A sedulous analysis of Round 16

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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:39 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Gee the Bombers have had a rough trot with the umps from what I've seen

Only in the last 10 minutes of the game. They were pretty poor all day both ways though
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Bum Crack » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:52 pm

Cats need a big win next week. Can't see us losing another game but need to get the % up to make top 4. Actually quite confident if we meet the cows in finals which is a big possibility
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:02 pm

Jim05 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Gee the Bombers have had a rough trot with the umps from what I've seen

Only in the last 10 minutes of the game. They were pretty poor all day both ways though

Ok. I only saw bits and pieces and then watched the last 8 mins. Every time I tuned in there was a horrible decision that went against the Bombers.


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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby carey » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:13 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Gee the Bombers have had a rough trot with the umps from what I've seen

Only in the last 10 minutes of the game. They were pretty poor all day both ways though

Ok. I only saw bits and pieces and then watched the last 8 mins. Every time I tuned in there was a horrible decision that went against the Bombers.


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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Computer Crashed » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:29 pm

carey wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Gee the Bombers have had a rough trot with the umps from what I've seen

Only in the last 10 minutes of the game. They were pretty poor all day both ways though

Ok. I only saw bits and pieces and then watched the last 8 mins. Every time I tuned in there was a horrible decision that went against the Bombers.


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Umpiring at the moment is absolutely disgraceful across the board.

Because they have had to slot 9 newbies in, some of them still look as though they don't have to shave yet.
4 umpires on the ground and they are starting confuse each other, then they start shitting themselves.
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:32 pm

Computer Crashed wrote:
carey wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:[quote="mighty_tiger_79"]Gee the Bombers have had a rough trot with the umps from what I've seen

Only in the last 10 minutes of the game. They were pretty poor all day both ways though

Ok. I only saw bits and pieces and then watched the last 8 mins. Every time I tuned in there was a horrible decision that went against the Bombers.


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Umpiring at the moment is absolutely disgraceful across the board.

Because they have had to slot 8 newbies in, some of them still look as though they don't have to shave yet.
4 umpires on the ground and they are starting confuse each other, then they start shitting themselves.[/quote]
There was one in our game where Brown took a mark about 55m out and the Saints player clearly ran across the mark, the main umpire went to blow his whistle for a 50m penalty and then all 3 umps looked at each other and no one made a decision until the one furtherest from play called play on
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Spargo » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:04 pm

carey wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Gee the Bombers have had a rough trot with the umps from what I've seen

Only in the last 10 minutes of the game. They were pretty poor all day both ways though

Ok. I only saw bits and pieces and then watched the last 8 mins. Every time I tuned in there was a horrible decision that went against the Bombers.


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This^
So many facets of our game improve every year - umpiring has gone backwards IMO.
But the AFL continually spin it they're doing a good job.
The minute we gave them microphones & numbers on their back was the minute they're self importance skyrocketed.
Once they again realise we're here to see the players and not you, the better the game will be.
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:09 pm

I thought we all love how Razor tries to get amongst It with the players and how he just sets up the theatre of his decisions with that slight pause

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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:12 pm

Spargo wrote:
This^
So many facets of our game improve every year - umpiring has gone backwards IMO.
But the AFL continually spin it they're doing a good job.
The minute we gave them microphones & numbers on their back was the minute they're self importance skyrocketed.
Once they again realise we're here to see the players and not you, the better the game will be.


Couldn't agree more. Microphones off right now. Adds nothing to the game.

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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby bennymacca » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:21 pm

Spargo wrote:
This^
So many facets of our game improve every year - umpiring has gone backwards IMO.
But the AFL continually spin it they're doing a good job.
The minute we gave them microphones & numbers on their back was the minute they're self importance skyrocketed.
Once they again realise we're here to see the players and not you, the better the game will be.


I still think its ridiculous that field umpires arent fully professional.

If we expect them to make the best decisions they can, and we do, the AFL should give them all day every day to get better at it
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Spargo » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:26 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Spargo wrote:
This^
So many facets of our game improve every year - umpiring has gone backwards IMO.
But the AFL continually spin it they're doing a good job.
The minute we gave them microphones & numbers on their back was the minute they're self importance skyrocketed.
Once they again realise we're here to see the players and not you, the better the game will be.


