God Help the AFL.............

[Dutchy]

LOL - I think Geelong might be staying right where they are!!!...classic humour

[smithy]

LOL - I think Geelong might be staying right where they are!!!...classic humour

That's what I said.

OK Dutchy, Do you think there are too many teams in Melbourne ?

[mighty_tiger_79]

LOL - I think Geelong might be staying right where they are!!!...classic humour

That's what I said.

OK Dutchy, Do you think there are too many teams in Melbourne ?[/quote

thats why the KANGA's are moving to the gold coast

[Dogwatcher]

Well...if they are, I wish they'd hurry up and do it!

[McAlmanac]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

As for the rest, like I said pick 3 of them to move to other parts of the country because YOu agreed Melbourne can't sustain that many clubs.

I think if you lived in Melbourne, you would realise how much that would damage the game. Alienation of the biggest marketplace is not the way to run a sport.

[rod_rooster]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

I'd like to know the reasons you think Carlton are un-moveable but Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, St. Kilda, North Melbourne and Footscray are? What is it that Carlton has that separates it from this group?

[Dutchy]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

I'd like to know the reasons you think Carlton are un-moveable but Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, St. Kilda, North Melbourne and Footscray are? What is it that Carlton has that separates it from this group?

They are his team....

[smithy]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

I'd like to know the reasons you think Carlton are un-moveable but Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, St. Kilda, North Melbourne and Footscray are? What is it that Carlton has that separates it from this group?

Massive supporter base, equal most successful club in history, only had 4 bad years in how long?? and that is now..

The other clubs I mentioned have been poor/very poor for extended periods.

What's your team Rod ?

[smithy]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

I'd like to know the reasons you think Carlton are un-moveable but Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, St. Kilda, North Melbourne and Footscray are? What is it that Carlton has that separates it from this group?

They are his team....

Thanks for answering the question Dutchy.......


I'll type it bigger so you don't miss it this time..

DO YOU THINK THERE IS TOO MANY TEAMS IN MELBOURNE...........YES OR NO ?

[smithy]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

As for the rest, like I said pick 3 of them to move to other parts of the country because YOu agreed Melbourne can't sustain that many clubs.

I think if you lived in Melbourne, you would realise how much that would damage the game. Alienation of the biggest marketplace is not the way to run a sport.

I've lived in Victoria McAl and quite frankly their attitude backs up my attitude why I couldn't give a shit if 3-4 of their teams went to Dubai.

[JK]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

As for the rest, like I said pick 3 of them to move to other parts of the country because YOu agreed Melbourne can't sustain that many clubs.

I think if you lived in Melbourne, you would realise how much that would damage the game. Alienation of the biggest marketplace is not the way to run a sport.

I've lived in Victoria McAl and quite frankly their attitude backs up my attitude why I couldn't give a shit if 3-4 of their teams went to Dubai.

Still a bit too close

[rod_rooster]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

I'd like to know the reasons you think Carlton are un-moveable but Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, St. Kilda, North Melbourne and Footscray are? What is it that Carlton has that separates it from this group?

Massive supporter base, equal most successful club in history, only had 4 bad years in how long?? and that is now..

The other clubs I mentioned have been poor/very poor for extended periods.

What's your team Rod ?

Carlton has had more than 4 bad years. How do you define success? It's not the VFL anymore Smithy. A massive supporter base is what West Coast, Adelaide etc have not a suburban Victorian side who is living in the past. Carlton only exists still because the AFL bailed them out. My team is Hawthorn by the way. We have had our share of hard times but we've never needed the AFL to keep us alive. We've also been making some tough but proactive decisions in the past 10 years not only to survive but grow as a club.

[smithy]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

I'd like to know the reasons you think Carlton are un-moveable but Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, St. Kilda, North Melbourne and Footscray are? What is it that Carlton has that separates it from this group?

Massive supporter base, equal most successful club in history, only had 4 bad years in how long?? and that is now..

The other clubs I mentioned have been poor/very poor for extended periods.

What's your team Rod ?

Carlton has had more than 4 bad years. How do you define success? It's not the VFL anymore Smithy. A massive supporter base is what West Coast, Adelaide etc have not a suburban Victorian side who is living in the past. Carlton only exists still because the AFL bailed them out. My team is Hawthorn by the way. We have had our share of hard times but we've never needed the AFL to keep us alive. We've also been making some tough but proactive decisions in the past 10 years not only to survive but grow as a club.

I'm backing that Carlton have more supporters than Adelaide and West Coast.
Carlton only exist because the AFL bailed them out??? Utter garbage, they would of got the money from somewhere else.

