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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:28 pm

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DOC wrote:Following the Super League controversy in Europe it, in a nutshell, is the realisation that the rich clubs will do anything to stay that way and it totally disrespects everyone else and destroys the history of the sport. Makes it only for an elite few.

Thank God that has never happened with footy in Australia.


Ummm how was the AFL created....what happened to the SANFL, WAFL, VFL.

Not to the level of what's happening in the soccer but I reckon Collingwood are having crack at it with their ownership of the black and white stripes.


Huh? The VFL was broke and they knew the only way to dig themselves out of it was to call in support from other states. It wasn't created by Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon leaving to make their own league with Port, Norwood, Sturt and co.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby whufc » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:32 pm

Booney wrote:
whufc wrote:
DOC wrote:Following the Super League controversy in Europe it, in a nutshell, is the realisation that the rich clubs will do anything to stay that way and it totally disrespects everyone else and destroys the history of the sport. Makes it only for an elite few.

Thank God that has never happened with footy in Australia.


Ummm how was the AFL created....what happened to the SANFL, WAFL, VFL.

Not to the level of what's happening in the soccer but I reckon Collingwood are having crack at it with their ownership of the black and white stripes.


Huh? The VFL was broke and they knew the only way to dig themselves out of it was to call in support from other states. It wasn't created by Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon leaving to make their own league with Port, Norwood, Sturt and co.


The principal remains the same, league/clubs poached/created other clubs to join a league that was going to make a certain element richer at the expense of all the other clubs in the land.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby heater31 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:35 pm

Booney wrote:
whufc wrote:
DOC wrote:Following the Super League controversy in Europe it, in a nutshell, is the realisation that the rich clubs will do anything to stay that way and it totally disrespects everyone else and destroys the history of the sport. Makes it only for an elite few.

Thank God that has never happened with footy in Australia.


Ummm how was the AFL created....what happened to the SANFL, WAFL, VFL.

Not to the level of what's happening in the soccer but I reckon Collingwood are having crack at it with their ownership of the black and white stripes.


Huh? The VFL was broke and they knew the only way to dig themselves out of it was to call in support from other states. It wasn't created by Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon leaving to make their own league with Port, Norwood, Sturt and co.
They did that to the VFA in 1896 when these breakaway clubs formed the VFL
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:42 pm

Kahuna wrote:A nice write up of Nathan Jones by Titus O'Reilly.

https://www.titusoreily.com/afl/nathan- ... cYcVQj-uL4

Must be losing touch with his followers, it was a nice write up but I don't think anyone that's watched footy over the past 10 years would've thought otherwise.

Nathan Jones would be one of the first picked if you had to go in the trenches with a dozen blokes, I have to utmost respect for him, he epitomises the true Aussie battler and to finish up as a one club player (and that club being Melbourne), says a lot for the individual.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby tigerpie » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:57 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Looks like Buckley is done at the Pies at end of the year. The body language and words used is certainly from someone who is checking out....

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I watched the interview as well.
It does seem, the marriage breakdown, the off season trades and Ed leaving might have all become too much.
His body language at training the other day looked like a man with the world on his shoulders.
Just wondering if he's lost the playing group over the trade fiasco.
Unless there's a drastic turn around in form I think he'll resign at seasons end.
Scott Burns could be then in the hot seat.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:02 pm

tigerpie wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Looks like Buckley is done at the Pies at end of the year. The body language and words used is certainly from someone who is checking out....

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I watched the interview as well.
It does seem, the marriage breakdown, the off season trades and Ed leaving might have all become too much.
His body language at training the other day looked like a man with the world on his shoulders.
Just wondering if he's lost the playing group over the trade fiasco.
Unless there's a drastic turn around in form I think he'll resign at seasons end.
Scott Burns could be then in the hot seat.

He'll be gone before the end of the season.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm

Reckon Ross Lyon could coach again.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby tigerpie » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:08 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Looks like Buckley is done at the Pies at end of the year. The body language and words used is certainly from someone who is checking out....

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I watched the interview as well.
It does seem, the marriage breakdown, the off season trades and Ed leaving might have all become too much.
His body language at training the other day looked like a man with the world on his shoulders.
Just wondering if he's lost the playing group over the trade fiasco.
Unless there's a drastic turn around in form I think he'll resign at seasons end.
Scott Burns could be then in the hot seat.

