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Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:28 am
by valleys07
Booney wrote:Surgery for Trengove tonight.

Will miss 6 weeks.


Massive loss.

Hombsch, Jonas, Westhoff and Clurey have massive roles to play over the coming 2-4 weeks.

Interesting to read Phil Walsh's assessment of Mason Shaw yesterday, saying its too early for a debut.

This would almost assure Butcher of a senior recall. #-o

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:33 am
by heater31
valleys07 wrote:
Interesting to read Phil Walsh's assessment of Mason Shaw yesterday, saying its too early for a debut.


Don't think he had played a senior game at state league level until he arrived in SA. Spent most of last season in the 2's with the odd league game.

Probably fair assessment but if he bags a few more 5 plus goals he should be knocking on the door.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:34 am
by Booney
I'm not sure Shaw ;) is ready either.

He missed a big portion of last year, missed alot of the pre-season and has only just got up and running, being competitive at SANFL level. His time will come and no need to throw him in it right now IMO.

On the flip side, Butcher doesn't deserve his spot but it may be a case of now or never for Butch. Here's your chance, take it or we'll have to make the call on you.

Having said that and knowing Port are really keen on Scotty Lycett from the Eagles, he must be chased hard.

A bloke I don't rate much might also help us while Shaw and Harvey build themselves to AFL level, Jarrod Waite, could he be worth a two year deal? Carlton will almost certainly move him on at years end, he would be relatively cheap as he won't get inundated with offers and he'd know he'd be a chance ot play finals football at Port.

As I said, I don't really rate him but Schulz and Westhoff would make Waite the third tall and not the first one taking the best defender.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:41 am
by helicopterking
Out of curiosity, What or who would you give up to get Lycett?

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:48 am
by woodublieve12
valleys07 wrote:
Booney wrote:Surgery for Trengove tonight.

Will miss 6 weeks.


Massive loss.

Hombsch, Jonas, Westhoff and Clurey have massive roles to play over the coming 2-4 weeks.

Interesting to read Phil Walsh's assessment of Mason Shaw yesterday, saying its too early for a debut.

This would almost assure Butcher of a senior recall. #-o


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Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:48 am
by Dr Phil
kane mitchell and a high five

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:58 am
by Booney
helicopterking wrote:Out of curiosity, What or who would you give up to get Lycett?


There's the kicker. Not much other than draft picks, but having said that I think Port would be pretty happy with the current squad and may be prepared to "skip" a draft and give up a first and second rounder to get Lycett.

The only WA native we have, I think, is Ben Newton who is burning up the SANFL this year and constantly pushing for AFL selection. I doubt he would be someone we would be willing to give up. If we really want Lycett though, he may be one of interest to the Eagles.

It could also be a case of him seeking greater opportunities over a fringe spot at Port.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:59 am
by Fricky
Booney wrote:I'm not sure Shaw ;) is ready either.

He missed a big portion of last year, missed alot of the pre-season and has only just got up and running, being competitive at SANFL level. His time will come and no need to throw him in it right now IMO.

On the flip side, Butcher doesn't deserve his spot but it may be a case of now or never for Butch. Here's your chance, take it or we'll have to make the call on you.

Having said that and knowing Port are really keen on Scotty Lycett from the Eagles, he must be chased hard.

A bloke I don't rate much might also help us while Shaw and Harvey build themselves to AFL level, Jarrod Waite, could he be worth a two year deal? Carlton will almost certainly move him on at years end, he would be relatively cheap as he won't get inundated with offers and he'd know he'd be a chance ot play finals football at Port.

As I said, I don't really rate him but Schulz and Westhoff would make Waite the third tall and not the first one taking the best defender.


Do you think Hinkley will be looking at Butcher as trade bait? Or it will be a case of Butcher finding himself without an AFL contract at the end of the season?

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:59 am
by the milky bar kid
helicopterking wrote:Out of curiosity, What or who would you give up to get Lycett?


