Trades/Drafts (Nov & PSD/Rookie) - 2015

[Jim05]

I rate Lobbe, would play him first Ruck every game.

So do I but not sure they can play all the talls together.
Cant afford to have the $$ boys missing out so its going to be a tough call

[Booney]

How many years does Lobbe have on his contract? Just thinking if 2016 plays out like we think it will, his value will be halved by the start of next trade period.

4 years. He signed a 4 year deal at the end of 2014 when he had 2015 already locked in.

[Lightning McQueen]

Have heard Lobbe was offered an amazing deal at Richmond and never even looked at taking it, nor was Port going to take the #11 pick.

Was never on the table. With the removal of the sub, his obvious leadership skills & with probable sanctions still hanging over the Essendon players Port weren't going to let him go & he didn't want to leave.

Pretty much in a nutshell.

The boy can obviously play, he showed that in 2014.

[Lightning McQueen]

I rate Lobbe, would play him first Ruck every game.

You would, being a cat supporter, your two tore him a new one last season.

[Booney]

WINNERS

COLLINGWOOD
IN: Jeremy Howe (Melbourne), Adam Treloar (GWS), James Aish (Brisbane)
OUT: Nathan Freeman (St Kilda), Ben Kennedy (Melbourne), Paul Seedsman (Adelaide)
DRAFT PICKS: 27, 66, 77, 83, 84, 101, 119
The Magpies picked up the best player not named Dangerfield in this trade period while also adding one of Melbourne’s five best players and a Lion who was the highest-rated player in the country as a 16-year-old.
It cost them first round picks this year and next but Nathan Buckley’s side will be a popular top eight selection after their work this week.

ESSENDON
IN: Matthew Leuenberger (Brisbane), Craig Bird (Sydney)
OUT: Jake Carlisle (St Kilda), Jonathan Giles (West Coast), Jake Melksham (Melbourne)
DRAFT PICKS: 4, 5, 24, 25, 57, 80, 98, 116
If they can keep Leuenberger on the field and get the former Brisbane ruckman anywhere near his best form the Bombers will have filled one of the two positions that have plagued them in recent seasons. Unfortunately the other — a key position forward to support Joe Daniher — remains vacant and is only heightened by the departure of Carlisle.
Bird is an underrated player who offers premiership experience and picks four and five allow John Worsfold to start building for the future.

GEELONG
IN: Patrick Dangerfield (Adelaide), Lachie Henderson (Carlton), Scott Selwood (West Coast), Zac Smith (Gold Coast)
OUT: Dean Gore (Adelaide), Steve Johnson, Dawson Simpson (GWS), Jarrad Jansen, Josh Walker (Brisbane)
DRAFT PICKS: 67, 85, 103, 121
The Cats made it clear they want their absence from the finals to be a one-year proposition by bringing in four experienced players at the sacrifice of any presence in the draft.
Dangerfield should have the same effect as Chris Judd and Gary Ablett did after their mid-career club switches while Henderson will boost the lowest-scoring attack in the top 12.

PORT ADELAIDE
IN: Charlie Dixon (Gold Coast), Jimmy Toumpas (Melbourne)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 32, 49, 86, 104, 122
The Power enjoyed their third successful trade period in a row — largely because they continue to be a destination club. Dixon will provide a seriously big target in the forward line and returning to SA may spark Toumpas’s career.
The Matthew Lobbe situation is worth reviewing next season. If he struggles to play it may have been better to attempt to flip him for another player or draft pick.

RICHMOND
IN: Jacob Townsend (GWS), Chris Yarran (Carlton)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 12, 52, 88, 106, 120, 124
The Tigers emphasised how close they felt they were to contending last season by pretty much focusing all their energy on securing Yarran. They finally got their man this afternoon but will he be enough to get them over the hump?

WEST COAST
IN: Jonathan Giles (Essendon), Lewis Jetta (Sydney), Jack Redden (Brisbane)
OUT: Matt Rosa (Gold Coast), Scott Selwood (Geelong), Callum Sinclair (Sydney)
DRAFT PICKS: 23, 31, 62, 75, 93, 111, 129
The Eagles look to have closed the gap on Hawthorn by adding Jetta and Redden, but exactly how much remains to be seen. Both are experienced, peak-age footballers who at their best will add quality to Adam Simpson’s side. None of the departures are significant.