[rod_rooster]

In my opinion, the only VIC clubs that are un-moveable are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and Geelong.

I'd like to know the reasons you think Carlton are un-moveable but Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, St. Kilda, North Melbourne and Footscray are? What is it that Carlton has that separates it from this group?

Massive supporter base, equal most successful club in history, only had 4 bad years in how long?? and that is now..

The other clubs I mentioned have been poor/very poor for extended periods.

What's your team Rod ?

Carlton has had more than 4 bad years. How do you define success? It's not the VFL anymore Smithy. A massive supporter base is what West Coast, Adelaide etc have not a suburban Victorian side who is living in the past. Carlton only exists still because the AFL bailed them out. My team is Hawthorn by the way. We have had our share of hard times but we've never needed the AFL to keep us alive. We've also been making some tough but proactive decisions in the past 10 years not only to survive but grow as a club.

I'm backing that Carlton have more supporters than Adelaide and West Coast.
Carlton only exist because the AFL bailed them out??? Utter garbage, they would of got the money from somewhere else.

LMAO, more supporters than Adelaide or West Coast I guess you will point to those that say they support but don't buy memberships. If you go by that then Sydney has by far the biggest supporter base. Still even then Adelaide and West Coast would be well ahead of Carlton.

Where else would the money have come from by the way? All those supporters that don't care enough to fork out for a membership perhaps?

[Dutchy]

Smithy has lost it...Carlton at the moment are in negotiations with their bank to forgive some of their debt...I would have thought that if they could get the money to pay off the debt they would have done it rather than go to the Bank and plead for debt fogiveness!!!!

[smac]

Smithy has lost it...Carlton at the moment are in negotiations with their bank to forgive some of their debt...I would have thought that if they could get the money to pay off the debt they would have done it rather than go to the Bank and plead for debt fogiveness!!!!

I don't know about that - I may just head to the bank now and ask them to forgive my mortgage. Sounds better than paying it - no matter the source of funds!

[Dutchy]

Smithy has lost it...Carlton at the moment are in negotiations with their bank to forgive some of their debt...I would have thought that if they could get the money to pay off the debt they would have done it rather than go to the Bank and plead for debt fogiveness!!!!

I don't know about that - I may just head to the bank now and ask them to forgive my mortgage. Sounds better than paying it - no matter the source of funds!

it does happen at the higher end of the scale, trust me I know what Im talking about here....in fact I dont know the details but I believe Geelong had a similar deal a few years back...and look at them now

[Dutchy]

Here we go -

AFL to help Carlton restructure debt

News
THE AFL has announced that the Carlton Football Club will restructure its debt with assistance from the AFL, which will save the club about $250,000 in interest repayments over the next 12 months.

AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou, in detailing the change, said, "This is part of a wider package of financial advice and support that we are providing to Carlton, and we welcomed the opportunity to work with the Carlton Board and management to produce a significant improvement to the club's balance sheet."

Carlton chairman Richard Pratt commented that, "We appreciate the assistance of the AFL in restructuring our debt, and I would also like to acknowledge the Business Banking team at NAB who facilitated the completion of these new arrangements and will continue to provide banking services for the Carlton Football Club.

"This change produces a substantial reduction in the yearly cost of interest payments to service our debt, and will contribute to our efforts to return the club to profitability"

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[Aerie]

What exactly does the current administration of the AFL hope to achieve?

They have talked about wanting a team on the Gold Coast and Western Sydney in the future. Yes, this would be great if all went to plan. I'm not sure of their thoughts on Tasmania. It does not appear there are any thoughts on Canberra or Darwin or a 3rd team in Perth. It does not appear there are thoughts on a team from outside of Australia. These are the only possible future expansion areas as far as I'm aware.

Do they want to keep all current clubs in Victoria, in Victoria? If not, why are they helping the strugglers stay afloat? If they become strong they're not going to be leaving Victoria. It would appear they would prefer if a Victorian club voluntarily relocated, or are they happy having various clubs playing various games in places such as the Gold Coast, Brisbane, Canberra, Launceston and Darwin without really involving the locals?

What about the competition. They have a salary cap and draft to keep things even, yet the program is not fair. Some teams play each other twice and others once and some teams give up home ground advantage just to stay alive. How many teams do they want? In a perfect world, what would the competition look like and how would it be structured?

I wish the AFL would make public their intentions because at the moment it seems like they are just patching things up and trying to please everybody without really moving forward.