Armchair expert wrote:
It was noted early in the game, however, that Hollands may be a concern and the longer the game went, the more clear it became to Blues staff that he wasn’t fit to continue.
Hollands played just nine minutes in the last quarter of a tight loss.
amber_fluid wrote:You can blame the club or Voss or whoever……..
But at what point does the player take responsibility
Smoke, fire and all that !
Booney wrote:amber_fluid wrote:You can blame the club or Voss or whoever……..
But at what point does the player take responsibility
Smoke, fire and all that !
In his state? None. That's on those around him.
amber_fluid wrote:Booney wrote:amber_fluid wrote:You can blame the club or Voss or whoever……..
But at what point does the player take responsibility
Smoke, fire and all that !
In his state? None. That's on those around him.
If mental health I agree
If history is repeating itself that’s on the player too
wenchbarwer wrote:
Have a read about Gavin Crosisca, he was on the gear for much of his career and no-one had any idea
wenchbarwer wrote:I was referring to the article, it says it was a mental health episode.
Carlton staff would have an excellent idea of his mental state, probably as good as his parents at this point in his life as he'd spend 20+ hours a week with these people.
At the first sign of concern, he should have been taken from the field and into the rooms for a welfare check.
amber_fluid wrote:You’d be on the gear if you played for Carlton too
Lightning McQueen wrote:wenchbarwer wrote:I was referring to the article, it says it was a mental health episode.
Carlton staff would have an excellent idea of his mental state, probably as good as his parents at this point in his life as he'd spend 20+ hours a week with these people.
At the first sign of concern, he should have been taken from the field and into the rooms for a welfare check.
Check out the 2nd bit of footage on this page.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/hes-s ... 0a5506dbb3
whufc wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:wenchbarwer wrote:I was referring to the article, it says it was a mental health episode.
Carlton staff would have an excellent idea of his mental state, probably as good as his parents at this point in his life as he'd spend 20+ hours a week with these people.
At the first sign of concern, he should have been taken from the field and into the rooms for a welfare check.
Check out the 2nd bit of footage on this page.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/hes-s ... 0a5506dbb3
That shot at goal in the warm up is pretty disturbing.
wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.
Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
amber_fluid wrote:wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.
Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL
How would it help him?
amber_fluid wrote:wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.
Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL
How would it help him?
wenchbarwer wrote:amber_fluid wrote:wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.
Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL
How would it help him?
If it's mental health, it clears up all the bullshit, yeah?
Booney wrote:amber_fluid wrote:wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.
Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL
How would it help him?
It would help others to help him.
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