WESTERN BULLDOGS
IN: Matt Suckling (Hawthorn)
OUT: Michael Talia (Sydney)
DRAFT PICKS: 20, 21, 30, 51, 87, 105, 123
Only one real piece of work for the Dogs’s footy department during the trade period but it wasn’t a bad one. Suckling may have missed out on a spot in Hawthorn’s starting 21 on Grand Final day but he’s an effective ball user who should mesh well with Luke Beveridge’s run-and-gun game.




LOSERS
ADELAIDE
IN: Paul Seedsman (Collingwood), Curtly Hampton (GWS), Dean Gore (Geelong), Troy Menzel (Carlton)
OUT: Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong), Sam Kerridge (Carlton)
DRAFT PICKS: 9, 13, 71, 89, 107, 125
Couldn’t have recovered much better from losing one of the best three players in the competition but in US monetary terms they’ve replaced a $1 coin (Dangerfield) with three quarters (Seedsman, Hampton, Menzel) and a dime (Gore).
The early draft picks are great given the lack of first round talent this club has secured in recent years but this trade period likely keeps the Crows a year or two away from legitimately contending.

BRISBANE
IN: Jarrad Jansen, Josh Walker (Geelong), Ryan Bastinac (North Melbourne), Tom Bell (Carlton)
OUT: Matthew Leuenberger (Essendon), Jack Redden (West Coast), James Aish (Collingwood)
DRAFT PICKS: 2, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 78, 96, 114,
After the success of last year’s trade period where the Lions secured Dayne Beams and Allen Christensen they returned to normal this year by farewelling three players they would have preferred to keep.
Walker gives them something to kick to in attack next season and Bell and Bastinac will play but they need to nail the second pick in the draft.

CARLTON
IN: Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner (GWS), Sam Kerridge (Adelaide)
OUT: Tom Bell (Brisbane), Lachie Henderson (Geelong), Troy Menzel (Adelaide), Chris Yarran (Richmond)
DRAFT PICKS: 1, 8, 11, 19, 59, 60, 113
Lost three top 10 players at the club (Yarran, Bell, Henderson) and another who had the potential to be one next season (Menzel). Despite adding four Giants they missed out on the one they really wanted (Adam Tomlinson) and Kerridge was never able to secure a regular spot in Adelaide.
It’s going to be a long rebuild at the Blues but with four picks inside the top 20 — including pick one — they’re in position to start.

GOLD COAST
IN: Matt Rosa (West Coast), Daniel Currie (North Melbourne)
OUT: Harley Bennell (Fremantle), Charlie Dixon (Port Adelaide), Zac Smith (Geelong)
DRAFT PICKS: 6, 16, 29, 35, 61, 79, 97, 115
You can argue the Suns didn’t need to do a lot during this trade period with ‘recruits’ like Gary Ablett, Jaeger O’Meara, Dion Prestia and David Swallow to return from injury next season.
But losing Dixon and Bennell — at least from a talent and return on investment point of view — is a blow.

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
IN: Steve Johnson, Dawson Simpson (Geelong)
OUT: Adam Treloar (Collingwood), Curtly Hampton (Adelaide), Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner (Carlton), Jacob Townsend (Richmond), Tomas Bugg (Melbourne)
DRAFT PICKS: 10, 34, 43, 53, 55, 58, 63, 64, 65, 70, 95, 102
It's hard to make sense of what the Giants have done by clearing out such a large number of players and only adding Johnson and Simpson.
Treloar’s departure hurts because at this point he was arguably the best homegrown player in Giants’ history. Stevie J has a bit left in the tank but might not be enough to push GWS into the eight.

HAWTHORN
IN: Jack Fitzpatrick (Melbourne)
OUT: Jed Anderson (North Melbourne), Matt Suckling (Western Bulldogs)
DRAFT PICKS: 15, 18, 48, 76, 112, 130
The Hawks traded their way to a second first round draft pick but gave up a youngster who showed signs of getting over the hump last season (Anderson) and a regular member of their 22 (Suckling). No great damage done here though.

SYDNEY
IN: Callum Sinclair (West Coast), Michael Talia (Western Bulldogs)
OUT: Craig Bird (Essendon), Lewis Jetta (West Coast)
DRAFT PICKS: 33, 36, 37, 44, 54, 69, 72, 90, 108, 126
Like the Giants, the Swans have stockpiled draft picks between 30 and 70 to use on their academy players.
Sinclair replaces retired ruckman Mike Pyke but will need to improve his game to prevent this department continuing to be a weakness against the Fremantles and North Melbournes of the competition.
Bird and Jetta didn’t offer much in 2015 but it wouldn’t surprise to see them re-emerge as strong contributors at their new clubs.


