant be serious, here is no Doughty there are some players just not up to AFL in the Cows team....


So Dutchy next week when the Eagles play North are you saying Shirley will line up in Eagles colours then ?


nah Mumbles loves him :roll:
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Re: Crows vs Western Bulldogs

Postby Dirko » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:44 pm

Good result today Doggies...You needed to win for a champ like Johno...he deserved nothing less... =D>
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