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Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:34 pmby woodublieve12
Why? Because it's the truth?
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:38 pmby Booney
woodublieve12 wrote:
i find it amusing (sadly) the comments saying "he brings onto himself"
i wonder what some of their thoughts on rape... "oh she was a bit flirty, she deserved it"...
Obviously a massive difference but it's getting quite aggressive now when they say it.
You think!
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:41 pmby cennals05
Actually Waleed Aly did write a really good article about Michael Long and calling out racism that is quite relevant to the whole Goodes debate. Not much seems to have changed in 20 years.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/ ... e=fullpage
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:02 pmby Dogwatcher
But the backlash was firm and swift. Talkback callers accused him of over-sensitivity and questioned his manhood. He was accused of reverse racism. Former players joined in. Tony Shaw warned Long he would get "a reputation". Mal Brown could not see why racist abuse was any different to him being called fat as a player. Brown pined for the '70s, when Aborigines were taunted with "nigger, nigger pull the trigger" and "people just rose above it". Simultaneously, he claimed victimhood for white children: "There is a great fear that, with the division between us and them, our own children won't get equal opportunity."
Sam Newman argued that the insult was probably designed to do no more than distract Long, and that in any event, "Michael Long IS black".
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:07 pmby woodublieve12
Dogwatcher wrote: But the backlash was firm and swift. Talkback callers accused him of over-sensitivity and questioned his manhood. He was accused of reverse racism. Former players joined in. Tony Shaw warned Long he would get "a reputation". Mal Brown could not see why racist abuse was any different to him being called fat as a player. Brown pined for the '70s, when Aborigines were taunted with "nigger, nigger pull the trigger" and "people just rose above it". Simultaneously, he claimed victimhood for white children: "There is a great fear that, with the division between us and them, our own children won't get equal opportunity."
Sam Newman argued that the insult was probably designed to do no more than distract Long, and that in any event, "Michael Long IS black".
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:43 pmby woodublieve12
Remember when Taylor Walker got booed after the showdown, people said that was a disgrace. But apparently people don't think a continual character assassination of a bloke isn't...
double standards again...
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:52 pmby Hefty
woodublieve12 wrote:Remember when Taylor Walker got booed after the showdown, people said that was a disgrace. But apparently people don't think a continual character assassination of a bloke isn't...
double standards again...
OK, we get it......you don't like the booing. Let me ask you this, if Goodes didn't play for Sydney would you be so anti-booing??
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:52 pmby Jase
woodublieve12 wrote:Remember when Taylor Walker got booed after the showdown, people said that was a disgrace. But apparently people don't think a continual character assassination of a bloke isn't...
double standards again...
So by booing someone you are assassinating their character? Because isn't that what this is about, him being boo'd, I wouldn't necessarily claim that booing is "vitriolic abuse" either...
Clearly, I am struggling to keep up here...
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:16 pmby whufc
Jase wrote:woodublieve12 wrote:Remember when Taylor Walker got booed after the showdown, people said that was a disgrace. But apparently people don't think a continual character assassination of a bloke isn't...
double standards again...
So by booing someone you are assassinating their character? Because isn't that what this is about, him being boo'd, I wouldn't necessarily claim that booing is "vitriolic abuse" either...
Clearly, I am struggling to keep up here...
Stuff being an umpire then!!!
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:11 pmby woodublieve12
Hefty wrote:woodublieve12 wrote:Remember when Taylor Walker got booed after the showdown, people said that was a disgrace. But apparently people don't think a continual character assassination of a bloke isn't...
double standards again...
OK, we get it......you don't like the booing. Let me ask you this, if Goodes didn't play for Sydney would you be so anti-booing??
Booing in general doesn't bother me a great deal. I don't do it, but I get why people do to a point. But this more than that...
And bloody oath I would!
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:20 pmby Sheik Yerbouti
If Goodes gets booed it won't be the people booing Goodes it'll be aimed at the sanctimonious flogs like Rebecca Wilson, Fabian Leach, Mark Robinson & every second bearded sandal wearing academic looking down their noses & ordering the great unwashed to obey them. They throw the racism card around like confetti.
The right approach came from the likes of Scott, Walker, Goddard & even Whatley who basically stated that it was about time to give the jeering a spell, football people are basically decent people & that would have been the end of it. What your common garden variety supporter (or Australian for that matter) despises is being talked down to & ordered to follow any holier than thou script demanded by those who perceive that they have the right to command to the masses.