BREAKING EVEN
FREMANTLE
IN: Harley Bennell (Gold Coast)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 22, 56, 74, 92, 110, 128
The jury is still out on Fremantle’s major piece of business because the Dockers don’t have a 100 per cent success rate with mature-age recruits (see: Sylvia, Colin and Gumbleton, Scott). But Bennell’s talent is undeniable and if he can stay out of trouble he allows Ross Lyon to reload for another Grand Final tilt.
The failure to work a deal with GWS for Cam McCarthy prevents this trade period from being an undeniable success.

ST KILDA
IN: Jake Carlisle (Essendon), Nathan Freeman (Collingwood)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 14, 45, 68, 81, 99, 117
Looked like a tidy week of work for the Saints recruiting team until A Current Affair got involved. That Jake Carlisle video certainly took a lot of the gloss off his signing but perhaps it will make him even more determined to make a fist of things.

MELBOURNE
IN: Jake Melksham (Essendon), Ben Kennedy (Collingwood), Tomas Bugg (GWS)
OUT: Jeremy Howe (Collingwood), Jimmy Toumpas (Port Adelaide), Jack Fitzpatrick (Hawthorn)
DRAFT PICKS: 3, 7, 46, 50, 82, 94, 100, 118
In terms of the players they’ve added and subtracted there wasn’t a lot lost or gain by Melbourne. Howe is arguably a better player than Melksham but the Demons can add talent after trading their way into two top seven draft picks.

NORTH MELBOURNE
IN: Jed Anderson (Hawthorn)
OUT: Daniel Currie (Gold Coast), Ryan Bastinac (Brisbane)
DRAFT PICKS: 17, 26, 28, 47, 73, 91, 109, 127
Added another contributor in the midfield in Anderson who importantly has youth on his side. In essence he’s almost a swap for Bastinac because the Kangaroos regained the first round selection they handed to Hawthorn in their trade with the Lions.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-tr ... 7578519929 - By Jai Bednall

[woodublieve12]

How are the swans losers? They got exactly what they wanted. And did it still under restrictions, I'll call that a win

[whufc]

I'm not so sure Port are winners

Picked up two players who are 'potentially' going to be great but both have serious question marks on them

For that reward they don't enter the draft until pick 32, in a very shallow draft

[stan]

Booney I'm assuming it was a copy and paste from yourself and Jai Bednall was the author?

Regardless I feel Adelaide was a breakeven if not a winner. They were always going to lose there best player and whilst they have not replaced him exactly they added something to the squad in which they lack, and that's outside run. While Gore is unknown at this stage Hampton and Seedsmen mean that Smith can be release from half back and enter more of the midfield.

Also they have 2 first round picks as well to replenish the list. In my opinion they are a breakeven at least.

[stan]

How are the swans losers? They got exactly what they wanted. And did it still under restrictions, I'll call that a win

I would agree with you there, set to land Mills as well from the Academy. One of the massive advantages the swans and other sides have is that although they have late first round picks, getting Heeney and then probably Mills means they have effectively landed 2 top 10 picks with our really having top 10 picks.

[GWW]

I'm not so sure Port are winners

Picked up two players who are 'potentially' going to be great but both have serious question marks on them

For that reward they don't enter the draft until pick 32, in a very shallow draft

Whether Port are winners or not will be decided upon whether Dixon can stay fit and average 40 goals a season for the next 3 or 4 years.

It was a risk that the club had to take, given lack of success in drafting/developing a key forward in the past.

The list is in a reasonable state at the moment, so missing out on a first round pick, isn't the end of the world, especially as it could result in another Moore/Butcher selection anyway.

[Booney]

Booney I'm assuming it was a copy and paste from yourself and Jai Bednall was the author?

Regardless I feel Adelaide was a breakeven if not a winner. They were always going to lose there best player and whilst they have not replaced him exactly they added something to the squad in which they lack, and that's outside run. While Gore is unknown at this stage Hampton and Seedsmen mean that Smith can be release from half back and enter more of the midfield.

Also they have 2 first round picks as well to replenish the list. In my opinion they are a breakeven at least.

Correct. The link to the article is in my post.

