Trade week disasters

[Hondo]

The pick 12 I mentioned is a slight red herring. The deal was:

Eagles gave pick 12 to Melbourne
Melbourne gave Thompson to the Crows
Crows gave Stenglein to the Eagles
Eagles gave pick 28 to the Crows

So the Crows got Thompson and pick 28 for Stenglein. I reckon we won that even though our pick 28 didn't work out.

Pick 12 was traded by Melbourne to Geelong for Brent Maloney
Geelong gave pick 12 to Richmond along with pick 16 to get Ottens
Richmond drafted Danny Meyer at pick 12 and Adam Pattison at pick 16.

I'd say Geelong and Melbourne won those deals at Richmond's expense. Meyer recently delisted from Port and Pattison was traded to St Kilda a few years later for pick 64 and then St Kilda delisted him one year later.

[Gingernuts]

Who did the Crows draft with those picks?

8: John Meesen (Geelong Falcons)
24: Nathan Van Berlo (West Perth)
28: Chad Gibson (Norwood)

1 keeper out of that lot.....

I would suggest if you put a list together of all of Adelaide's first round draft picks, it would make for very disappointing reading.

[Hondo]

It's interesting to trace these trades.

Our first round draft pick in Meeson was traded to Melbourne in 2007 for pick 38 which we used to draft Myke Cook. The same Myke Cook that was delisted yesterday

[Lightning McQueen]

It's interesting to trace these trades.

Our first round draft pick in Meeson was traded to Melbourne in 2007 for pick 38 which we used to draft Myke Cook. The same Myke Cook that was delisted yesterday

To their defence it wasn't a great draft, not many have gone on to be much, LeCras went at 37, Chris Knights #56, Stephen Tiller #54, James Gwilt #63 and Daniel Pratt #74.

[Hondo]

I have always thought that if you did a study and traced all the draft picks from the start all clubs would end up with a similar scorecard.

Clubs just need to get a good strike rate in a short span of time to make all the difference. Even if they then get them wrong for a few years afterwards so long as you can get 3-5 really good players out of 2-3 years of drafting I think that would be enough. It's not easy to do.

[The Sleeping Giant]

The only real guarantee in the draft is most of the time, you are fairly safe with the top 3 picks. After that, good luck.

Here's one. Mattner to Sydney for pick 28. Pick 28 to port for Symes. Pick 28 used by port for marlon Motlop.

[JK]

When evaluating trades that involve draft picks I wouldn't place any emphasis on the players selected with the pick .. TSG's previous post is a good example, as is Hondo's with the Crows Thompson-Stenglein trade.

[Lightning McQueen]

Who did the Crows draft with those picks?

8: John Meesen (Geelong Falcons)
24: Nathan Van Berlo (West Perth)
28: Chad Gibson (Norwood)

1 keeper out of that lot.....

I would suggest if you put a list together of all of Adelaide's first round draft picks, it would make for very disappointing reading.

Picked up James Sellar the following year at 14.

[Booney]

The only real guarantee in the draft is most of the time, you are fairly safe with the top 3 picks. After that, good luck.

Here's one. Mattner to Sydney for pick 28. Pick 28 to port for Symes. Pick 28 used by port for marlon Motlop.

Sydney get a 100 gamer.

Adelaide get a spud.

Port get whatever it is spuds grow in.

[JK]

The only real guarantee in the draft is most of the time, you are fairly safe with the top 3 picks. After that, good luck.

Here's one. Mattner to Sydney for pick 28. Pick 28 to port for Symes. Pick 28 used by port for marlon Motlop.

Sydney get a 100 gamer.

Adelaide get a spud.

Port get whatever it is spuds grow in.

It's the drafting that's the bigger problem, not so much the trading (although you could argue Mattner for Symes wasnt a winner)

[The Sleeping Giant]

When evaluating trades that involve draft picks I wouldn't place any emphasis on the players selected with the pick .. TSG's previous post is a good example, as is Hondo's with the Crows Thompson-Stenglein trade.

I would, if you have offloaded a proven player.

[JK]

When evaluating trades that involve draft picks I wouldn't place any emphasis on the players selected with the pick .. TSG's previous post is a good example, as is Hondo's with the Crows Thompson-Stenglein trade.

I would, if you have offloaded a proven player.

Separate issue, it's a drafting problem ... There's nearly always decent players left mid-late in the draft, they're just hard to pick - If a club selects a dud then I'd say it's a drafting issue.

[Dutchy]

As far as Adelaide goes the ones I can think of:

- Selling their souls for Wayne Carey & to a lesser extent Ronnie Burns (2002 I think??).

Daniel Wells or Carey?

[Q.]

As far as Adelaide goes the ones I can think of:

- Selling their souls for Wayne Carey & to a lesser extent Ronnie Burns (2002 I think??).

Daniel Wells or Carey?

If we're talking boxing, then Carey.

[The Sleeping Giant]

When evaluating trades that involve draft picks I wouldn't place any emphasis on the players selected with the pick .. TSG's previous post is a good example, as is Hondo's with the Crows Thompson-Stenglein trade.

I would, if you have offloaded a proven player.

Separate issue, it's a drafting problem ... There's nearly always decent players left mid-late in the draft, they're just hard to pick - If a club selects a dud then I'd say it's a drafting issue.

less chance if you don't trade a proven player for a lottery pick.

[GWW]

All clubs have their share of success stories and stuff ups. For every Wells/Carey story, theres a Hay or Thompson situation

[Dutchy]

Thompson?

[Hondo]

Thompson?

Do you think West Coast did better out of that trade than the Crows? Stenglein is now retired while Thompson is still going strong and is now arguably our best player.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Think Dutchy is talking about Nathan Thompson.

[Dutchy]

Think Dutchy is talking about Nathan Thompson.

Yep I think thats who GWW was getting at.

He was outstanding for the Roos.