He'll be gone before the end of the season.

See how we go in the next 3 weeks.
Bombers, gold coast then north.
Could be 4 and 4 potentially.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:12 pm

tigerpie wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Looks like Buckley is done at the Pies at end of the year. The body language and words used is certainly from someone who is checking out....

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I watched the interview as well.
It does seem, the marriage breakdown, the off season trades and Ed leaving might have all become too much.
His body language at training the other day looked like a man with the world on his shoulders.
Just wondering if he's lost the playing group over the trade fiasco.
Unless there's a drastic turn around in form I think he'll resign at seasons end.
Scott Burns could be then in the hot seat.

He'll be gone before the end of the season.

See how we go in the next 3 weeks.
Bombers, gold coast then north.
Could be 4 and 4 potentially.

Might win one of them I reckon
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby tigerpie » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:15 pm

Bombers will be a tough game but if we don't beat GC and North he's done.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:26 pm

tigerpie wrote:Bombers will be a tough game but if we don't beat GC and North he's done.

Would Harvey or Skipworth be up for taking the reigns for the interim? I know Sando has the experience but would you go down that path?
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby tigerpie » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:02 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Bombers will be a tough game but if we don't beat GC and North he's done.

Would Harvey or Skipworth be up for taking the reigns for the interim? I know Sando has the experience but would you go down that path?

Its all pie in the sky ( pun intended).
All depends on the next months results.
Personally I'd like to see him finish off the year.
He's been a great servant of the club.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Wedgie » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:24 pm

Booney wrote:Geelong's Cat Man has hung up the ears/make up/claws/outfit.

Thank christ for that, at least one good thing has happened at sleepy hollow.
How old is he? We might be lining him up for a playing contract.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby JK » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:25 pm

Hold off til end of season, then Jeff will be happy to let Clarko go and he can just shimmy over to Vic Park.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:43 pm

JK wrote:Hold off til end of season, then Jeff will be happy to let Clarko go and he can just shimmy over to Vic Park.

Clarkson to Collingwood would be like Malthouse going to Carlton. You can't polish a turd and a good way to end up being remembered for the wrong reason rather than the achievements.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby tigerpie » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:44 pm

JK wrote:Hold off til end of season, then Jeff will be happy to let Clarko go and he can just shimmy over to Vic Park.

Don't mind it. Renew acquaintance's with graham wright.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby tigerpie » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:46 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
JK wrote:Hold off til end of season, then Jeff will be happy to let Clarko go and he can just shimmy over to Vic Park.

Clarkson to Collingwood would be like Malthouse going to Carlton. You can't polish a turd and a good way to end up being remembered for the wrong reason rather than the achievements.

Two things.....clarkson a lot younger than malthouse was and our list is a lot better than Carlton's when malthouse took over.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby JK » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:48 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
JK wrote:Hold off til end of season, then Jeff will be happy to let Clarko go and he can just shimmy over to Vic Park.

Clarkson to Collingwood would be like Malthouse going to Carlton. You can't polish a turd and a good way to end up being remembered for the wrong reason rather than the achievements.


Not the same level of rivalry, final payday for Clarko at one of the best resourced clubs who's future doesn't look terrible. All guesswork, but could see it happening.
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Re: AFL 2021

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:49 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Booney wrote:Geelong's Cat Man has hung up the ears/make up/claws/outfit.

Thank christ for that, at least one good thing has happened at sleepy hollow.
How old is he? We might be lining him up for a playing contract.
Sounds like Chris Scott has now lost the #1 fan....

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Re: AFL 2021

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:57 pm

tigerpie wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:
JK wrote:Hold off til end of season, then Jeff will be happy to let Clarko go and he can just shimmy over to Vic Park.

Clarkson to Collingwood would be like Malthouse going to Carlton. You can't polish a turd and a good way to end up being remembered for the wrong reason rather than the achievements.

Two things.....clarkson a lot younger than malthouse was and our list is a lot better than Carlton's when malthouse took over.


In 2012, when Carlton sacked Ratten for Malthouse they had Waite, Betts, Kreuzer, Gibbs, Simpson, Walker, Scotland and Judd. Fair core, they finished 11-11 in 2012.
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