St Kilda players spoken to

[Swamp Donkey]

She's not far off it, if it is in fact the case!

[Westsider]

Just found 55 pics of her.

Wonder if she is the girl.

[jointman]

Just found 55 pics of her.

Wonder if she is the girl.

show us then mate

[Westsider]

Trying to confirm she is indeed the girl.

Don't want to spread pics of an innocent girl.


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[purch]

So, the girl was 16 (age of consent is 16 for girls) and the AFL believes they did not meet her at a school clinic.
It completely changes the context of the story now.
Maybe the focus could now, instead of solely on the actions of the AFL players involved, could be on parents who allow their 16 year old daughter to go to nightclubs and put herself in a position for this to happen.

The AFL footballers, while stupid, are the easy target and good for headlines...

Incorrect.

I have been sitting in jury service for the past month, and my number came up for 2 separate rape/unlawful sexual intercourse (USI) cases

Here's a few facts that I've discovered recently about our laws:

Firstly, if she was under the age of 17 at the time of the alleged incident(s) then the police are obliged to investigate. If the players plead not guilty then it will molst likely make it to trial by jury, if the police/prosecution can compile adequate evidence to convince an alleged offence to a jury. The jury will be instructed by a judge that a guilty verdict for USI requires the following, beyond reasonable doubt:

1. That sexual intercourse occurred. This can include normal penis-vagina intercourse, cunnilingus, anal penetration, penetration by any part of the body (e.g. fingers).
2. That the alleged victim was under 17 years of age at time.

If the prosecution proves beyond reasonable doubt (harder to do than you might think) then a judge will instruct a jury to find the accused person/people guilty of unlawful sexual intercourse.

The law also states that some people cannot give consent to sexual intercourse. This includes:

- A person who has sexual intercourse with any person under the age of 14 years shall be guilty of an offence and liable to be imprisoned for life.
- A person who has sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 17 years is guilty of an offence. Maximum penalty: Imprisonment for 10 years.
- A person who, being in a position of authority in relation to a person under the age of 18 years, has sexual intercourse with that person is guilty of an offence. Maximum penalty: Imprisonment for 10 years. The person in a position of authority could be a teacher, foster parent, step-parent, guardian, religious official or spiritual leader, medical practitioner, psychologist, social worker, person employed in correctional institution or training centre, or employer.

Consent has nothing to do with it, unless the accused is charged with rape.

[Trader]

Purch, I understand those to be the laws in SA, apparently in Victoria it is 16 not 17.

[purch]

Purch, I understand those to be the laws in SA, apparently in Victoria it is 16 not 17.

Spot on..my bad

Curious how laws like that change across state borders

[FlyingHigh]

Purch, I understand those to be the laws in SA, apparently in Victoria it is 16 not 17.

Spot on..my bad

Curious how laws like that change across state borders

Didn't one of the "encounters" happen in Sydney? How would that affect the laws if they were both Victorian citizens?

[HH3]

I was talking to a teacher i know about this when it happened and he said the law here is 16 and a half...

but he is a PE teacher, so prob a bit lax on the "rules"...

[Punk Rooster]

Purch, I understand those to be the laws in SA, apparently in Victoria it is 16 not 17.

Spot on..my bad

Curious how laws like that change across state borders

Didn't one of the "encounters" happen in Sydney? How would that affect the laws if they were both Victorian citizens?

if an offence is committed in Sydney, then NSW law applies- regardless of where the offenders are from.
Good to see the laws work though- paedophile priests flout the law with ease...

[Trader]

My understanding is the Sydney encounter was just a quick chat and an exchange of phone numbers. The hanky panky occurred back in Melbourne over the coming weeks.

[Chuck Wepner]

My understanding is the Sydney encounter was just a quick chat and an exchange of phone numbers. The hanky panky occurred back in Melbourne over the coming weeks.

[Trader]

So there is a group on facebook called "Leave {xyz} alone"

Where {xyz} is the girl involved in the scandal.

It's only a small group with about 250 members, however there is a very interesting one on the list.

The crows very own Taylor Walker.
Should we read anything into that or is he just a nice county boy who feels sorry for her?

[Dogwatcher]

Which county? Sussex, Middlesex or Essex?

[Trader]

Yup, missed the R, well spotted.
Taylor wouldn't notice though, it's not like they teach you to read and write in Broken Hill.

[Sorry Dude]

I was talking to a teacher i know about this when it happened and he said the law here is 16 and a half...

but he is a PE teacher, so prob a bit lax on the "rules"...

HA HA HA