Trade Week Talk

[Media Park]

O'Meara to GCS, GWS get first five picks...

GWS don't get the first 5 picks, they get pick 4. They already have picks 1-3 & 5.

Am I correct in thinking that GCS got the 1st pick in the mini draft and may not even pick Jaegerbomb O'Meara?

they got the first pick, but they'd be stupid to not get Jaegerbomb... (love the name BTW, Beefy!!!)

[RustyCage]

There is no difference between pick 8 and 13, let alone 28 and 33. Port should just stop trying to play hardball and do the deal.

Tend to agree, if they want him enough give it up!

Then again, WCE could just accept 33 considering there is not much difference between 28 and 33 and not lose him for nothing?

You don't give up a decent player with AFL experience who actively wants to come to your club just to save 5 places in the draft.

[Brodlach]

Since 2001

Pick 28
Mark Powell, Tristian Cartledge, Jay Nash, Chad Gibson, Matt Riggio, Chris Dawes, Marlon Motlop, Shaun McKernan, Mitch Duncan, Ryan Lester

Pick 33
David Rodan, Brad Murphy, Jed Adcock, Cain Ackland, Sam Gilbert, Jarryd Morton, Matthew Westhoff, Thomas Gillies, Anthony Long, Jeremy Howe

2007 was a bad one for Port, drafted Marlon Motlop with 28 and Matthew Westhoff with 33, both spuds who we finally see the back of.

Some handy players in there but no superstars. Duncan probably the best.

Matty Westoff

[Pup]

There is no difference between pick 8 and 13, let alone 28 and 33. Port should just stop trying to play hardball and do the deal.

Tend to agree, if they want him enough give it up!

Then again, WCE could just accept 33 considering there is not much difference between 28 and 33 and not lose him for nothing?

Why should we?

We have put 70+ games into us and was a first round draft pick who is going to be a very good player for Port and they expect to get him for this price because he has named Port as his preferred club.

I would prefer to see him go through the PSD and roll the dice with GC and GWS than let Port bend us over,

[CoverKing]

There is no difference between pick 8 and 13, let alone 28 and 33. Port should just stop trying to play hardball and do the deal.

Tend to agree, if they want him enough give it up!

Then again, WCE could just accept 33 considering there is not much difference between 28 and 33 and not lose him for nothing?

Why should we?

We have put 70+ games into us and was a first round draft pick who is going to be a very good player for Port and they expect to get him for this price because he has named Port as his preferred club.

I would prefer to see him go through the PSD and roll the dice with GC and GWS than let Port bend us over,

Look, i think he is worth way more then those picks. However the facts are, GWS and GC wont pick him up. You may aswell get something in return. He will simply have in his terms for pre-season draft that he will live in adelaide no matter who picks him up. port will get him unless crows offer pick 24 and ebert accepts that

[Hondo]

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

[CoverKing]

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

Thats it, the only time the seller wins is in cases where the player is still in contract, or it is the like of Chris Judd where everyone wants him and he is moving to melbourne, where there are numerous clubs to go to using the go home factor.

[valleys07]

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

Exactly right, wc need look no further than port and the nick stevens trade. Stevens wanted collingwood, port wouldnt budge, stevens entered the pre-season draft, went to carlton and port got jack. That still gripes me that we tried to play hard ball and got nothing.....still didnt matter as we won the flag the following year but still could have at least got a draft pick for him.....

[Pup]

Look, i think he is worth way more then those picks. However the facts are, GWS and GC wont pick him up. You may aswell get something in return. He will simply have in his terms for pre-season draft that he will live in adelaide no matter who picks him up. port will get him unless crows offer pick 24 and ebert accepts that

Yeah i know what your saying but he can't actually say i will only play in Adelaide if he nominates he can name a price but thats it. GC & GWS probably wont pick him up because they know he will leave after a year but its the principle. Port can not just say well we will get him in the PSD and expect we will roll over and take that. At least offer 28 FFS.