I still think its ridiculous that field umpires arent fully professional.

If we expect them to make the best decisions they can, and we do, the AFL should give them all day every day to get better at it

None of them want to be full time.
Many are well paid professionals away from the AFL.
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby MW » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:28 pm

On the umps, the theatrics and pausing are controlled by the AFL so they are doing what they're told. Also if they are no longer micced, you'd not know what the free was for and would make it worse
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby bennymacca » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:52 pm

Spargo wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Spargo wrote:
This^
So many facets of our game improve every year - umpiring has gone backwards IMO.
But the AFL continually spin it they're doing a good job.
The minute we gave them microphones & numbers on their back was the minute they're self importance skyrocketed.
Once they again realise we're here to see the players and not you, the better the game will be.


I still think its ridiculous that field umpires arent fully professional.

If we expect them to make the best decisions they can, and we do, the AFL should give them all day every day to get better at it

None of them want to be full time.
Many are well paid professionals away from the AFL.


there are probably many players that could be well paid professionals too. pay them whatever it takes to be professional. 300k a year or something

goal and boundary im happy for them to remain semi-professional
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby saintal » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:09 pm

Saints got out of jail today. Steven and Membrey important in the lacklustre win.

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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby jackpot jim » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:15 pm

MW wrote:On the umps, the theatrics and pausing are controlled by the AFL so they are doing what they're told. Also if they are no longer micced, you'd not know what the free was for and would make it worse


The trouble is that the AFL have NFI what the viewers actually want.
Viewers dont want to notice the umpires but the AFL mike them up, put numbers on the back and get them to perform all sorts of theatrics to focus attention on them. Its sickening to watch !
Viewers dont need to hear the umpires explanation, its easy to determine what the free is for from their signals.

Players and viewers are sick of seeing players 1st to the ball pinged for HTB when theyve had NO prior opp and are told they made no genuine attempt despite the ball being held to them with 3 blokes on top of them.
Deliberate out of bounds interpretation is the biggest farce brought upon the game.
The other mystifying interpretation is the Blocking decisions, especially in ruck contests. Enough said, No one knows what the umps are thinking even after they try to explain it :roll:
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:19 pm

jackpot jim wrote:
MW wrote:On the umps, the theatrics and pausing are controlled by the AFL so they are doing what they're told. Also if they are no longer micced, you'd not know what the free was for and would make it worse


The trouble is that the AFL have NFI what the viewers actually want.
Viewers dont want to notice the umpires but the AFL mike them up, put numbers on the back and get them to perform all sorts of theatrics to focus attention on them. Its sickening to watch !
Viewers dont need to hear the umpires explanation, its easy to determine what the free is for from their signals.

Players and viewers are sick of seeing players 1st to the ball pinged for HTB when theyve had NO prior opp and are told they made no genuine attempt despite the ball being held to them with 3 blokes on top of them.
Deliberate out of bounds interpretation is the biggest farce brought upon the game.
The other mystifying interpretation is the Blocking decisions, especially in ruck contests. Enough said, No one knows what the umps are thinking even after they try to explain it :roll:


I reckon the holding the ball is a simple fix, only allow the person with the ball and one other, 3rd person in is a free kick against. I reckon most players are skilled enough to get the ball out if only one is holding the ball up. Will make it alot easier to determine if the player is trying to get it out
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:40 am

i still reckon the HTB rule/incorrect disposal is far better now than it was 2 years ago. Just need to get rid of the blatantly stupid calls.
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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Booney » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:56 am

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I can't think of one.


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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby kneedeepinthehoopla » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:15 am

saintal wrote:Saints got out of jail today. Steven and Membrey important in the lacklustre win.

Former Redleg Fantasia looks a good sort for the Dons.

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Re: A sedulous analysis of Round 16

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:13 am

kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:
saintal wrote:Saints got out of jail today. Steven and Membrey important in the lacklustre win.

Former Redleg Fantasia looks a good sort for the Dons.

Redleg or Blood?

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