whos SA's best footballer

[the joker]

Ebert: 451 games, 4 Magarey Medals, 6 best and fairests, 3 Premierships
Robran: 201 games, 3 Magarey Medals, 7 best and fairests, 2 Premierships.

Considering Robran's carreer was cut short, does that mean if he had played the same number of games as Ebert he could have won 7 Magareys, 18 B&F's, and 5 Flags

yeah that is the big question called have been australias greatest player of all time

[am Bays]

Tredrea was considered the best player in the AFL for quiet a while, so how you don't rate him as one of SA's best is beyond me. I think you should take those Glenelg glasses off.

by who when and how, (Rucci excepted).....

He has never been better than Hird, Voss, Brown, Carey, Buckley, Goodes, Judd, and to a lessser extent Wanganeen, Ruccitio, McLoed, Lloyd.....

He is good but never the best....

Take your glasses off mate....

[heater31]

PAP then how come port are looking to recruit Pavlich from Freo who plays a similar position to Tredrea. If Pavlich ends up at Port the Warren could be living on borrowed time.

Warren Tredrea has never been rated as one of the Best from SA in my eyes

[GWW]

smac there is a huge difference between legend (robran, ebert ect) and a good player in their own time (mcdermott). His best work has been done for charity and even that is a partnership, just like his footy. Great team player, but never the individual star of these other players.

brod

I think smac might have been referring to McDermott's columns he writes in the local newspapers here not his footballing career.

As for me, theres no doubt that Robran is the number 1 footballer from SA, with Ebert number 2. Its just about unanimous with SA football followers.

The other footballers, who i would rank slightly below would be Bob Quinn, Blight, Head, Farmer, Platten, Ricciuto, Wanganeen, plus a few more obviously.

[power01]

The question of who is/was the greatest is impossible to answer,sure Robran and Ebert where sensational but never really played at the best level (only ebert for a short time)............the players of today being VFL/AFL standard are a very different breed...........and its impossible and unfair to compare............who know how Robran would fair in the current AFL, sure there is no question if his brilliance but would he have been so dominate in the VFL/AFL and the answer is a definiate no...........as was the case with ebert (although i believe despite the bagging he recieved at North Melbourne he was the biggest possession winner for the period he played)..................

so the answer is dont know and dont really care as to truelly compare you must have an even playing field and with the examples provided so far that isnt the case............................


My vote for the greatest.........the legendary Magpies Winger and Good riverland Boy Bruce Light!!!!!....

[smac]

smac there is a huge difference between legend (robran, ebert ect) and a good player in their own time (mcdermott). His best work has been done for charity and even that is a partnership, just like his footy. Great team player, but never the individual star of these other players.

You have misinterpreted me brod.

Refer to: http://blogs.news.com.au/adelaidenow/guestblogger/index.php/adelaidenow/comments/is_mark_ricciuto_the_greatest_ever to put my comment into context.

[brod]

Yeah, fair enough. Feel like a bit if a tit after reading that. Taken back smac!!

[Ian]

who know how Robran would fair in the current AFL, sure there is no question if his brilliance but would he have been so dominate in the VFL/AFL and the answer is a definiate no.....

Maybe, maybe not, 1972 champions of Aust final, he left Victoria's best applauding him as he ran rings around them on Adelaide oval

From http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/north_adelaide's_finest_hour.htm#Match%20Summary

From 'Inside Football's' Football Close-up 1973


North Adelaide champion Barrie Robran, best afield in the 1972 SANFL grand final, and in both matches in the Champions series.

North Adelaide, coached by former Richmond stalwart Mike Patterson, came from behind into a five goal wind to beat Carlton by a solitary point.

Carlton was depleted, no doubt - and with its six missing grand final stars in the team probably would've beaten North by a couple of goals.

But the way North swamped the Blues in that torrid last quarter (it held Carlton scoreless for the last 12 minutes), showed that SA was capable of pressure football. Even if it took an ex-Victorian to make the point.

Patterson, who played 167 games for Richmond, says that (Barrie) Robran is the best player he's ever seen. Jesaulenko is reputed to have stood and clapped after a piece of Robran wizardry during (this) match.

A dual Magarey Medallist and winner of just about every award, Robran is not vaguely interested in playing VFL football.

[smac]

Yeah, fair enough. Feel like a bit if a tit after reading that. Taken back smac!!

No sweat mate, for what it's worth, I reckon Robran leaves all for dead and probably will for quite some time. The different eras (pre AFL, post AFL) make it hard to judge though.

[Psyber]

Ron Kneebone worth a mention ?? A Magarey from Fullback I think.

