HOLLAND/MONTGOMERY disgrace.

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Postby Punk Rooster » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:39 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:This will please the mob justice mentality, including the low I.Q.
Who here (some intelligence required) feels that the bump was worth 5 games? A bump ffs, not a raised elbow, snipe behind play, but a bump.
F**k the AFL & it's PLayschool Tribunal.

Open season for those who get their rocks off of on Collingwood being persecuted....


No it wasn't a snipe behind the play, it was a snipe next to the play. You cab't just clean someone up when they are not a part of the play. You might as well go line up someone whos sitting on the bench. At least they'd be able to see you coming.

So why is Graeme Yeats a legend, & the '89 GF footage the most revered?
It's because he delivered a a decent hip & shoulder off the ball.
The current bunch of sooky-sooky-la-la's are trying to get rid of the shirtfront.
Ask Byron Pickett what he thinks of the rules...
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Postby JK » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:49 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:This will please the mob justice mentality, including the low I.Q.
Who here (some intelligence required) feels that the bump was worth 5 games? A bump ffs, not a raised elbow, snipe behind play, but a bump.
F**k the AFL & it's PLayschool Tribunal.

Open season for those who get their rocks off of on Collingwood being persecuted....


No it wasn't a snipe behind the play, it was a snipe next to the play. You cab't just clean someone up when they are not a part of the play. You might as well go line up someone whos sitting on the bench. At least they'd be able to see you coming.

So why is Graeme Yeats a legend, & the '89 GF footage the most revered?
It's because he delivered a a decent hip & shoulder off the ball.
The current bunch of sooky-sooky-la-la's are trying to get rid of the shirtfront.
Ask Byron Pickett what he thinks of the rules...


Interesting that you mention this Punky, as I've noticed for years the AFL in all their high-and-mighty glory are quick to stamp out "unsavoury incidents", yet time after time they devote highlight package time to them (they did it again at the All-Australian awards last night).

FWIW I think Holland had to go, but I think it's a 3-weeker tops, 2 with an early plea ... I would have thought Beau Waters hit earlier in the season had more potential for serious injury than this!

The AFL needs to find some consistency in their reports and penalties because it's clear that noone (players, supporters, officials) have any precise idea as to what is acceptible or not!
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Postby BubblesOfBlue » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:45 pm

Hollands bump was crap, there is nothing courageous about hitting a bloke like that, tribunal got it right in my opinion and if I was a Collingwood supporter I would be disappointed at his efforts as if they won the game he surely would not have been there next week to help them progress further.
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Postby JK » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:47 pm

BubblesOfBlue wrote:Hollands bump was crap, there is nothing courageous about hitting a bloke like that, tribunal got it right in my opinion and if I was a Collingwood supporter I would be disappointed at his efforts as if they won the game he surely would not have been there next week to help them progress further.


What if his act had played a reasonable part in them winning?
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Postby MW » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:53 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:This will please the mob justice mentality, including the low I.Q.
Who here (some intelligence required) feels that the bump was worth 5 games? A bump ffs, not a raised elbow, snipe behind play, but a bump.
F**k the AFL & it's PLayschool Tribunal.

Open season for those who get their rocks off of on Collingwood being persecuted....


No it wasn't a snipe behind the play, it was a snipe next to the play. You cab't just clean someone up when they are not a part of the play. You might as well go line up someone whos sitting on the bench. At least they'd be able to see you coming.

So why is Graeme Yeats a legend, & the '89 GF footage the most revered?
It's because he delivered a a decent hip & shoulder off the ball.
The current bunch of sooky-sooky-la-la's are trying to get rid of the shirtfront.
Ask Byron Pickett what he thinks of the rules...


Interesting that you mention this Punky, as I've noticed for years the AFL in all their high-and-mighty glory are quick to stamp out "unsavoury incidents", yet time after time they devote highlight package time to them (they did it again at the All-Australian awards last night).

FWIW I think Holland had to go, but I think it's a 3-weeker tops, 2 with an early plea ... I would have thought Beau Waters hit earlier in the season had more potential for serious injury than this!

