Tredrea back to the Magpies??

[Psyber]

And Replace Him With WHOM ?????

[Psyber]

Westhoff FF, White CHF, and find a ball winning midfielder to bring in. Replacing Thurstans at CHB needs considering too.

[the wonder elephant]

what would that make the combined weight of the forward line forward line be (hargs,tredas and clive ) hehehaha

[Magpiespower]

Replacing Thurstans at CHB needs considering too.

Wonder if Choco might try something out of left field and put Tredders at CHB for a bit?

If only to get his hands on the bloody ball...

[finn]

he's lost some pace - so why not try him one out at full forward like brisbane did with lynch?

[Hondo]

he's lost some pace - so why not try him one out at full forward like brisbane did with lynch?

It's a good idea but that same question was put to Tredrea by a caller on 5AA the other night. His response was that the game has changed even in the time he has been out but especially since the Lynch days. Basically, that Lynch-traditional FF role doesn't exist anymore is what he was saying so he can't just push back and camp in the goal-square anymore. May be one of the factors that have slowed down his progress this season - the forwards need to be much more flexible in where and how they play then 3-5 years ago.

[JK]

I'd stick with him now.

If they did keep him out of the side, perhaps look at using Brogan and DeLuca as the Ruck options and play Ladey as a permanent forward ... Kinda robbing Peter to pay Paul though and generally not the best tactic.

I'm actually surprised at the amount of attention he's received from the media ... I can appreciate that he was a premier performer as recently as 2 years ago, but it's not like he's the only one playing poorly - nearly every senior Power player is in the same category, Preter Burgoyne especially!

[sydney-dog]

History tells that Chocco does not have the nuggets to make such a big call at the selection table

[sydney-dog]

History tells that Chocco does not have the nuggets to make such a big call at the selection table

[hearts on fire]

Port have to gamble a bit and put Lade up forward every now and then to give them a big target and Westoff can take a grab aswell, so atleast they would have a few decent forwards to kick to and maybe get a few goals....

Who has been Ports highest goalscorer in a game?
Westoff would have to be up there with his 4 goals against Carlton.

I can't remember the last time any Port player kicked a bag of 6.

[Hondo]

Who has been Ports highest goalscorer in a game?
Westoff would have to be up there with his 4 goals against Carlton.

I can't remember the last time any Port player kicked a bag of 6.

Not sure about 1 game but for the season Port's leading goal-kickers in 11 rounds are:

Ebert 21
Rodan 14
S Burgoyne 13

.... and that's it until a group on 9 including Tredrea

Unfortunately that's a bit alarming for a top 8 side

And before anyone picks me up, no .... the Crows stats aren't much better. 4 players only in double figures ... Welsh 24, Bock 15, Perrie 15, Stevens 12 but at least they are key-position forwards

[PortAdelaideProud]

Port have to gamble a bit and put Lade up forward every now and then to give them a big target and Westoff can take a grab aswell, so atleast they would have a few decent forwards to kick to and maybe get a few goals....

Who has been Ports highest goalscorer in a game?
Westoff would have to be up there with his 4 goals against Carlton.

I can't remember the last time any Port player kicked a bag of 6.

Tredrea kicked 6 or more a few times during 2004. Had a bag of 8-10 against Carlton a long while back, think it was around 2000.

Mahoney kicked 6 against the Saints in the Anzac Day Weekend game last year. I think 4 is the highest that has been kicked in a game by a single player since then. A few times from Brett Ebert last year, I think Lade and White did it against Freo this year, and obviously Westhoff last weekend.

[Blue Boy]

Tredrea is a champion footballer and fella as well IMO.

Every one should get off his back as his injury was pretty bad and obviously needs more time to get back to his best.

If he needs to be dropped to get his confidence back so be it - but I think it would be to the powers detriment and not there benefit.

[sydney-dog]

Blue Boy, unfortunately once you put your hand up for selection you need to be held accountable for your performance, past credits or being a good fella does not hold much weight when your the Captain of the Club and you and your side are really struggling

my thoughts, Tredders is way too heavy, he is carrying too much bulk around his waist, butt and legs and he has lost all running and jumping capability

my advise, he needs to lose about 5-8 kg's, he needs to change his game style, he no longer can play a power forward role, the game is changing and he is being left behind, he needs to improve his speed and running capability and start to play more as a leading forward rather than a power forward...

unfortunately for Tredders, this opportunity will not come until next pre-season, until then I think he will continue to struggle

[Blue Boy]

Blue Boy, unfortunately once you put your hand up for selection you need to be held accountable for your performance, past credits or being a good fella does not hold much weight when your the Captain of the Club and you and your side are really struggling

my thoughts, Tredders is way too heavy, he is carrying too much bulk around his waist, butt and legs and he has lost all running and jumping capability

my advise, he needs to lose about 5-8 kg's, he needs to change his game style, he no longer can play a power forward role, the game is changing and he is being left behind, he needs to improve his speed and running capability and start to play more as a leading forward rather than a power forward...

unfortunately for Tredders, this opportunity will not come until next pre-season, until then I think he will continue to struggle

Probably has come back to early in hind sight - not his fault though.

[sydney-dog]

even so, I still believe this pre-season he needs to change is body shape and learn to play the game in a different role

[Hondo]

even so, I still believe this pre-season he needs to change is body shape and learn to play the game in a different role

There's a risk the game has left him behind. Given that he started life as a wing-man he should, in an ideal world, be able to adapt his game as required but it might be that his knee will know forwever limit what he can do from here on.

However, he is only 29 so you're right - a good pre-season and different preparation and he may be better prepared to play a Barry Hall-style role

[sydney-dog]

hondo71

totally agree, Tredderrs needs to lose some kg's and improve his running capacity so he can play more as a leading forward, your absolutely correct, Pav and Hall are good examples of the role he needs to play....

my view, he will continue to struggle through out the year, next pre-season is absolutely critical

[scoob]

Think we are being a bit harsh on the lad.... what preseason he did have was useless after having so much time off, any AFL player would struggle in same situation, I wouldnt have a problem with him playing AFL for the rest of the year and hopefully gaining some much need fitness and confidence by the end of the year... the port youngsters need some experience and older heads out there - as they are going thru this rebuilding stage.

[PortAdelaideProud]

I've been one of those people criticising Tredders, but I've come to realise that, even though he is not in the best shape and may still have some issue with his knee, his poor performance is not entirely his problem. It's been the players delivering him the ball that have been the problem. There have been many times when Tredrea has been on a good lead, yet has not had the ball kicked to him, and when he does get it kicked to him, he's being double teamed.

Tredrea has never been a quick player, but yes, he has slowed down a little bit because of that knee injury.

Also, some people tend to forget that he is coming back from surgery that is almost as bad as a knee reconstruction. How many players have come back the year after a re-con and dominate like they used too, especially the forwards? Not many, in fact, majority of players who have had re-cons struggle for a year, and the year after that, they get back to their old selves. A great example of this is David Rodan. He had a re-con, and struggled in 2006. This year, he is back to his old self.

I think the only type of players that may get away with having that down year after having a re-con are the smaller, lighter players, because they don't have so much pressure on the knee.

Even though the PAFC have said don't expect Tredders to be back to his old self until after the break, realistically, he won't get back to his old self until next year.

Now, as for his poor kicking, everyone knows he has never been a great set shot for goal. I think the only way he will become a consistent kick from a set shot is if he stops thinking so much, and just kicks it. All he needs to worry about is where to aim. Apart from that, just kick it.