[Turbo]

WINNERS

COLLINGWOOD
IN: Jeremy Howe (Melbourne), Adam Treloar (GWS), James Aish (Brisbane)
OUT: Nathan Freeman (St Kilda), Ben Kennedy (Melbourne), Paul Seedsman (Adelaide)
DRAFT PICKS: 27, 66, 77, 83, 84, 101, 119
The Magpies picked up the best player not named Dangerfield in this trade period while also adding one of Melbourne’s five best players and a Lion who was the highest-rated player in the country as a 16-year-old.
It cost them first round picks this year and next but Nathan Buckley’s side will be a popular top eight selection after their work this week.

ESSENDON
IN: Matthew Leuenberger (Brisbane), Craig Bird (Sydney)
OUT: Jake Carlisle (St Kilda), Jonathan Giles (West Coast), Jake Melksham (Melbourne)
DRAFT PICKS: 4, 5, 24, 25, 57, 80, 98, 116
If they can keep Leuenberger on the field and get the former Brisbane ruckman anywhere near his best form the Bombers will have filled one of the two positions that have plagued them in recent seasons. Unfortunately the other — a key position forward to support Joe Daniher — remains vacant and is only heightened by the departure of Carlisle.
Bird is an underrated player who offers premiership experience and picks four and five allow John Worsfold to start building for the future.

GEELONG
IN: Patrick Dangerfield (Adelaide), Lachie Henderson (Carlton), Scott Selwood (West Coast), Zac Smith (Gold Coast)
OUT: Dean Gore (Adelaide), Steve Johnson, Dawson Simpson (GWS), Jarrad Jansen, Josh Walker (Brisbane)
DRAFT PICKS: 67, 85, 103, 121
The Cats made it clear they want their absence from the finals to be a one-year proposition by bringing in four experienced players at the sacrifice of any presence in the draft.
Dangerfield should have the same effect as Chris Judd and Gary Ablett did after their mid-career club switches while Henderson will boost the lowest-scoring attack in the top 12.

PORT ADELAIDE
IN: Charlie Dixon (Gold Coast), Jimmy Toumpas (Melbourne)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 32, 49, 86, 104, 122
The Power enjoyed their third successful trade period in a row — largely because they continue to be a destination club. Dixon will provide a seriously big target in the forward line and returning to SA may spark Toumpas’s career.
The Matthew Lobbe situation is worth reviewing next season. If he struggles to play it may have been better to attempt to flip him for another player or draft pick.

RICHMOND
IN: Jacob Townsend (GWS), Chris Yarran (Carlton)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 12, 52, 88, 106, 120, 124
The Tigers emphasised how close they felt they were to contending last season by pretty much focusing all their energy on securing Yarran. They finally got their man this afternoon but will he be enough to get them over the hump?

WEST COAST
IN: Jonathan Giles (Essendon), Lewis Jetta (Sydney), Jack Redden (Brisbane)
OUT: Matt Rosa (Gold Coast), Scott Selwood (Geelong), Callum Sinclair (Sydney)
DRAFT PICKS: 23, 31, 62, 75, 93, 111, 129
The Eagles look to have closed the gap on Hawthorn by adding Jetta and Redden, but exactly how much remains to be seen. Both are experienced, peak-age footballers who at their best will add quality to Adam Simpson’s side. None of the departures are significant.

WESTERN BULLDOGS
IN: Matt Suckling (Hawthorn)
OUT: Michael Talia (Sydney)
DRAFT PICKS: 20, 21, 30, 51, 87, 105, 123
Only one real piece of work for the Dogs’s footy department during the trade period but it wasn’t a bad one. Suckling may have missed out on a spot in Hawthorn’s starting 21 on Grand Final day but he’s an effective ball user who should mesh well with Luke Beveridge’s run-and-gun game.




LOSERS
ADELAIDE
IN: Paul Seedsman (Collingwood), Curtly Hampton (GWS), Dean Gore (Geelong), Troy Menzel (Carlton)
OUT: Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong), Sam Kerridge (Carlton)
DRAFT PICKS: 9, 13, 71, 89, 107, 125
Couldn’t have recovered much better from losing one of the best three players in the competition but in US monetary terms they’ve replaced a $1 coin (Dangerfield) with three quarters (Seedsman, Hampton, Menzel) and a dime (Gore).
The early draft picks are great given the lack of first round talent this club has secured in recent years but this trade period likely keeps the Crows a year or two away from legitimately contending.