The AFL needs to find some consistency in their reports and penalties because it's clear that noone (players, supporters, officials) have any precise idea as to what is acceptible or not!


He got a 40% increase in the suspension cause if his record, that is why it went up to 6 (5 for guilty plea)
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Postby JK » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:55 pm

MW wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:This will please the mob justice mentality, including the low I.Q.
Who here (some intelligence required) feels that the bump was worth 5 games? A bump ffs, not a raised elbow, snipe behind play, but a bump.
F**k the AFL & it's PLayschool Tribunal.

Open season for those who get their rocks off of on Collingwood being persecuted....


No it wasn't a snipe behind the play, it was a snipe next to the play. You cab't just clean someone up when they are not a part of the play. You might as well go line up someone whos sitting on the bench. At least they'd be able to see you coming.

So why is Graeme Yeats a legend, & the '89 GF footage the most revered?
It's because he delivered a a decent hip & shoulder off the ball.
The current bunch of sooky-sooky-la-la's are trying to get rid of the shirtfront.
Ask Byron Pickett what he thinks of the rules...


Interesting that you mention this Punky, as I've noticed for years the AFL in all their high-and-mighty glory are quick to stamp out "unsavoury incidents", yet time after time they devote highlight package time to them (they did it again at the All-Australian awards last night).

FWIW I think Holland had to go, but I think it's a 3-weeker tops, 2 with an early plea ... I would have thought Beau Waters hit earlier in the season had more potential for serious injury than this!

The AFL needs to find some consistency in their reports and penalties because it's clear that noone (players, supporters, officials) have any precise idea as to what is acceptible or not!


He got a 40% increase in the suspension cause if his record, that is why it went up to 6 (5 for guilty plea)


Ah ok, thanks mate
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Postby Dutchy » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:00 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
MW wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:This will please the mob justice mentality, including the low I.Q.
Who here (some intelligence required) feels that the bump was worth 5 games? A bump ffs, not a raised elbow, snipe behind play, but a bump.
F**k the AFL & it's PLayschool Tribunal.

Open season for those who get their rocks off of on Collingwood being persecuted....


No it wasn't a snipe behind the play, it was a snipe next to the play. You cab't just clean someone up when they are not a part of the play. You might as well go line up someone whos sitting on the bench. At least they'd be able to see you coming.

So why is Graeme Yeats a legend, & the '89 GF footage the most revered?
It's because he delivered a a decent hip & shoulder off the ball.
The current bunch of sooky-sooky-la-la's are trying to get rid of the shirtfront.
Ask Byron Pickett what he thinks of the rules...


didnt I say that?????.... :shock: :shock:

Interesting that you mention this Punky, as I've noticed for years the AFL in all their high-and-mighty glory are quick to stamp out "unsavoury incidents", yet time after time they devote highlight package time to them (they did it again at the All-Australian awards last night).

FWIW I think Holland had to go, but I think it's a 3-weeker tops, 2 with an early plea ... I would have thought Beau Waters hit earlier in the season had more potential for serious injury than this!

The AFL needs to find some consistency in their reports and penalties because it's clear that noone (players, supporters, officials) have any precise idea as to what is acceptible or not!


He got a 40% increase in the suspension cause if his record, that is why it went up to 6 (5 for guilty plea)


Ah ok, thanks mate
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Postby Magpiespower » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:33 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:So why is Graeme Yeats a legend, & the '89 GF footage the most revered?


If anyone's a legend, it's Dermie - fought through excruciating pain to kick three crucial goals.

In isolation, Yeats' bump is a big bump - a very big bump - but that's it.

However, placed in the wider context of arguably the greatest grand final ever played (maybe even the greatest game ever played) it takes on an almost mythical life of its own.

