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Re: Afl hall of fame

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun May 11, 2008 4:52 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:But that is the point isn't it? The AFL has recognised his prior history in Tasmania by inducting him. OR, they haven't and are basing his induction on 119 games of VFL.


Either they have, or they haven't. You can't have it both ways. We can't complain he has been elevated to Legenday status based on his 7 years with the Saints, and then at the same time complain they have taken his Tasmanian career into account. That just doesn't make sense.

For the record, I think you will find they have taken his Tassie career into account because they list 1961 All Australian as an achievement, and he was captain-coach of Tasmania at that time.

My point is we are always very quick to criticize Victorians for their lack of knowledge of SANFL footballers, but most South Australians wouldn't have a clue what people have achieved in Tasmanian football.

It reminds me of back in the 1970s, we whinged like stuck pigs about the Victorians "raping" the SANFL by taking our players, and yet we turned a blind eye to our clubs recruiting heavily from the WAFL and Tasmania. Total double standards.

Baldock played 397 senior games of football in a career spanning 20 years. His resume reads like a Whos-Who of Australian football, and yet someone on this forum queried his eligibility for Legenday status in the AFL Hall of Fame based on his 119 games for St.Kilda over 7 seasons.

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Re: Afl hall of fame

Postby Dogwatcher » Sun May 11, 2008 4:57 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:But that is the point isn't it? The AFL has recognised his prior history in Tasmania by inducting him. OR, they haven't and are basing his induction on 119 games of VFL.


Either they have, or they haven't. You can't have it both ways. We can't complain he has been elevated to Legenday status based on his 7 years with the Saints, and then at the same time complain they have taken his Tasmanian career into account. That just doesn't make sense.


I agree, I'm all for Baldock's inclusion. That's my point on this - when you put it that way, the majority of his football was played in Tassie, not Victoria. So they've taken his overall body of work into consideration. If it's good enough for a Tassie player's body of work to be included, why not Carey's?
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Re: Afl hall of fame

Postby Punk Rooster » Sun May 11, 2008 5:54 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:after visiting the site to check out who's who in the zoo, I arrived at the decision that there are too many Legends.

Darrel Baldock (St Kilda)

29/9/1938

Inducted: 1996

His skill with the football was unmatched. Could play at centre half-forward despite his small stature. Captained St Kilda to its only flag in 1966.

Playing career: 1962-1968

Games: 119 Goals: 237

Player honors: 2nd Brownlow Medal (equal) 1963, 3rd Brownlow Medal 1965; club best and fairest 1962, 1963, 1965; club leading goalkicker 1962- 1965; club captain; 1963-1968; premiership 1966; All-Australian 1961, 1966; St K Team of the Century (captain); Victoria (10 games, 23 goals).

Coaching record: St K 1987-89 (62 games, 18 wins, 44 losses)

Legend? No.
He went straight to Legend Status for what? Captaining St Kilda to a flag? (a miracle, I know...)
Take away the fluff/filler, & that's his achievement- apart from opunching above his weight as a CHF.


So you're basing your assessment of Baldock on his 119 games with St.Kilda only? To ignore his long and illustrious career in Tasmania makes you guilty of the same ignorance with which we accuse Victorians when it comes to the SANFL.

I was only doubting his Legend Status- not his HOF entry.
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Re: Afl hall of fame

Postby Magpiespower » Mon May 12, 2008 8:10 am

Flawed as the HOF is, at least the AFL honours the greats of the game in a fitting manner.

The '74 Socceroos can't even get a free ticket to the A-League.

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Re: Afl hall of fame

Postby hearts on fire » Mon May 12, 2008 4:43 pm

I am a HOF'er
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Re: Afl hall of fame

Postby MightyEagles » Thu May 15, 2008 7:10 pm

Remember everyone, it's not the AFL HOF, it's the Australian Football Hall of Fame. Just like there's the South Australian Football Hall of Fame not the SANFL HOF. If it's the AFL HOF, then why is Ken Farmer, Jack Oatey, Hydn Bunton Jr and others who never been apart of the VFL/AFL in it.
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