BRISBANE
IN: Jarrad Jansen, Josh Walker (Geelong), Ryan Bastinac (North Melbourne), Tom Bell (Carlton)
OUT: Matthew Leuenberger (Essendon), Jack Redden (West Coast), James Aish (Collingwood)
DRAFT PICKS: 2, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 78, 96, 114,
After the success of last year’s trade period where the Lions secured Dayne Beams and Allen Christensen they returned to normal this year by farewelling three players they would have preferred to keep.
Walker gives them something to kick to in attack next season and Bell and Bastinac will play but they need to nail the second pick in the draft.

CARLTON
IN: Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner (GWS), Sam Kerridge (Adelaide)
OUT: Tom Bell (Brisbane), Lachie Henderson (Geelong), Troy Menzel (Adelaide), Chris Yarran (Richmond)
DRAFT PICKS: 1, 8, 11, 19, 59, 60, 113
Lost three top 10 players at the club (Yarran, Bell, Henderson) and another who had the potential to be one next season (Menzel). Despite adding four Giants they missed out on the one they really wanted (Adam Tomlinson) and Kerridge was never able to secure a regular spot in Adelaide.
It’s going to be a long rebuild at the Blues but with four picks inside the top 20 — including pick one — they’re in position to start.

GOLD COAST
IN: Matt Rosa (West Coast), Daniel Currie (North Melbourne)
OUT: Harley Bennell (Fremantle), Charlie Dixon (Port Adelaide), Zac Smith (Geelong)
DRAFT PICKS: 6, 16, 29, 35, 61, 79, 97, 115
You can argue the Suns didn’t need to do a lot during this trade period with ‘recruits’ like Gary Ablett, Jaeger O’Meara, Dion Prestia and David Swallow to return from injury next season.
But losing Dixon and Bennell — at least from a talent and return on investment point of view — is a blow.

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
IN: Steve Johnson, Dawson Simpson (Geelong)
OUT: Adam Treloar (Collingwood), Curtly Hampton (Adelaide), Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner (Carlton), Jacob Townsend (Richmond), Tomas Bugg (Melbourne)
DRAFT PICKS: 10, 34, 43, 53, 55, 58, 63, 64, 65, 70, 95, 102
It's hard to make sense of what the Giants have done by clearing out such a large number of players and only adding Johnson and Simpson.
Treloar’s departure hurts because at this point he was arguably the best homegrown player in Giants’ history. Stevie J has a bit left in the tank but might not be enough to push GWS into the eight.

HAWTHORN
IN: Jack Fitzpatrick (Melbourne)
OUT: Jed Anderson (North Melbourne), Matt Suckling (Western Bulldogs)
DRAFT PICKS: 15, 18, 48, 76, 112, 130
The Hawks traded their way to a second first round draft pick but gave up a youngster who showed signs of getting over the hump last season (Anderson) and a regular member of their 22 (Suckling). No great damage done here though.

SYDNEY
IN: Callum Sinclair (West Coast), Michael Talia (Western Bulldogs)
OUT: Craig Bird (Essendon), Lewis Jetta (West Coast)
DRAFT PICKS: 33, 36, 37, 44, 54, 69, 72, 90, 108, 126
Like the Giants, the Swans have stockpiled draft picks between 30 and 70 to use on their academy players.
Sinclair replaces retired ruckman Mike Pyke but will need to improve his game to prevent this department continuing to be a weakness against the Fremantles and North Melbournes of the competition.
Bird and Jetta didn’t offer much in 2015 but it wouldn’t surprise to see them re-emerge as strong contributors at their new clubs.


BREAKING EVEN
FREMANTLE
IN: Harley Bennell (Gold Coast)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 22, 56, 74, 92, 110, 128
The jury is still out on Fremantle’s major piece of business because the Dockers don’t have a 100 per cent success rate with mature-age recruits (see: Sylvia, Colin and Gumbleton, Scott). But Bennell’s talent is undeniable and if he can stay out of trouble he allows Ross Lyon to reload for another Grand Final tilt.
The failure to work a deal with GWS for Cam McCarthy prevents this trade period from being an undeniable success.

ST KILDA
IN: Jake Carlisle (Essendon), Nathan Freeman (Collingwood)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 14, 45, 68, 81, 99, 117
Looked like a tidy week of work for the Saints recruiting team until A Current Affair got involved. That Jake Carlisle video certainly took a lot of the gloss off his signing but perhaps it will make him even more determined to make a fist of things.

