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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Brodlach » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:05 pm

Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:49 pm

Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move


Time will tell but he was worth the risk...... I'll give Port that one.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Brodlach » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:13 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move


Time will tell but he was worth the risk...... I'll give Port that one.
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Might help if he can stay fit and if they don't bomb it on his head everytime
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby JK » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:14 pm

Brodlach wrote:I am no fan at all of Troy Menzel, I think we (the Crows) are in trouble if he plays but I would even take him before Polec. Polec's best games came when Hinkley bought in the run game style but as soon as teams worked that plan out Polec has become null and void.


Not trolling just having a footy discussion


Polec is that type of outside player you'd love to see get pole axed (lol maybe that's just me), but he can be exceptionally damaging when on song. Seems to have reduced the incidences of shanks since his earlier days, and would be one of those players that can massively help the key forwards. Body language not great at times, but he has the ability imho.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Ruben Carter » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:18 pm

Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move

Me either. He's not Buddy, but he'll be the no.1 tall forward in SA by the end of this season, I reckon. :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Brodlach » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:23 pm

Ruben Carter wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move

Me either. He's not Buddy, but he'll be the no.1 tall forward in SA by the end of this season, I reckon. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: you jokester Rubén
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby valleys07 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:24 pm

Ruben Carter wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move

Me either. He's not Buddy, but he'll be the no.1 tall forward in SA by the end of this season, I reckon. :D


Christ! There's optimism, then lunacy, then Ruben :lol:

He has 1 tall to overtake before he is the #1 forward on Port's list. Then we can work on Adelaide's :(
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Ruben Carter » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:21 pm

valleys07 wrote:
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Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move

Me either. He's not Buddy, but he'll be the no.1 tall forward in SA by the end of this season, I reckon. :D


Christ! There's optimism, then lunacy, then Ruben :lol:

He has 1 tall to overtake before he is the #1 forward on Port's list. Then we can work on Adelaide's :(

Oh ye of little faith... :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Dutchy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:25 pm

Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move


Averages 13 games a year and was injured again this pre-season....
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Ruben Carter » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:53 am

Dutchy wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Have no issue with Dixon getting 5 years, had to offer them some sort of carrot to get him to move


Averages 13 games a year and was injured again this pre-season....

Correct. So the law of averages is in his favour this year :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby GWW » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:57 am

Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby stan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:57 am

GWW wrote:Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

What Butcher doesnt get a mention?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Dutchy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:06 am

GWW wrote:Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.


And the downside is you get stuck with him for 5 years on big $....huge risk.

Very early in the season, but at this stage a Rookie on 10% of his pay packet is looking more dangerous.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby MW » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:20 pm

Kochie just can't stop can he...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/power-president-david-koch-digs-line-in-the-sand-deeper-making-bigger-hole-for-coach-ken-hinkley/news-story/f21191ee519d747331326a79307f3fb0


DAVID Koch arrived as Port Adelaide president in October 2012 saying he did not want a “high profile” and he would leave the football speak to those who were experts in the field.

But that was five years ago ... and clearly much has changed at Alberton.

Koch, who confesses he professionally deals with spruiking bulldust as a media performer, was parachuted by the AFL into the Port Adelaide Football Club presidency at the same time the AFL Commission was putting together contingency plans to spread the Power licence across Adelaide, Alice Springs and Darwin — and, at worst, Tasmania.

Five years on, Koch leads a club that is carrying the AFL flag to China — and a supporter base that prefers him to have a high profile and also talk football.

Koch also is speaking their language from the club’s SANFL era when, as Port Adelaide fans remember it, “we won a flag every second year”. This is not so easy to achieve in the AFL.

Koch stayed true to his summer script with his appearance on the Channel Nine Footy Show on Thursday night when he kept the “failed” stamp on Port Adelaide’s 10th ranking last season, the second consecutive year with the Power out of the top eight.

Will Ken Hinkley survive?

“It’s failure, full stop,” Koch said on the Footy Show, as he had in that infamous radio interview with FIVEaa in the Williams Family Stand at Alberton went the pre-season kicked off last month with an internal trial.

“Not making the finals is no excuses; it is failure, full stop.

“I hate giving excuses. I say, ‘We failed’.

“We’ve learnt. We’ve got to do better. And we will continue to learn.

“And,” adds Koch in a telling statement, “we understand the expectations of our members and supporters that we play — and my expectation is — we play finals each and every year.

“We are not going to tolerate a third year (without finals) at all — and we don’t think we’ll need to.”

Immediately, this is read as turning the heat on coach Ken Hinkley, who — if this means anything — is on contract to lead the Power next year.

And there is the question of whether Koch’s statements help Hinkley achieve his goals — and whether club president and coach are indeed on the same page.

Koch’s platform is: Port Adelaide MUST play finals this season or there will be consequences.

Hinkley’s theme is: The Power’s goal is to make the top eight this year — and there always is a fallout, be it to players, assistant coaches or football staff, at the end of every season.

Both Koch and Hinkley want Port Adelaide in September action this year. The question is how each will react if the Power stays in the bottom 10.

That question has been there since Koch, Hinkley, chief executive Keith Thomas and captain Travis Boak met in a cafe on the Gold Coast at 9 the Sunday morning after the Power’s season closed at Metricon Stadium on August 27 — for a “robust and confronting session,” as Koch recalls it.

This unease continued at the John Cahill Medal club champion count a fortnight later when Koch put football at the forefront of his sermon — and Hinkley, who spoke later, noted much of his speech had been taken by the president.

Clearly, much has changed at Alberton since October 1, 2012.

Koch is no longer low profile (if he ever was going to be).

And Hinkley — who was presented as the “best man standing” rather than “last man standing” for the coaching job — is not the only man charged with talking footy at Port Adelaide.

That is the price of resetting expectation at Alberton so quickly by lifting the “basket case” Power from 14th in 2012 to fifth in 2013.

Recreating that “miracle” turnaround may not be easy this time, particularly when there is heat within the clubhouse from the board room.

Hinkley’s former right-hand man, Alan Richardson, must be grateful he has put St Kilda on the gradual rise — 18th, 14th and ninth — to manage expectations.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby the milky bar kid » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:37 pm

MW wrote:Kochie just can't stop can he...


He's just saying what everyone knew.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby GWW » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:55 pm

stan wrote:
GWW wrote:Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

What Butcher doesnt get a mention?


Fair point - yeah, he belongs in the group too.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby DOC » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:07 pm

GWW wrote:
stan wrote:
GWW wrote:Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

What Butcher doesnt get a mention?


Fair point - yeah, he belongs in the group too.



If they had been at different (SANFL) clubs (ie the old system), would they have developed better?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby am Bays » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:20 pm

DOC wrote:
GWW wrote:
stan wrote:
GWW wrote:Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

What Butcher doesnt get a mention?


Fair point - yeah, he belongs in the group too.



If they had been at different (SANFL) clubs (ie the old system), would they have developed better?


Butcher was at Port in the old system, Harvey too IIRC. Not sure on Shaw.

Maybe Butchers non-development is due to that one Ressies game he had at the Bays in 2012 as our go to forward??
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:33 pm

Maybe? I think we all know the answer to that.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby amber_fluid » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:20 pm

GWW wrote:
stan wrote:
GWW wrote:Dixon was a risk Port had to take, because the club's drafting & development of key forwards - eg Harvey & Shaw - has been diabolical.

What Butcher doesnt get a mention?


Fair point - yeah, he belongs in the group too.


He would be the captain of that group!
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