Port Adelaide Heritage Round Guernsey

[rod_rooster]

I do find all the media attention revolving a "Cornes" wearing the prison bar guernsey quite amusing. How quickly people forget that it was used against Carlton a few years back with the Cornes boys wearing it then.

[silicone skyline]

Typical case of the MAGPIES trying to run a NATIONAL franchise and stuffing it up with their narrowmindedness.
Imagine if Collingwood had the slogan, "The team for all victorians" or even better, "The team for all people who live in collingwood".
It's not all about YOU Port Adelaide magpies.
Stop thinking it is, or you will continue to struggle for membership like you are now.
What this guersney says is "We are proud to be the grown up version of the Port Adelaide Magpies and anything not port that built this side should be disregarded."
It's a disgraceful kick in the teeth for all the other SANFL clubs who helped them get to where they are.

[scoob]

[quote="silicone skyline"]Typical case of the MAGPIES trying to run a NATIONAL franchise and stuffing it up with their narrowmindedness.
Imagine if Collingwood had the slogan, "The team for all victorians" or even better, "The team for all people who live in collingwood".
quote]

Or a club song that says "We are the pride of South Australia"

[silicone skyline]

Indeed.

[Booney]

Typical case of the MAGPIES trying to run a NATIONAL franchise and stuffing it up with their narrowmindedness.
Imagine if Collingwood had the slogan, "The team for all victorians" or even better, "The team for all people who live in collingwood".
It's not all about YOU Port Adelaide magpies.
Stop thinking it is, or you will continue to struggle for membership like you are now.
What this guersney says is "We are proud to be the grown up version of the Port Adelaide Magpies and anything not port that built this side should be disregarded."
It's a disgraceful kick in the teeth for all the other SANFL clubs who helped them get to where they are.

Am I missing something? Where is it exactly that Port Adelaide lay claim to being the "Team for all South Australian's"? The inaccuracy is quite amusing.

Your ill-informed poorly thought out comment gives it no crdibility whatsoever.

Perhaps this week is all about heritage,one which you do not choose to recognise,but one that exists none the less.

[am Bays]

Magpies strip bad for Power - the Advertiser 05/07/2007

These former stars (who helped create Port Powers own traditions) make some interesting observations about the club attracting long term support...

I.e. distance itself from its magpie heritage....

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22019523-21545,00.html

[Booney]

Interesting reading.Josh and Roger's thoughts puzzle me somewhat,I thought they would have spent enough time at Alberton to have embraced what took place in 97,not deny it.

Would be interesting to hear what all current players think.

[am Bays]

Interesting reading.Josh and Roger's thoughts puzzle me somewhat,I thought they would have spent enough time at Alberton to have embraced what took place in 97,not deny it.

Would be interesting to hear what all current players think.

Maybe it all about survivng in the future. In the late 80s PAFC saw its future out of the SANFL hence its drive to compete on a national stage to attract sponsors...Maybe in the late 00s to be competitive on the national stage and attract sponsors it needs to distance itself from its Magpies colours and past....

Poor business and marketing sense to remain attractive to your exist power base at the expense of new markets and support. All business need to grow to survive bugger all chance of growing and surving whiile they cling to the past....Like it or not the AFL is a business in as much as it is about sport/footy

FWIW I hope they stay myopically attached to the past - one of the great sounds of winter is listening to Port supporters moan/winge about losing/umpires/the opposition/the ground etc when they do lose

pretty soon all they have will be to be proud of the past because if they cling to the black and white the future wont be too confident

[smac]

pretty soon all they have will be to be proud of the past because if they cling to the black and white the future wont be too confident

They pinched that saying from Salisbury Football Club too - at the time when Bob Clayton's sons were playing footy at Salisbury. Still pisses Dad off.

Back to the debate...

I find it fascinating that 2 past players feel that way. Interesting to note that they are non-Port SANFL players. Tredrea is a Port-SANFL player and has an opposing view.

Be interesting to hear the thoughts of someone like the Cornes brothers as they are non-Port SANFL players and have been around the Power for some time now.

[Rik E Boy]

Call yourselves Port and all you'll get is Port supporters. It aint Rocket Surgery!

regards,

REB

[am Bays]

It aint Rocket Surgery!