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:23 pmby Rik E Boy
Footy Smart wrote:so many people are justifying their abuse 'because he is a flog'. That doesn’t cut it IMO. When challenged the arguments do come back round to being race related apart from his occasional snipes and the tribunal supposedly looking after him (his fault of course). But hey, Goodes started it by calling Australia Day, Invasion Day. Give me a break…. if that is the way the indigenous people of this country view the day, then who are we to tell them otherwise. They arent far off the truth!
Are you calling me a racist my friend? You're drawing a long ******* bow. If I'm a racist that's going to be a big ******* surprise to the best man at my wedding.
Regards,
REB
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:40 pmby Wedgie
Hefty wrote:woodublieve12 wrote:Remember when Taylor Walker got booed after the showdown, people said that was a disgrace. But apparently people don't think a continual character assassination of a bloke isn't...
double standards again...
OK, we get it......you don't like the booing. Let me ask you this, if Goodes didn't play for Sydney would you be so anti-booing??
Wouldn't make a difference to me who he played for. The fact he is a Sydney player is irrelevent.
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:43 pmby Wedgie
Rik E Boy wrote:Footy Smart wrote:so many people are justifying their abuse 'because he is a flog'. That doesn’t cut it IMO. When challenged the arguments do come back round to being race related apart from his occasional snipes and the tribunal supposedly looking after him (his fault of course). But hey, Goodes started it by calling Australia Day, Invasion Day. Give me a break…. if that is the way the indigenous people of this country view the day, then who are we to tell them otherwise. They arent far off the truth!
Are you calling me a racist my friend? You're drawing a long ******* bow. If I'm a racist that's going to be a big ******* surprise to the best man at my wedding.
Regards,
REB
Who you had for your best man at your wedding is irrelevent. A racist isn't someone who hates every single person of an entire race (even though they can).
Most racists I know don't even realise or admit it themselves and they all deny it vehemently.
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:51 pmby Jase
Wedgie wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:Footy Smart wrote:so many people are justifying their abuse 'because he is a flog'. That doesn’t cut it IMO. When challenged the arguments do come back round to being race related apart from his occasional snipes and the tribunal supposedly looking after him (his fault of course). But hey, Goodes started it by calling Australia Day, Invasion Day. Give me a break…. if that is the way the indigenous people of this country view the day, then who are we to tell them otherwise. They arent far off the truth!
Are you calling me a racist my friend? You're drawing a long ******* bow. If I'm a racist that's going to be a big ******* surprise to the best man at my wedding.
Regards,
REB
Who you had for your best man at your wedding is irrelevent. A racist isn't someone who hates every single person of an entire race (even though they can).
Most racists I know don't even realise or admit it themselves and they all deny it vehemently.
Edit
Ah dont worry about it...
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:19 pmby Wedgie
If I was on the side of the booers, I'd think to myself "hmmm, I'm on the same side of this argument as Jason Akermanis, Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt, Shane Warne, Dermott Brereton and basically every uneducated redneck racist in Australia, perhaps I should reconsider?"
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:22 pmby mighty_tiger_79
Boooo
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:12 pmby woodublieve12
Hefty wrote:woodublieve12 wrote:Remember when Taylor Walker got booed after the showdown, people said that was a disgrace. But apparently people don't think a continual character assassination of a bloke isn't...
double standards again...
OK, we get it......you don't like the booing. Let me ask you this, if Goodes didn't play for Sydney would you be so anti-booing??
Let me ask you this, if it wasn't Goodes would you feel the same?
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:51 pmby stan
Probably time to give it a spell and concentrate back on football. I think the media needs to step back a bit. Really without them pushing it so hard and demanding it be about race it probably would ha e died out a bit. I mean going and getting opinions from Wilson, Akermanis and Jones. Seriously it would only fuel it further. In the end we have heard opinions from every man and his dog but not Goodes. Just seems like something else the media wish to fuel.
I also think goodes should have plaued this week. Crows fans would most likely be well behaved.
Re: Sydney Swans 2015
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Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:00 pmby stan
Wedgie wrote:If I was on the side of the booers, I'd think to myself "hmmm, I'm on the same side of this argument as Jason Akermanis, Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt, Shane Warne, Dermott Brereton and basically every uneducated redneck racist in Australia, perhaps I should reconsider?"
Bolt lol. Has as much credibility as a Shane Watson review.