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Postby smac » Wed May 09, 2007 6:52 pm

And I was sitting in the Fitzroy thread with a few mates having a beer and watching strippers, while the action was over here!
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Postby PhilG » Wed May 09, 2007 6:53 pm

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Postby Coorong » Wed May 09, 2007 7:17 pm

PhilG wrote:And there won't be any action over there, Smac. Not from me anyway - I can't speak for you-know-who.


Bex powder, cup of tea....bit of a lie down and three weeks rest from the forum.. You will comeback just so full of enthusiasm.
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Postby am Bays » Wed May 09, 2007 7:40 pm

PhilG wrote:I never said I was right in every post I put. I just happen to be right on this occasion.



*sigh - why am I getting sucked in?*

As posted before I respectfully disagree, in my opinion and interpretation of the rules, you're wrong....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby PhilG » Wed May 09, 2007 7:43 pm

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Postby Dissident » Wed May 09, 2007 7:47 pm

PhilG wrote:
Dissident wrote:You are moving, and running and going with Tassie and there's no way you can get rid of the ball by foot.


YES YOU CAN!

I've seen it. I've seen people manage it. Why can't you?


You're a dick, Phil.

I just put a scenario to you. I didn't say it was "this is what happens everytime"

The above scenario DOES happen and sometimes it's HOLDING THE BALL.
And it shouldn't be.

That has been my point all along if you'd bothered to comprehend.
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Postby Dissident » Wed May 09, 2007 7:50 pm

PhilG wrote:I never said I was right in every post I put. I just happen to be right on this occasion.

No, anger is not part of my disability. But getting people to understand (not agree - that's not mandatory) my point of view is. At present my experience as an umpire is being disrespected. (Being pissed off actually is a combination of this and the 17th club thread)


No you're not.
I know you're not.

I put a scenario up - and you said I was wrong, but didn't even understand the scenario.
You've failed to listen from the start.

The fact that no matter what, you think you're right - is disturbing.

Go back and read what I wrote from the start.
Not once have I said anything wrong.
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Postby Coorong » Wed May 09, 2007 7:50 pm

Dissident wrote:
PhilG wrote:
Dissident wrote:You are moving, and running and going with Tassie and there's no way you can get rid of the ball by foot.


YES YOU CAN!

I've seen it. I've seen people manage it. Why can't you?


You're a dick, Phil.

I just put a scenario to you. I didn't say it was "this is what happens everytime"

The above scenario DOES happen and sometimes it's HOLDING THE BALL.
And it shouldn't be.

That has been my point all along if you'd bothered to comprehend.


Uh oh...now your an aspie enemy... we will need badges made up to identify in public soon
Something like the teardrop tattoo hey
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Postby Dissident » Wed May 09, 2007 7:52 pm

PhilG wrote:
Coorong wrote:
PhilG wrote:And there won't be any action over there, Smac. Not from me anyway - I can't speak for you-know-who.


Bex powder, cup of tea....bit of a lie down and three weeks rest from the forum.. You will comeback just so full of enthusiasm.


Good advice, Coorong - why don't you take it? I hate tea and Bex.

Tassie, I was having a go at Diss - not you. You at least had the sense to agree to disagree. Let's just leave that there shall we?


That's your problem Phil - you can't agree to disagree.
You have to be right.

You've done nothing but prove that.
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Postby stan » Wed May 09, 2007 7:54 pm

Im glad that my "serious topic about umpires" has turned into such an entertaining thread. Maybe I'll ge the DVD when its finished lol
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Postby PhilG » Wed May 09, 2007 7:54 pm

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Postby Dissident » Wed May 09, 2007 7:55 pm

PhilG wrote:
Dissident wrote:
PhilG wrote:
Coorong wrote:
PhilG wrote:And there won't be any action over there, Smac. Not from me anyway - I can't speak for you-know-who.


Bex powder, cup of tea....bit of a lie down and three weeks rest from the forum.. You will comeback just so full of enthusiasm.


Good advice, Coorong - why don't you take it? I hate tea and Bex.