Typical Port offer Motlop and Pettigrew and Surjan who are all list cloggers and worthless (Bit harsh on Surj) and expect people to jump at it.

No thanks. Roll the dice Brad.

[Pup]

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

Thats it, the only time the seller wins is in cases where the player is still in contract, or it is the like of Chris Judd where everyone wants him and he is moving to melbourne, where there are numerous clubs to go to using the go home factor.

Judd nominated Carlton as well. Would have got even more if he didn't.

[Pup]

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

Exactly right, wc need look no further than port and the nick stevens trade. Stevens wanted collingwood, port wouldnt budge, stevens entered the pre-season draft, went to carlton and port got jack. That still gripes me that we tried to play hard ball and got nothing.....still didnt matter as we won the flag the following year but still could have at least got a draft pick for him.....

Bit different i think you got offered more than pick 33 in a weak draft.

And Collingwood are the worst team to trade with.

[valleys07]

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

Exactly right, wc need look no further than port and the nick stevens trade. Stevens wanted collingwood, port wouldnt budge, stevens entered the pre-season draft, went to carlton and port got jack. That still gripes me that we tried to play hard ball and got nothing.....still didnt matter as we won the flag the following year but still could have at least got a draft pick for him.....

Bit different i think you got offered more than pick 33 in a weak draft.

And Collingwood are the worst team to trade with.

True but the moral is we still got nothing in return for a good player, in which we could have at least got something had we not decided to be stubborn. A player will most of the time, find a way to his preferred club, either via a trade or PSD, so as a club that will be losing, wouldnt it be sensible to explore all options and press, however if it comes down to pick 33 vs nothing, take it?

[Lance's brother]

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

Exactly right, wc need look no further than port and the nick stevens trade. Stevens wanted collingwood, port wouldnt budge, stevens entered the pre-season draft, went to carlton and port got jack. That still gripes me that we tried to play hard ball and got nothing.....still didnt matter as we won the flag the following year but still could have at least got a draft pick for him.....

Well even though you didn't get anything, I think we can call that a win because Collingwood got what they deserved - nothing.

[CoverKing]

Look, i think he is worth way more then those picks. However the facts are, GWS and GC wont pick him up. You may aswell get something in return. He will simply have in his terms for pre-season draft that he will live in adelaide no matter who picks him up. port will get him unless crows offer pick 24 and ebert accepts that

Yeah i know what your saying but he can't actually say i will only play in Adelaide if he nominates he can name a price but thats it. GC & GWS probably wont pick him up because they know he will leave after a year but its the principle. Port can not just say well we will get him in the PSD and expect we will roll over and take that. At least offer 28 FFS.

Typical Port offer Motlop and Pettigrew and Surjan who are all list cloggers and worthless (Bit harsh on Surj) and expect people to jump at it.

No thanks. Roll the dice Brad.

Dont remember Josh Carr a couple of years ago? Nominated for Preseason draft and openly stated he is happy to play anywhere but he will be living in Adelaide. He ended up at Port, where he wanted to play.

In trades I reckon the seller always loses out somewhat to the buyer for the reason CoverKing says - you can play as hard ball as you like but sometimes it's a case of something being better than nothing.

Thats it, the only time the seller wins is in cases where the player is still in contract, or it is the like of Chris Judd where everyone wants him and he is moving to melbourne, where there are numerous clubs to go to using the go home factor.

Judd nominated Carlton as well. Would have got even more if he didn't.

Yeah i know, they both won out of that trade no doubt about that.

[the joker]

Since 2001

Pick 28
Mark Powell, Tristian Cartledge, Jay Nash, Chad Gibson, Matt Riggio, Chris Dawes, Marlon Motlop, Shaun McKernan, Mitch Duncan, Ryan Lester

Pick 33
David Rodan, Brad Murphy, Jed Adcock, Cain Ackland, Sam Gilbert, Jarryd Morton, Matthew Westhoff, Thomas Gillies, Anthony Long, Jeremy Howe

2007 was a bad one for Port, drafted Marlon Motlop with 28 and Matthew Westhoff with 33, both spuds who we finally see the back of.