The drama! The theatre!
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Postby Peter Falconia » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:33 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:So why is Graeme Yeats a legend


Because he got Dermie. 'twas great stuff.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:57 pm

What Geelong did in that first quarter of the 89 Granny was a disgrace that really showed up the immaturity of our club in comparison with the seasoned Hawks. We went the man and they played the footy. We showed we could match them in the last three quarters when we decided to play football but the Hawthorn combination of the late 1980's is not the combination to give up a 40 point deficit to. We didn't back our ability due to our poor record against them and it cost us the premiership. Garry Hockings ridiculous free to John Kennedy remains with me to this day..a gimmie goal.

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Re: HOLLAND/MONTGOMERY disgrace.

Postby mal » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:29 pm

mal wrote:In previous posts I have made mention of players lining up
players at stoppages and charging into them.
Other incidents I have brought up are :
MCCABE/BUTCHER
BELL/JUDD

Today I saw it again HOLLAND/MONTGOMERY in the CO V WB elim. final.

Holland at the first bounce vee lined for Monty and smashed him in what
appeared a deliberate pre-meditated disgraceful action.

I have heard from fellow posters that players need to be AWARE !
MONTY was focussing on the ball and appeared not to see HOLLAND.

MONTY and the Bulldogs had the last laugh,when Monty kicked a few
sausage rolls and proved to be a match winner when shifted forward.

It must stop.
I say suspend them for 6 weeks, that will stop it.


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Postby sydney-dog » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:45 pm

this year Hilland has proved to be a coward on and off the field
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Postby PhilG » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:47 pm

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Postby sydney-dog » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:01 pm

Phil G

What the AFL are trying to achieve and I know this for a fact is

1. Protect the head region, it is very clear that head high bumps are a cardinal sin

2. Players are to make the footy their primary intent, not the body, if their is a secondary body clash thats ok, but dont run past the footy to take a bloke out

To me this is ok, I like it as hard an tough as anyone but make the footy your primary option and if a collision happens as a result of that intent well thats ok
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Postby mal » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:30 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Phil G

What the AFL are trying to achieve and I know this for a fact is

1. Protect the head region, it is very clear that head high bumps are a cardinal sin

2. Players are to make the footy their primary intent, not the body, if their is a secondary body clash thats ok, but dont run past the footy to take a bloke out

To me this is ok, I like it as hard an tough as anyone but make the footy your primary option and if a collision happens as a result of that intent well thats ok


Spot on again, dont know if i like agreeing with you these days its no fun anymore.
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Postby am Bays » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:42 pm

S-Dog they are they exact instructions given to umpires at the start of the year. As a guide we were told to watch the eyes....if their eyes are on the footy it and contact is made it is incidental, soon as they take there eyes off the bll and go for the man if the ball isn't within 5 m time to start pinging.

As others have pointed out Hollands crime is that the ball was loose and he has gone straight past it to pick off Montgomery. Others have had less severe suspensions because the players has had the ball or they have been "shepherding" for a teammate in possession...e.g the kosciske incident.

the head is sancrosanct even if it perfectly legal bump, any contact to the head especially when a player is making the ball his sole objective, free kick....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby PhilG » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:00 am

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Postby BubblesOfBlue » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:32 am

Constance_Perm wrote:
BubblesOfBlue wrote:Hollands bump was crap, there is nothing courageous about hitting a bloke like that, tribunal got it right in my opinion and if I was a Collingwood supporter I would be disappointed at his efforts as if they won the game he surely would not have been there next week to help them progress further.


What if his act had played a reasonable part in them winning?



Cmon CP it was Monty he bumped not Johnson!!
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Postby JK » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:46 pm

BubblesOfBlue wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
BubblesOfBlue wrote:Hollands bump was crap, there is nothing courageous about hitting a bloke like that, tribunal got it right in my opinion and if I was a Collingwood supporter I would be disappointed at his efforts as if they won the game he surely would not have been there next week to help them progress further.


What if his act had played a reasonable part in them winning?



Cmon CP it was Monty he bumped not Johnson!!


Yeah, coz Monty had a pretty ordinary game huh? :roll:
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Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:50 pm

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why did Chick get off, no intent for the ball, no intent to shepard as sydney had possession
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