Glad you mixed that metaphor for the benefit of the Port supporters

[Hondo]

The more alarming stat in the article is Francou's statement that the split of kids supporting Crows to Power is 80-20

One generation down the track once all the SANFL-heritage supporters from the 60s-80s are gone (and their associations with non-SA based AFL teams), that could be the split among the football-supporting adults of that generation. I know some SA kids follow clubs other than Power-Crows (not many) and some others wear other team's guernseys at school because they look good, but that says the Power must work extra hard to build the support among the kids.

They are never going to attract new adult supporters who grew up hating them so the kids must be their target market. So, to me, wearing a PAM guernsey shouldn't impact who those kids choose to support as it's all before their time and, to them, it's just another heritage guernsey and so what?

Maybe this is something us adult supporters are over-complicating?

[alamodog]

Five weeks ago I wrote:
"Should the Power management be taking a more pragmatic view........create their own history and remove all barriers to their supporter base"

I feel vindicated with the comments of Francou and James.

All these two are saying is ...the 1977 magpies premiership is not the power heritage they want to be associated with. Can you imagine Stuey Dew celebrating that win...like hell.

I think this move by the Power is short sighted, unfortunate and arrogant.

Hondo:
The problem of match attendance is 'now' and a high proportion of kids barrack for teams their dad/mum did because that's who they were taken to see.

[Hondo]

Hondo:
The problem of match attendance is 'now' and a high proportion of kids barrack for teams their dad/mum did because that's who they were taken to see.

Yes I agree - Port's CEO has publicly said this is the one issue that keeps him awake at night - attendances and membership levels.

My comments were more refering Francou's comment about the 80-20 split among the kids which, if not addressed now by Port, will mean this problem will not get any better.

We were all assured that PAM had enough support for it's own AFL side but it seems the 6 year head start by the 'Team for all South Australians ' took more supporters out the equation than they predicted.

[Strawb]

correct me if i am wrong but Port Power was Port Adelaide SANFL? If we read what we are lead to believe that Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club is the new club and the Power is the old port Adelaide football Club. So what we are being told Port power has won 1 AFL flag and all Port Adelaide F.C premierships up until 1996 and after the Port Adelaide Magpies have won theie premierships after 1997.

[Barto]

It aint Rocket Surgery!

Glad you mixed that metaphor for the benefit of the Port supporters

It was as funny as a screen door on a battleship


Has the Port Power crews insistence on embracing the past Port Adelaide congruous with the drop in crowds? They actually sold out games in 1997 when they were trying to attract new people by looking to the future, now they struggle around the 25K mark for home games.

[Barto]

Magpies strip bad for Power - the Advertiser 05/07/2007

These former stars (who helped create Port Powers own traditions) make some interesting observations about the club attracting long term support...

I.e. distance itself from its magpie heritage....

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22019523-21545,00.html

"Of the coaching clinics we do, we estimate that there would be an 80-20 supporter split for the Crows ahead of the Power - and that's worrying," Francou, who played 156 games for Port from 1997-2006 and was runner-up for the Brownlow Medal in 2002, said.

That's an interesting comment. I would have guessed 70-30. Augurs badly for Port if that's the case.

In WA the split is more 60-40 and that's for an unsuccessful club like Freo who have a membership base of 43K. Yet a recent premiership club in Port is battling for numbers.

[silent hour]

The more alarming stat in the article is Francou's statement that the split of kids supporting Crows to Power is 80-20

If the reason what Francou and James are saying is true then why not let port power wear the prison bar guernsey every week!

[silicone skyline]

Am I missing something? Where is it exactly that Port Adelaide lay claim to being the "Team for all South Australian's"? The inaccuracy is quite amusing.

Your ill-informed poorly thought out comment gives it no crdibility whatsoever.

Perhaps this week is all about heritage,one which you do not choose to recognise,but one that exists none the less.

Yeah, how about you read about the past players opinions and take some "thought" from them?
What i said was on the money Booney, so you can play hide and go f##k yourself.
Don't question me.
Ill-informed?
I think you are the one who is ignorant.

[Hondo]

Yeah, how about you read about the past players opinions and take some "thought" from them?
What i said was on the money Booney, so you can play hide and go f##k yourself.
Don't question me.
Ill-informed?
I think you are the one who is ignorant.

Bit OTT S/skyline?