Tassie, I was having a go at Diss - not you. You at least had the sense to agree to disagree. Let's just leave that there shall we?


That's your problem Phil - you can't agree to disagree.
You have to be right.

You've done nothing but prove that.


Pot - kettle - black.

That's all I'm saying to you.


I never claimed to agree to disagree, nor want to.

But if you can't agree to disagree then don't have a go at ME about it.
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Postby stan » Wed May 09, 2007 7:55 pm

smac wrote:And I was sitting in the Fitzroy thread with a few mates having a beer and watching strippers, while the action was over here!


Im there!
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Postby stan » Wed May 09, 2007 7:58 pm

PhilG wrote:
Dissident wrote:
PhilG wrote:
Coorong wrote:
PhilG wrote:And there won't be any action over there, Smac. Not from me anyway - I can't speak for you-know-who.


Bex powder, cup of tea....bit of a lie down and three weeks rest from the forum.. You will comeback just so full of enthusiasm.


Good advice, Coorong - why don't you take it? I hate tea and Bex.

Tassie, I was having a go at Diss - not you. You at least had the sense to agree to disagree. Let's just leave that there shall we?


That's your problem Phil - you can't agree to disagree.
You have to be right.

You've done nothing but prove that.


Pot - kettle - black.

That's all I'm saying to you.


Yeah ok i believe that. I reckon this thread will reach 10 pages :)
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Postby PhilG » Wed May 09, 2007 8:18 pm

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Postby Dissident » Wed May 09, 2007 8:29 pm

PhilG wrote:
Dissident wrote:I never claimed to agree to disagree, nor want to.

But if you can't agree to disagree then don't have a go at ME about it.


YOU are the one who can't do that - not me.

And that's the end of my participation in this thread.


Thank ****.


And Phil, next time you try to analyse what I've written - read it properly and don't reply to a distorted view of it, a la Phil's World.
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Postby PhilG » Wed May 09, 2007 8:42 pm

Dissident doesn't know the rules. The end.
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Postby Wedgie » Wed May 09, 2007 8:44 pm

No threats or shouting on this site please Phil.
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Postby Dissident » Wed May 09, 2007 8:51 pm

PhilG wrote:Except for this;

I READ WHAT YOU SAID AND DON'T YOU DARE MAKE THAT FALSE ACCUSATION EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!

Got it???????

:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:



I wrote :

What people tend to forget is, laying a good effective tackle IS A REWARD IN ITSELF. It stops play, ceases momentum and creates a new 50/50 contest. You don't have to be rewarded a free kick for a tackle to be worthwhile.


You wrote :

I tend to disagree with that, Dissident.
I personally feel that putting on a good tackle shouldn't automatically mean a holding the ball call.


I said that a tackle that doesn't get holding the ball is STILL a reward because it stops the other team. A good tackle doesn't have to be holding the ball. I NEVER said the reward was a free kick, I implied that the reward is YOUR team creating a 50/50 contest.


You disagreed, saying a good tackle doesn't have to be holding the ball. This is, exactly what I said. I have spend the last god knows how long trying to get you to see that, and you refuse.


You screwed up from the first bounce, Phil.
Read the above and tell me if I'm wrong.
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Postby spell_check » Wed May 09, 2007 9:29 pm

smithy wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Coaches, Players, Supporters, You, Me, In Fact Everybody Have Been BITCHING About Umpiring Standards For Ever And A Day. I Have NEVER Heard Anyone Ever Say The Umpires Have Had A Good Year, EVER, So Logic Tells Me That Not To Expect Any Change In The Next Few Decades So Everyone Out There GET OVER IT and GET USED TO IT............

As long as there are LOSING teams every week, there WILL ALWAYS be BITCHING about umpires.


Well done Jackpot.

the coaches exploit all the interpretations and are more to blame than the rules committee.


Exactly. The rules are made to try and bring the game to make it unique to other sports; an exciting game at that (well that's in principle anyway) :wink: but the coaches go to great lengths to do what you have said. It's not so much the umpires' fault (two field umpires would be better mind you), nor the rules themselves, but the coaches who try to take the rules apart.
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