MELBOURNE
IN: Jake Melksham (Essendon), Ben Kennedy (Collingwood), Tomas Bugg (GWS)
OUT: Jeremy Howe (Collingwood), Jimmy Toumpas (Port Adelaide), Jack Fitzpatrick (Hawthorn)
DRAFT PICKS: 3, 7, 46, 50, 82, 94, 100, 118
In terms of the players they’ve added and subtracted there wasn’t a lot lost or gain by Melbourne. Howe is arguably a better player than Melksham but the Demons can add talent after trading their way into two top seven draft picks.

NORTH MELBOURNE
IN: Jed Anderson (Hawthorn)
OUT: Daniel Currie (Gold Coast), Ryan Bastinac (Brisbane)
DRAFT PICKS: 17, 26, 28, 47, 73, 91, 109, 127
Added another contributor in the midfield in Anderson who importantly has youth on his side. In essence he’s almost a swap for Bastinac because the Kangaroos regained the first round selection they handed to Hawthorn in their trade with the Lions.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-tr ... 7578519929 - By Jai Bednall

The AFL.com ratings:

Adelaide B-
Brisbane C
Carlton B
Collingwood B+
Essendon A
Fremantle C-
Geelong A+
Gold Coast B
GWS C-
Hawthorn B+
Melbourne A+
North C
Port B
Richmond B+
St Kilda A-
Sydney B
West Coast B
Bulldogs C

[Lightning McQueen]

Bit harsh on Freo, I thought Bennell would be a great fit to there existing squad. Perhaps Pav is staying on for another year while Taberner and co. become more productive up forward, Bennell would be a nuisance for rival teams playing on a half forward flank drifting up and down the ground.

[bennymacca]

Sadly I actually own Hyundai, had to pick it up from the mechanic yesterday

Doesn't surprise me LOL

My 1996 Excel was bulletproof

Bit harsh on Freo, I thought Bennell would be a great fit to there existing squad. Perhaps Pav is staying on for another year while Taberner and co. become more productive up forward, Bennell would be a nuisance for rival teams playing on a half forward flank drifting up and down the ground.

Their failure to sign mccarthy marks them down a bit

[Jim05]

Jarrad Grant delisted by the Dogs

[bennymacca]

Jarrad Grant delisted by the Dogs

he would still have some time to go on his contract too right?

He always looked like one of those guys that had a fair chunk of talent but just did it once in a blue moon and never consistently (maybe a little like mckernan)

[MJ_23]

Bit harsh on Freo, I thought Bennell would be a great fit to there existing squad. Perhaps Pav is staying on for another year while Taberner and co. become more productive up forward, Bennell would be a nuisance for rival teams playing on a half forward flank drifting up and down the ground.

I thought they were too kind.

Again fail to lure any player that they desperately need, and that is a key forward.

Pav, Tab, Ballantyne and Walters will not win this team a premiership.

[Lightning McQueen]

Sadly I actually own Hyundai, had to pick it up from the mechanic yesterday

Doesn't surprise me LOL

My 1996 Excel was bulletproof

Bit harsh on Freo, I thought Bennell would be a great fit to there existing squad. Perhaps Pav is staying on for another year while Taberner and co. become more productive up forward, Bennell would be a nuisance for rival teams playing on a half forward flank drifting up and down the ground.

Their failure to sign mccarthy marks them down a bit

GWS had to play hard ball after last season, he was never going to be released, Freo couldn't give GWS anything they'd need.

[nuggety goodness]

Jarrad Grant delisted by the Dogs

he would still have some time to go on his contract too right?

He always looked like one of those guys that had a fair chunk of talent but just did it once in a blue moon and never consistently (maybe a little like mckernan)

Definately showed some glimpses, mostly early this year but dropped off again and has been around long enough to cement a spot. Disappointing for him but it was just a matter of time.

[Booney]

Bit harsh on Freo, I thought Bennell would be a great fit to there existing squad. Perhaps Pav is staying on for another year while Taberner and co. become more productive up forward, Bennell would be a nuisance for rival teams playing on a half forward flank drifting up and down the ground.

I thought they were too kind.

Again fail to lure any player that they desperately need, and that is a key forward.

Pav, Tab, Ballantyne and Walters will not win this team a premiership.

They might, but the bullshit plan Lyon uses will never allow us to find out.