About the same as they gave for Brad Ebert ;)

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:00 pm
by Booney
Suri wrote:
Booney wrote:I'm not sure Shaw ;) is ready either.

He missed a big portion of last year, missed alot of the pre-season and has only just got up and running, being competitive at SANFL level. His time will come and no need to throw him in it right now IMO.

On the flip side, Butcher doesn't deserve his spot but it may be a case of now or never for Butch. Here's your chance, take it or we'll have to make the call on you.

Having said that and knowing Port are really keen on Scotty Lycett from the Eagles, he must be chased hard.

A bloke I don't rate much might also help us while Shaw and Harvey build themselves to AFL level, Jarrod Waite, could he be worth a two year deal? Carlton will almost certainly move him on at years end, he would be relatively cheap as he won't get inundated with offers and he'd know he'd be a chance ot play finals football at Port.

As I said, I don't really rate him but Schulz and Westhoff would make Waite the third tall and not the first one taking the best defender.


Do you think Hinkley will be looking at Butcher as trade bait? Or it will be a case of Butcher finding himself without an AFL contract?


I don't know. For two years we've been waiting for his "body to be up to AFL match condition" which it now is. No more excuses for Butch.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:10 pm
by valleys07
heater31 wrote:
valleys07 wrote:
Interesting to read Phil Walsh's assessment of Mason Shaw yesterday, saying its too early for a debut.


Don't think he had played a senior game at state league level until he arrived in SA. Spent most of last season in the 2's with the odd league game.

Probably fair assessment but if he bags a few more 5 plus goals he should be knocking on the door.


I would have thought with Fletcher and Hibberd likely to miss for the bombers, it could be a good week to give him a taste- but Walshy is right in saying the consistency at SANFL level needs to be there first.

Jeez I shudder at the thought of Butch running out for our side this weekend..

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:31 pm
by helicopterking
Booney wrote:
helicopterking wrote:Out of curiosity, What or who would you give up to get Lycett?


There's the kicker. Not much other than draft picks, but having said that I think Port would be pretty happy with the current squad and may be prepared to "skip" a draft and give up a first and second rounder to get Lycett.

The only WA native we have, I think, is Ben Newton who is burning up the SANFL this year and constantly pushing for AFL selection. I doubt he would be someone we would be willing to give up. If we really want Lycett though, he may be one of interest to the Eagles.

It could also be a case of him seeking greater opportunities over a fringe spot at Port.


Is Newton a midfielder? WC are in terrible need of midfield depth. Lycett was pick 29 I think. I guess it will depend mostly on what decision Dean Cox makes.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:59 pm
by Booney
Yes, Newton a ball magnet in the SANFL at the moment and uses it well.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:14 pm
by Rik E Boy
Suri wrote:
Booney wrote:I'm not sure Shaw ;) is ready either.

He missed a big portion of last year, missed alot of the pre-season and has only just got up and running, being competitive at SANFL level. His time will come and no need to throw him in it right now IMO.

On the flip side, Butcher doesn't deserve his spot but it may be a case of now or never for Butch. Here's your chance, take it or we'll have to make the call on you.

Having said that and knowing Port are really keen on Scotty Lycett from the Eagles, he must be chased hard.

A bloke I don't rate much might also help us while Shaw and Harvey build themselves to AFL level, Jarrod Waite, could he be worth a two year deal? Carlton will almost certainly move him on at years end, he would be relatively cheap as he won't get inundated with offers and he'd know he'd be a chance ot play finals football at Port.

As I said, I don't really rate him but Schulz and Westhoff would make Waite the third tall and not the first one taking the best defender.



Do you think Hinkley will be looking at Butcher as trade bait? Or it will be a case of Butcher finding himself without an AFL contract at the end of the season?


I reckon Butcher will get the chop.

regards,

REB

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:20 pm
by The Dark Knight
helicopterking wrote:
Booney wrote:
helicopterking wrote:Out of curiosity, What or who would you give up to get Lycett?


There's the kicker. Not much other than draft picks, but having said that I think Port would be pretty happy with the current squad and may be prepared to "skip" a draft and give up a first and second rounder to get Lycett.

