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Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:45 am
by Booney
Why do I bother?

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:14 am
by am Bays
Booney wrote:Why do I bother?


Because you have good insight on most teams based on watching a fair bit of footy

My take is their planned structure for the year has been stuffed up by Tilthorpe going down and the forward structure now is up the sh!te.

The loss of Rahilley is being felt as last year crows went at 53% scoring efficiency inside 50, this year its 34% a 50% decrease

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:24 am
by Brodlach
They say they have had a change of mindset this week, it will be interesting to see if they change the way the have been playing

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:27 am
by mal
AB
Should we count the inside 50s conversions in the Gold Coast game that was played in the wet ?
Both sides kicked 8 goals each in very difficult scoring conditions
But do agree with you in the GE and FR games , and yes the loss of Tilthorpe has impacted


They are likely to improve that conversion rate when they play at Adelaide Oval
Did score a little better with 11-11 v Tom Stewart at Adelaide Oval

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:56 am
by dedja
Booney wrote:Why do I bother?


Dunno, perhaps the same reason some people don’t bother posting on the Port threads? :-??

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:39 am
by Under_Scrutiny
Dowling stiff not to get a run?

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:50 pm
by Booney
dedja wrote:
Booney wrote:Why do I bother?


Dunno, perhaps the same reason some people don’t bother posting on the Port threads? :-??


Maybe take a minute to read what's posted and whether it's taking the piss or trying to create civil discussion and then go shit in your hands and clap.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:12 pm
by dedja
WTF? :shock:

Jeez, R U OK?

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:43 pm
by stan
Booney wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:Milera season over, ruptured patella tendon.

Devastated for him, finally had begun to string together some strong games after the same injury a few years ago.. now setback again. :(

Crows best player.
They're toast without him.


Most important I think. Allowed Laird to move into the midfield a few years ago before he was injured then allowed Dawson to move in their when he came back in. You'd think one of them would have to go back into a back line that's devoid of any experience.

Worrell ( big fan of this kid, but probably playing taller than he should be given lack of big man depth ) Michalanney ( kid is a gun I think ) then Butts, Keane, Parnell, Nankervis and Smith who has had a howler of a start to his year. Smith is in that age bracket where the body can fail pretty quickly, at 32 and having had a major knee injury he might just be walking up to that wall. I wouldn't say he's hit it, but he's getting towards it.
Also don't forget that Walker has had a slow start to the season due to injury. Part od Adelaide's form last season was son the back of his outstanding season.

He has struggled so far and fair enough when your bot 100% fit. Also with Thilthorp going down and being with Murray and Butts for the first few weeks has had a major impact.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:45 pm
by stan
Brodlach wrote:They say they have had a change of mindset this week, it will be interesting to see if they change the way the have been playing
I think that's easier said than done, but I reckon they are a real chance tonight regardless. They'll be desperate and in front of a big home crowd, I reckon anything can happen.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:58 pm
by Dutchy
Adelaide have recruited to be a 6-10th type team for the next 5 years, I can't see them getting better than that considering most of their recent draftee's have now played a few seasons and we should now be seeing their potential.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:10 pm
by Booney
stan wrote:
Also don't forget that Walker has had a slow start to the season due to injury. Part od Adelaide's form last season was son the back of his outstanding season.

He has struggled so far and fair enough when your bot 100% fit. Also with Thilthorp going down and being with Murray and Butts for the first few weeks has had a major impact.


His 76 goals included 19 against West Coast, his numbers and therefore his return was slightly skewed.

I look more to Hinge whose form is way down and Murray ( inj ) from the back half, Keays and Jones has some really good patches in 2023 but again look off the pace and Dawson, last years best and fairest, is probably the only one from the top 10 last year really holding his form.

If 9 of last years best 10 are not going as well then there's a drop off on the books.

Jordan Dawson - 132 votes
Rory Laird - 115 votes
Taylor Walker 98 votes
Izak Rankine - 92 votes
Mitch Hinge - 92 votes
Lachlan Murphy - 91 votes
Brodie Smith - 87 votes
Chayce Jones - 80 votes
Ben Keays - 80 votes
Wayne Milera - 79 votes

( 3 games in we're judging harshly but their form can be judged I'm told )

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:51 pm
by wenchbarwer
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
Also don't forget that Walker has had a slow start to the season due to injury. Part od Adelaide's form last season was son the back of his outstanding season.

He has struggled so far and fair enough when your bot 100% fit. Also with Thilthorp going down and being with Murray and Butts for the first few weeks has had a major impact.


His 76 goals included 19 against West Coast, his numbers and therefore his return was slightly skewed.

I look more to Hinge whose form is way down and Murray ( inj ) from the back half, Keays and Jones has some really good patches in 2023 but again look off the pace and Dawson, last years best and fairest, is probably the only one from the top 10 last year really holding his form.

If 9 of last years best 10 are not going as well then there's a drop off on the books.

