Bomber Thompson and Frank Costa

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Postby Footy Chick » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:57 pm

sydney-dog wrote:it's only round 3

lets be fair and realistic and judge make judgement after the season


Nahhh

The Cats are the best starters in a season and the worst finishers...I'd give it till round 12 when the normal down hill slide takes place, then watch the knives come out yet again... :axe:
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Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:20 pm

Falcon Chick wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:it's only round 3

lets be fair and realistic and judge make judgement after the season


Nahhh

The Cats are the best starters in a season and the worst finishers...I'd give it till round 12 when the normal down hill slide takes place, then watch the knives come out yet again... :axe:


I'll say you've got an idiot problem. Hands off the Cats :x

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Postby Hondo » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:15 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
hondo71 wrote:It's easy to say if you don't win the GF you're not fussed if you come 2nd or 16th. But when you get in the argument at the pub, I'd rather be defending my team that came 2nd against the guy who finished last.

On the subject of needing to finish close to the bottom to get the early draft picks necessary to win a GF down the track, here are Sydney's ladder placings at the end of the minor round (couldn't quickly find the final placings but you get my drift - damn AFL Stats page) in the 9 seasons leading up to their 2005 premiership.

1996 1st
1997 6th
1998 3rd
1999 8th
2000 10th
2001 7th
2002 11th
2003 4th
2004 6th

I know you can get stats to tell whatever story you want, but here's one club that's shown that you don't necessarially need to bottom out in the sewer to build a premiership contender.


*cough* additional salary cap!

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OK then, how about the Crows. 7 finals appearances in the last 10 seasons and hopefully again this year. And Port Adelaide, 6 finals appearances in the same time after receiving the worst concessions of any expansion team. No "bottoming out" needed for South Australian teams :wink: Fair call on the salary cap concessios for Sydney tho.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:45 am

The Crows have enormous resources that are the envy of the majority of the Victorian clubs (certainly my mob) and while there is a salary cap for players this does not extend to support staff so this gives Adelaide an advantage over other clubs in my view. The Adelaide Football Co-orporation is very professionaly run and full credit to them for doing so. It is up to the Vic clubs to raise the bar to get to that level and attempt to emulate what Adelaide is doing that they are not, especially in the area of off field preparation as the Crows are innovative and extremely well coached in my view.

As for Port Adelaide, while their supporters might be dumb as a post (except for Booney :wink: ), their administration is I believe, the best in the league. While I hate these blokes with a passion you can't deny they have some of the smartest blokes in the business about the place and are fantastic at spotting and developing young talent and recruit extremely well.

You're right hondo. SA clubs don't need to bottom out but if there were four clubs in SA, maybe one or two of them might have to.

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Postby Hondo » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:07 am

Rik E Boy wrote:The Crows have enormous resources that are the envy of the majority of the Victorian clubs (certainly my mob) and while there is a salary cap for players this does not extend to support staff so this gives Adelaide an advantage over other clubs in my view. The Adelaide Football Co-orporation is very professionaly run and full credit to them for doing so. It is up to the Vic clubs to raise the bar to get to that level and attempt to emulate what Adelaide is doing that they are not, especially in the area of off field preparation as the Crows are innovative and extremely well coached in my view.

As for Port Adelaide, while their supporters might be dumb as a post (except for Booney :wink: ), their administration is I believe, the best in the league. While I hate these blokes with a passion you can't deny they have some of the smartest blokes in the business about the place and are fantastic at spotting and developing young talent and recruit extremely well.

You're right hondo. SA clubs don't need to bottom out but if there were four clubs in SA, maybe one or two of them might have to.

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Some good tips there for any Victoria clubs reading this ...

And you hit the nail on the head at the end REB - too many teams in 1 city
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Postby sydney-dog » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:40 pm

hmmmm like I said, let's wait until the end of year to judge all clubs, it's just stupidity to make any judgement on a coach, players or team this early in the season

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I agree with your comments i regards to the resources available to the crows, well the first step is to reduce the amount of teams in Victoria
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Re: Bomber Thompson and Frank Costa

Postby Sojourner » Mon May 14, 2007 10:08 pm

Sojourner wrote:It is still very early days at this stage, yet at the end of last year, Cats president Frank Costa had to fight tooth and nail to keep coach Bomber Thompson for another year at Geelong, as a result rumours abounded that both Costa and Thompson would be getting the sack together at the end of this season.

Where are their detractors now?

When a club is really struggling it is interesting to note that it is usually the coaches head that is called for by the supporters, assistant coaching and recruiting staff dont face anything like the same pressure. Maybe a clubs problems can be solved by retaining the coach when the club is struggling. Hopefully Frank Costa will be proved right and Bomber Thompson will become a good example of my theory! :D


I wonder how many are still calling for the head of Frank Costa and Bomber Thompson?
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Postby McAlmanac » Tue May 15, 2007 12:43 am

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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue May 15, 2007 8:29 am

If we play consistent footy for the rest of the year, then I'll rate Thompson. If Bomber comes up with a plan to counter an opposition coaches' tactics, then I'll rate Thompson. If Bomber can successfully motivate this puzzling playing group then I'll rate Thompson.

None of these things are happening just yet.

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Postby Sojourner » Tue May 15, 2007 11:11 am

Rik E Boy wrote:If we play consistent footy for the rest of the year, then I'll rate Thompson. If Bomber comes up with a plan to counter an opposition coaches' tactics, then I'll rate Thompson. If Bomber can successfully motivate this puzzling playing group then I'll rate Thompson.

None of these things are happening just yet.

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How do you rate Costa?
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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue May 15, 2007 11:25 am

No problems with the Catters off field. Costa is loyal and shrewd. It is onfield where our problems lie.

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