The only WA native we have, I think, is Ben Newton who is burning up the SANFL this year and constantly pushing for AFL selection. I doubt he would be someone we would be willing to give up. If we really want Lycett though, he may be one of interest to the Eagles.

It could also be a case of him seeking greater opportunities over a fringe spot at Port.


Is Newton a midfielder? WC are in terrible need of midfield depth. Lycett was pick 29 I think. I guess it will depend mostly on what decision Dean Cox makes.

My brother and I were talking about this and he said Port are chasing Lycett really hard and he reckons they will trade Newton for Lycett.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:21 pm
by the milky bar kid
Pretty sure Butcher is already contracted beyond this season.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:43 pm
by GWW
The Eagles would go after Sandgroper Mason Shaw if they could - unless this lad wanted to desperately return to Perth (and I don't believe this is likely), there is no way we'd let him go though.

I think a Newton for Lycett swap would be reasonably likely to occur (with draft picks somehow thrown in as well), although I suspect the Eagles won't be as easy to trade with, compared to the Ebert trade a few years back.

Newton does get a lot of the ball, does seem to struggle a bit with disposal accuracy at the higher level at least, although this may be a case of requiring time to get accustomed to the speed of the game.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:53 pm
by NO-MERCY
Rik E Boy wrote:
Suri wrote:
Booney wrote:I'm not sure Shaw ;) is ready either.

He missed a big portion of last year, missed alot of the pre-season and has only just got up and running, being competitive at SANFL level. His time will come and no need to throw him in it right now IMO.

On the flip side, Butcher doesn't deserve his spot but it may be a case of now or never for Butch. Here's your chance, take it or we'll have to make the call on you.

Having said that and knowing Port are really keen on Scotty Lycett from the Eagles, he must be chased hard.

A bloke I don't rate much might also help us while Shaw and Harvey build themselves to AFL level, Jarrod Waite, could he be worth a two year deal? Carlton will almost certainly move him on at years end, he would be relatively cheap as he won't get inundated with offers and he'd know he'd be a chance ot play finals football at Port.

As I said, I don't really rate him but Schulz and Westhoff would make Waite the third tall and not the first one taking the best defender.



Do you think Hinkley will be looking at Butcher as trade bait? Or it will be a case of Butcher finding himself without an AFL contract at the end of the season?


I reckon Butcher will get the chop.

regards,

REB


I agree with you Rick E Boy, i don't think he'll get picked up by any other club either.

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:56 pm
by Mr Beefy
Rik E Boy wrote:
Suri wrote:
Booney wrote:I'm not sure Shaw ;) is ready either.

He missed a big portion of last year, missed alot of the pre-season and has only just got up and running, being competitive at SANFL level. His time will come and no need to throw him in it right now IMO.

On the flip side, Butcher doesn't deserve his spot but it may be a case of now or never for Butch. Here's your chance, take it or we'll have to make the call on you.

Having said that and knowing Port are really keen on Scotty Lycett from the Eagles, he must be chased hard.

A bloke I don't rate much might also help us while Shaw and Harvey build themselves to AFL level, Jarrod Waite, could he be worth a two year deal? Carlton will almost certainly move him on at years end, he would be relatively cheap as he won't get inundated with offers and he'd know he'd be a chance ot play finals football at Port.

As I said, I don't really rate him but Schulz and Westhoff would make Waite the third tall and not the first one taking the best defender.



Do you think Hinkley will be looking at Butcher as trade bait? Or it will be a case of Butcher finding himself without an AFL contract at the end of the season?


I reckon Butcher will get the chop.

regards,

REB

He needs a lot of sausage rolls in the next few weeks but is form to date has been offal

Re: Port 2014 - Pre-Season/General Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:12 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
Mr Beefy wrote:He needs a lot of sausage rolls in the next few weeks but is form to date has been offal

He's still kicked the most goals for Port though hasn't he? Top 5 goal kickers in the league, can't be travelling that bad compared to others.