Jordan Dawson - 132 votes
Rory Laird - 115 votes
Taylor Walker 98 votes
Izak Rankine - 92 votes
Mitch Hinge - 92 votes
Lachlan Murphy - 91 votes
Brodie Smith - 87 votes
Chayce Jones - 80 votes
Ben Keays - 80 votes
Wayne Milera - 79 votes

( 3 games in we're judging harshly but their form can be judged I'm told )


Curnow also kicked 19 against the Eagles. Good players dine out on crap teams.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:29 pm
by whufc
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
Also don't forget that Walker has had a slow start to the season due to injury. Part od Adelaide's form last season was son the back of his outstanding season.

He has struggled so far and fair enough when your bot 100% fit. Also with Thilthorp going down and being with Murray and Butts for the first few weeks has had a major impact.


His 76 goals included 19 against West Coast, his numbers and therefore his return was slightly skewed.

I look more to Hinge whose form is way down and Murray ( inj ) from the back half, Keays and Jones has some really good patches in 2023 but again look off the pace and Dawson, last years best and fairest, is probably the only one from the top 10 last year really holding his form.

If 9 of last years best 10 are not going as well then there's a drop off on the books.

Jordan Dawson - 132 votes
Rory Laird - 115 votes
Taylor Walker 98 votes
Izak Rankine - 92 votes
Mitch Hinge - 92 votes
Lachlan Murphy - 91 votes
Brodie Smith - 87 votes
Chayce Jones - 80 votes
Ben Keays - 80 votes
Wayne Milera - 79 votes

( 3 games in we're judging harshly but their form can be judged I'm told )


Laird is going alright...averaging 28 disposals a game, 13 contested possessions a game which is considered elite. Only issue being is Laird being that accumulator he doesnt really determine the overrall teams performance. So much has to go right after he disposes of the ball for his possessions to have an impact.

I wouldn't have used the word vanilla but i don't think David King for once was too far off the mark. That combination of a midfield has a bit of a ceiling thats been reached imo.

Look at the current top 8 (admittedly only round 3) but they have a nice mixture of styles in their midfield. Freo probably being the closest look midfield to the Crows but lets see where Freo end up, they haven't played a side who has won a game yet. They also make up for a midfield who primarily accumulate with their half back line which is creating who amounts of run and penetration especially through Young who has also pinch hits in the guts to give them some edge.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:22 pm
by MW
I think at the moment this list needs to have no injuries, and everyone playing at their peak to be a 5th to 8th side. One or two key injuries and the domino effect occurs, trying to rob peter to pay paul plugging holes in the line up, and then the midfield panics and blindly kicks forward, and the defence rushes out of half back.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:57 pm
by amber_fluid
MW wrote:I think at the moment this list needs to have no injuries, and everyone playing at their peak to be a 5th to 8th side. One or two key injuries and the domino effect occurs, trying to rob peter to pay paul plugging holes in the line up, and then the midfield panics and blindly kicks forward, and the defence rushes out of half back.


If every side has no injuries, the crows would finish well outside the top 8.
They just don’t have the top end cattle like the good teams.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:49 pm
by Vamos
am Bays wrote:@Booney, time to be true to yourself and admit what your posts on this thread deep down truly reveal: https://crowsmembership.com.au/


Geez Man, your man crush is next level cringe :lol:

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:53 pm
by daysofourlives
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
Also don't forget that Walker has had a slow start to the season due to injury. Part od Adelaide's form last season was son the back of his outstanding season.

He has struggled so far and fair enough when your bot 100% fit. Also with Thilthorp going down and being with Murray and Butts for the first few weeks has had a major impact.


His 76 goals included 19 against West Coast, his numbers and therefore his return was slightly skewed.

I look more to Hinge whose form is way down and Murray ( inj ) from the back half, Keays and Jones has some really good patches in 2023 but again look off the pace and Dawson, last years best and fairest, is probably the only one from the top 10 last year really holding his form.

If 9 of last years best 10 are not going as well then there's a drop off on the books.

Jordan Dawson - 132 votes
Rory Laird - 115 votes
Taylor Walker 98 votes
Izak Rankine - 92 votes
Mitch Hinge - 92 votes
Lachlan Murphy - 91 votes
Brodie Smith - 87 votes
Chayce Jones - 80 votes
Ben Keays - 80 votes
Wayne Milera - 79 votes

( 3 games in we're judging harshly but their form can be judged I'm told )


Wow, i gave you way too much credit. No wonder nobody cares that youve taken your biased revues elsewhere. You really do have a very limited knowledge of the rest of the AFL. Hinge has probably been in the Crows best 4 or 5 players this year and Dawson has been absolutely shite, the worst player for disposal efficiency by foot in the whole competition prior to Thursday night.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:08 pm
by helicopterking
Trade first pick and Rachele for Lukosius.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:38 pm
by Vamos
helicopterking wrote:Trade first pick and Rachele for Lukosius.


Need Mids STAT.