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How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.

It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.

DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.

It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.

A bit like an apprentice?
Who work the same hours as qualified tradies do.

The ‘Apprentice list’!

DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.

It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.

Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.

Hector wrote:

DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.

It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.

Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.

Isn't it because the AFL makes clubs have a certain number of trades/retirements/delistings each year

Hector wrote:

DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.

It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.

Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.

But arent they delisting the old guys to make room on their primary list for a new 18yr old draftee? Probably better this way as the kid gets the main list spot and the old guys get a rookie spot

daysofourlives wrote:

Hector wrote:

DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.

It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.

Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.

But arent they delisting the old guys to make room on their primary list for a new 18yr old draftee? Probably better this way as the kid gets the main list spot and the old guys get a rookie spot

I could have this wrong but,........

I presume the old guy who once was pretty serviceable would request a higher salary than the 18 year old draftee.

Rookie list the old guy and his pay demand is minimal due to the rookie list rules, place the drafteee on your main list and you get them at a bargain price as well freeing up plenty of salary cap room for your better footballers.

whufc wrote:

daysofourlives wrote:

Hector wrote:

DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.

It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.

Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.

But arent they delisting the old guys to make room on their primary list for a new 18yr old draftee? Probably better this way as the kid gets the main list spot and the old guys get a rookie spot

I could have this wrong but,........

I presume the old guy who once was pretty serviceable would request a higher salary than the 18 year old draftee.

Rookie list the old guy and his pay demand is minimal due to the rookie list rules, place the drafteee on your main list and you get them at a bargain price as well freeing up plenty of salary cap room for your better footballers.

I'm not saying it's not smart, that's why clubs do it. But in this case, Hamill wouldn't be on that much coin anyway. The advantage the Rookie List provides is that he gets to keep having a crack but with an expanded list he would be doing that anyway without being screwed over financially.

Jack Hombsch elevated to a line coach

1. Gold Coast A
2. Geelong H
3. Fremantle A
4. Melbourne H
5. Carlton A
6. Essendon H
7. North Melbourne A
8. Port Power H
9. Brisbane H
10. Collingwood A
11. West Coast H
12. Hawthorn A
13. Richmond H
14. Sydney H
15. BYE
16. GWS H
17. Brisbane A
18. St Kilda H
19. Essendon A
20. Hawthorn H
21. Geelong A
22. Bulldogs H
23. Port Power A
24. Sydney A

Doubles: Port, Sydney, Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn, Brisbane

Pretty happy with our first two picks

Third pick I have no idea and he was so surprised he was selected he had no idea what was happening

Luke Pedler with a two year extension

Should make the position his own this year with McAdam gone.

Rate him highly.

Yep, good unit that one.

Needs to improve his kicking for goal and he'll own that small forward role.

I see him developing into the inside mid rotation (on the opposition go to) with rotation through the forwards in a defensive role over the length of this contract.

Not going to be the main inside mid but part of the 2nd/3rd rotation through the quarter

Rankine is the primary small forward trying to get the 30 odd goals a season

Another good Glenelg lad

He should be getting more midfield time in my opinion. I rate this guy, reckon he'll be a main part of their midfield going forward.

Let Rankine do his thing up forward and leave him there, could be a 50+ goal small forward in the seasons ahead.

Pedler, one of those footballers no matter who you support you can’t help but respect and like him.

Such a crucial part of the team, makes Rankine and Rachele so much better.

whufc wrote:Pedler, one of those footballers no matter who you support you can’t help but respect and like him.

Such a crucial part of the team, makes Rankine and Rachele so much better.

Is this a view of someone who watches Adelaide "Closely" or just another too much time in between sessions dribble. Drakes are hiring

Vamos wrote:

whufc wrote:Pedler, one of those footballers no matter who you support you can’t help but respect and like him.

Such a crucial part of the team, makes Rankine and Rachele so much better.

Is this a view of someone who watches Adelaide "Closely" or just another too much time in between sessions dribble. Drakes are hiring

Haha….. I do alright for a job mate

Surely you could understand the context of me not watching Port as ‘closely’ as someone like Booney who is at half their games, most likely looking at the forward set ups, looking at what happening up the ground, probably even watching a replay lol etc etc

Doesn’t mean you can’t comment however

Adelaide to play Port and West Coast in the preseason games