[jackpot jim]

Tredrea was considered the best player in the AFL for quiet a while, so how you don't rate him as one of SA's best is beyond me. I think you should take those Glenelg glasses off.

by who when and how, (Rucci excepted).....

He has never been better than Hird, Voss, Brown, Carey, Buckley, Goodes, Judd, and to a lessser extent Wanganeen, Ruccitio, McLoed, Lloyd.....

He is good but never the best....

Take your glasses off mate....

2004.... Tredrea won just about every Media award in SA and VIC and was a raging 2/1 fav for the Brownlow, that would suggest that just about everyone agreed that Tredders was the BEST player that season except the umpires who struggle with the rules of the game let alone judging players performances. If Tredrea was a Victorian, he would've been talked about in the same light as Carey.

[Hasbeen]

[quote="power01"]The question of who is/was the greatest is impossible to answer,sure Robran and Ebert where sensational but never really played at the best level (only ebert for a short time)............the players of today being VFL/AFL standard are a very different breed...........and its impossible and unfair to compare............who know how Robran would fair in the current AFL, sure there is no question if his brilliance but would he have been so dominate in the VFL/AFL and the answer is a definiate no...........as was the case with ebert (although i believe despite the bagging he recieved at North Melbourne he was the biggest possession winner for the period he played).. ]

Yes Ebert had to get the ball himself as they wouldnt kick it to a SA boy and still dominated. Graeme Cornes went there too but didnt have the impact of Ebert. He would have still been a great player in todays AFL along with Robran, but its very hard to compare todays stars with Ebert and Robran.

[am Bays]

Tredrea was considered the best player in the AFL for quiet a while, so how you don't rate him as one of SA's best is beyond me. I think you should take those Glenelg glasses off.

by who when and how, (Rucci excepted).....

He has never been better than Hird, Voss, Brown, Carey, Buckley, Goodes, Judd, and to a lessser extent Wanganeen, Ruccitio, McLoed, Lloyd.....

He is good but never the best....

Take your glasses off mate....

2004.... Tredrea won just about every Media award in SA and VIC and was a raging 2/1 fav for the Brownlow, that would suggest that just about everyone agreed that Tredders was the BEST player that season except the umpires who struggle with the rules of the game let alone judging players performances. If Tredrea was a Victorian, he would've been talked about in the same light as Carey.

Are you saying McDermott was the best player in SA in 1988 becasue he won virtually every media award or was it Whittlesea, Hodges. Phillips or Mcintosh?? Media awards mean virtually naff all especially when a bloke as biased as Rucci is voting towards tehn. In 2004 Trdrea wasn't even teh best forward in teh compeititon...that was Jonathon Brown can be the best player if you not the best player in your position....

As I said Trdrea is good, but he has never been teh best.

[Gravel]

1980 - Tredrea won the 2004 coaches player of the year award - most would respect their collective opinion ? He was also named CHF in the All Australian team and vice captain. J Brown had/has the biggest impact on individual games, but Tredrea was the more consistent as evidenced by the above awards.

[RoosterMarty]

One dominant year where he won all the awards doesn't mean he was "the best AFL footballer for quite some time" and it doesn't mean he is comparable to some of the greatest footballers this state has produced.

[the joker]

One dominant year where he won all the awards doesn't mean he was "the best AFL footballer for quite some time" and it doesn't mean he is comparable to some of the greatest footballers this state has produced.

very good comment marty. and its right how can you compare almost winning the brownlow or winning 3 or 4 magareys

[the joker]

Joker, unless you are Chris McDermott, I suggest you credit his work...

read the bottom of the first post i wrote this is an article from the advertiser and would like to get the rest of your thaugts

[Aerie]

Many say Bob Hank was the best footballer up until his time so he would have to be considered.

It's a tough one, but all I'll say is a champion from any era would be a champion in any other era.

Ricciuto would easily be the best South Aussie footballer of this generation and fwiw is the best Crows player of all time. He is a champion.

[scoob]

Many say Bob Hank was the best footballer up until his time so he would have to be considered.

It's a tough one, but all I'll say is a champion from any era would be a champion in any other era.

Ricciuto would easily be the best South Aussie footballer of this generation and fwiw is the best Crows player of all time. He is a champion.

Great Player, No Doubt... but the word 'champion' get thrown around alot these days....

[Aerie]

Many say Bob Hank was the best footballer up until his time so he would have to be considered.

It's a tough one, but all I'll say is a champion from any era would be a champion in any other era.

Ricciuto would easily be the best South Aussie footballer of this generation and fwiw is the best Crows player of all time. He is a champion.

Great Player, No Doubt... but the word 'champion' get thrown around alot these days....

It does, but Ricciuto is one who can certainly claim it. He would be comfortably up there with the best this state has produced IMO.