by Macca19 » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:58 pm
by Lunchcutter » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:13 pm
Constance_Perm wrote:Indeed Selwood's form does appear to be ordinary ... One question I have however, is whether it would be that much worse than referring to Headlands wife/mum/girlfriend in the same manner, something that has been commonplace in footy for generations?
I'm not by any stretch saying it's acceptable, just wondering if it's that much worse than other things that have been said on the field in the last 100 years? (And I agree Wedgie, that the goalposts have shifted over the years and a bloke can't gain retribution as easily as before)
Constance_Perm wrote:much worse than referring to Headlands wife/mum/girlfriend in the same manner, something that has been commonplace in footy for generations?
by Lunchcutter » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:17 pm
by Aerie » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:37 pm
Dutchy wrote:Aerie wrote:If Headland is dumb enough to get angry over that, or even respond on field in the first place, no wonder he is a target. Yes, what Selwood did was stupid and he should cop whatever criticism and embarrassment comes his way, but geez, Headland should grow some thicker skin and respond in an appropriate manner.
Moral of the story - both Headland and Selwood are fu*kwits.
obviously not a parent Aerie?
by Il Duce » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:42 pm
Aerie wrote:Dutchy wrote:Aerie wrote:If Headland is dumb enough to get angry over that, or even respond on field in the first place, no wonder he is a target. Yes, what Selwood did was stupid and he should cop whatever criticism and embarrassment comes his way, but geez, Headland should grow some thicker skin and respond in an appropriate manner.
Moral of the story - both Headland and Selwood are fu*kwits.
obviously not a parent Aerie?
No I'm not, but that's not the point. If someone says something that is obviously not true, would you start laying into them with punches or would you say something along the lines of "that's my daughter you're talking about, you're a disgrace..." or just ignore them.
As CP mentions, family insults are one of the oldest tricks in the book. Selwood wasn't doing any harm to his daughter, he was clearly just trying to get Headland to react the way he did. IF Selwood said that directly to his daughter or in anyway that a family member was getting effected, then fair enough.
I'm not in anyway saying what Selwood did was ok, it's not, but Headland's reaction showed his character as well.
by Hondo » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:52 pm
by JK » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:57 pm
hondo71 wrote:Selwood was way out of line, but Chris Connolly would have preferred Headland keep it under control if it's gonna rub him out for 5 weeks.
Tony Antrobus used to get targetted when he was at North (and maybe in the AFL too) because he always reacted.
Have to say again .... I don't condone what Selwood allegedy said because, if it's factual, it's a disgrace. Unfortunately tho that's not a defence Headland can use as far as I am aware.
by Hondo » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:10 pm
Constance_Perm wrote:hondo71 wrote:Selwood was way out of line, but Chris Connolly would have preferred Headland keep it under control if it's gonna rub him out for 5 weeks.
Tony Antrobus used to get targetted when he was at North (and maybe in the AFL too) because he always reacted.
Have to say again .... I don't condone what Selwood allegedy said because, if it's factual, it's a disgrace. Unfortunately tho that's not a defence Headland can use as far as I am aware.
There have been rare instances in the past where "extreme provocation" has been successfully used as a defence, and at times has seen sentences reduced and in some cases suspensions not given when it seemed a fait accompli - Craig Bradley in the AFL and Michael Aish in the SANFL are two that readily come to mind (although these examples had vastly tidier records than Headland)
by Coorong » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:23 pm
by Dutchy » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:31 pm
by Il Duce » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:37 pm
Dutchy wrote:I cant believe you blokes are saying that he shouldnt have reacted to Selwood...the bloke allegedly said he has sex with his 6yo daughter and called her a slut...99% of the time you dont react to sledging but I think this is the exception, you cant let that one go through to the keeper....Im tipping a few of you blokes have never played the game...
by Hondo » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:57 pm
Dutchy wrote:I cant believe you blokes are saying that he shouldnt have reacted to Selwood...the bloke allegedly said he has sex with his 6yo daughter and called her a slut...99% of the time you dont react to sledging but I think this is the exception, you cant let that one go through to the keeper....Im tipping a few of you blokes have never played the game...
by sydney-dog » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:15 pm
by Thiele » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:21 pm
sydney-dog wrote:I spoke to a mate in WA today who is pretty close to the Freo scene
My mate advised the following
It is ALLEGED
Headland has a tattoo on his arm with his daughters name and birth date, Selwood seeing the Tattoo allegedly said I have F##ked her, Headland thinking Selwood did not notice the birth date responded "she is my 6 year old daughter", to which Selwood allegedly responded "I know, she is a slut"
I am not sure if this has been released thru media outlets, but it comes from a pretty good This info comes from a pretty good source
by sydney-dog » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:27 pm
by Mr66 » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:53 pm
Zorro wrote:hondo71 wrote:Wedgie wrote:Mr66 wrote:Headland should have turned around and told Selwood that his daughter is too old for him.
Is society/football becoming a little TOO sensitive.
Society/football has never put up with those sort of comments about one's 6yo daughter.
BUT one could agree that football has become TOO sensitive when it doesn't allow someone to thump a bloke for making such comments.
Agree 100% ... there is a line and if Selwood said that than he crossed it
Not much consolation for Freo or Headland tho if he is missing for 5 weeks
Obviously you don't have kids Mr66, or a daugher perhaps. If you do, you have a pretty relaxed attitude about it, so half your luck. If it were me I would've chased the mongrel out to the carpark to finish the job. Unfortunately for Freo, Headland's feelings on the matter are similar to mine.
Forget white line fever, that's taking gamemenship way too far.
by Dutchy » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:46 pm
by dinglinga » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:15 pm
by Aerie » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:19 pm
Dutchy wrote:If I was Hedland I wouldnt be too worried about being suspended...if you are ever going to be suspended at least he has a good reason unike many of the reports
by Dutchy » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:21 pm
Aerie wrote:Dutchy wrote:If I was Hedland I wouldnt be too worried about being suspended...if you are ever going to be suspended at least he has a good reason unike many of the reports
Pity he didn't get a real punch in then... and the guy who he lost 5 weeks for was laughing at him after the game. Yeah, wouldn't be worried at all, he came out a real winner.
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