Some handy players in there but no superstars. Duncan probably the best.

Matty Westoff

I know it's personal opinion. But theres no way Mitch Duncan is the best of that group. Chris Dawes is the second key forward in the best attack in the afl, Sam Gilbert had a bad 2011 but his two seasons before that were outstanding, Josh Gibson made the AA 40 this year and was unlucky too miss the 22. And Jed adcock has been a gun at Brisbane for a few years now and will be there next captain.

[CoverKing]

Since 2001

Pick 28
Mark Powell, Tristian Cartledge, Jay Nash, Chad Gibson, Matt Riggio, Chris Dawes, Marlon Motlop, Shaun McKernan, Mitch Duncan, Ryan Lester

Pick 33
David Rodan, Brad Murphy, Jed Adcock, Cain Ackland, Sam Gilbert, Jarryd Morton, Matthew Westhoff, Thomas Gillies, Anthony Long, Jeremy Howe

2007 was a bad one for Port, drafted Marlon Motlop with 28 and Matthew Westhoff with 33, both spuds who we finally see the back of.

Some handy players in there but no superstars. Duncan probably the best.

Matty Westoff

I know it's personal opinion. But theres no way Mitch Duncan is the best of that group. Chris Dawes is the second key forward in the best attack in the afl, Sam Gilbert had a bad 2011 but his two seasons before that were outstanding, Josh Gibson made the AA 40 this year and was unlucky too miss the 22. And Jed adcock has been a gun at Brisbane for a few years now and will be there next captain.

I agree with you, but its not Josh Gibson mate, its Chad Gibson, and i have NFI who that is. Adcock would be the best out of the lot IMO, then Gilbert, Dawes, Rodan and Duncan IMO

[Pup]

Dont remember Josh Carr a couple of years ago? Nominated for Preseason draft and openly stated he is happy to play anywhere but he will be living in Adelaide. He ended up at Port, where he wanted to play

Yeah i know, they both won out of that trade no doubt about that.

No doubt we both won out of the Judd trade but who knows what would have happened if he said i will go anywhere in Melbourne.

Josh Carr is a completely different kettle of fish, for one he was finished and played 19 games in 2 years so Freo were never going to get anything off value.

Ebert is a 21 midfielder with 70 games experience and 4 years of development. Totally different scenario.

[CoverKing]

Dont remember Josh Carr a couple of years ago? Nominated for Preseason draft and openly stated he is happy to play anywhere but he will be living in Adelaide. He ended up at Port, where he wanted to play

Yeah i know, they both won out of that trade no doubt about that.

No doubt we both won out of the Judd trade but who knows what would have happened if he said i will go anywhere in Melbourne.

Josh Carr is a completely different kettle of fish, for one he was finished and played 19 games in 2 years so Freo were never going to get anything off value.

Ebert is a 21 midfielder with 70 games experience and 4 years of development. Totally different scenario.

I understand that, but im just using the example with nominating for the PSD and stating where you will live.

If Judd nominated any club in Melbourne, WCE would have ended up with picks 1,2,3,4,5,6,7

[heater31]

I agree with you, but its not Josh Gibson mate, its Chad Gibson, and i have NFI who that is. Adcock would be the best out of the lot IMO, then Gilbert, Dawes, Rodan and Duncan IMO

Isn't Chad Gibson some spud the Crows drafted??

[Footy Smart]

I agree with you, but its not Josh Gibson mate, its Chad Gibson, and i have NFI who that is. Adcock would be the best out of the lot IMO, then Gilbert, Dawes, Rodan and Duncan IMO

Isn't Chad Gibson some spud the Crows drafted??

Chad was a tall athletic strong young footballer, like many had injuries and didnt make a debut.