Were Adelaide going to sign Neeld?

[RustyCage]

If he genuinely wanted the job and the pay, the contract term, etc was similar and the only variable was this one week he would wait. One week before this current season is even finished means nothing.

If his criteria was as simple as he would take the first offer he got then yes we missed him. Somehow, I don't think that was his sole criteria and staying in Melbourne was an important factor.

I don't think it's a matter of taking the first one that came up because he wanted it that bad. Wait for the Crows to make a decision and possibly miss a coaching job altogether, or take a job at the team that has a much better list than the Crows? What would your choice be?

[whufc]

If he genuinely wanted the job and the pay, the contract term, etc was similar and the only variable was this one week he would wait. One week before this current season is even finished means nothing.

If his criteria was as simple as he would take the first offer he got then yes we missed him. Somehow, I don't think that was his sole criteria and staying in Melbourne was an important factor.

I don't think it's a matter of taking the first one that came up because he wanted it that bad. Wait for the Crows to make a decision and possibly miss a coaching job altogether, or take a job at the team that has a much better list than the Crows? What would your choice be?

EXACTLY, not rocket science is it.

You got Melbourne who finished higher on the ladder than the Crows, considered a team on the up with lots of first round draft picks. Already based in Melbourne and they offer you a contract that you want right now

OR

The Crows, shocking season last year a team considered to be at the begginning of re-building phase. Would have to move interstate and be under alot more pressure only being a 2 team town.

Why would anyone sit around and wait for the Crows contract when doing so could mean that you miss the Melbourne job, miss the Crows job and be stuck as an assistant in 2012.

IF the Crows main target they wanted was Neeld THEY HAVE MISSED THE BOAT!

[Hondo]

Where have i hidden away.

I have challenged a few of your posts recently and I feel you leave threads as soon as it hots up.

At least Dutchy rolls with the punches and backs up his posts when challenged. I enjoy debating with him because he doesn't hide away or fall into weak generalisations about when challenged. He sticks to the debate at hand.

As I said, he may have a decent point but I think we need to wait one week before coming to a conclusion on Neeld. If it comes out later that Neeld was their first choice and they missed him then I agree that's a fail.

At this stage though I am not convinced Neeld was their first choice. I think Burns is.

If saying that makes me an unknowledgable Crows fan then I am an unknowledgable Crows fan.

[Hondo]

EXACTLY, not rocket science is it.

You got Melbourne who finished higher on the ladder than the Crows, considered a team on the up with lots of first round draft picks. Already based in Melbourne and they offer you a contract that you want right now

OR

The Crows, shocking season last year a team considered to be at the begginning of re-building phase. Would have to move interstate and be under alot more pressure only being a 2 team town.

Why would anyone sit around and wait for the Crows contract when doing so could mean that you miss the Melbourne job, miss the Crows job and be stuck as an assistant in 2012.

IF the Crows main target they wanted was Neeld THEY HAVE MISSED THE BOAT!

That's better! Roll with the debate. In my mind I think we actually agree with each other Lets wait and see.

[whufc]

Where have i hidden away.

I have challenged a few of your posts recently and I feel you leave threads as soon as it hots up.

At least Dutchy rolls with the punches and backs up his posts when challenged. I enjoy debating with him because he doesn't hide away or fall into weak generalisations about when challenged. He sticks to the debate at hand.

As I said, he may have a decent point but I think we need to wait one week before coming to a conclusion on Neeld. If it comes out later that Neeld was their first choice and they missed him then I agree that's a fail.

At this stage though I am not convinced Neeld was their first choice. I think Burns is.

If saying that makes me an unknowledgable Crows fan then I am an unknowledgable Crows fan.

because i post in many different areas of SaFooty i may have seriously forgot i posted and havent checked for replies.

Personally i think Burns will be the Crows next coach as well. If he was 1st 2nd or 3rd choice who will know. He is a much better option than Mark Bickley, i seriously hope Bickley gets the job.

[Gingernuts]

If he genuinely wanted the job and the pay, the contract term, etc was similar and the only variable was this one week he would wait. One week before this current season is even finished means nothing.

If his criteria was as simple as he would take the first offer he got then yes we missed him. Somehow, I don't think that was his sole criteria and staying in Melbourne was an important factor.

I don't think it's a matter of taking the first one that came up because he wanted it that bad. Wait for the Crows to make a decision and possibly miss a coaching job altogether, or take a job at the team that has a much better list than the Crows? What would your choice be?

Look mate I agree. I'm not trying to defend Adelaide here at all, I'm not sure how people are getting that impression.

I'm just stating that he was offered and took a job as head coach, something he has publicly declared that he desperately wants for many weeks now.

In all honestly before Craig got sacked and he publicly declared his interest in the Adelaide job I had no idea who Neeld was, now all of a sudden he's the best thing since sliced bread and Adelaide have 'missed out' on this big name coach. Maybe they have. However to me it's all a bit Meh, just another case of the Adelaide haters trying to strip the last material off a dead carcass.

In the end I trust not so much Trigg, but definitely Smart, Matthews and the associated panel to make the right call.

[Hondo]

because i post in many different areas of SaFooty i may have seriously forgot i posted and havent checked for replies.

Personally i think Burns will be the Crows next coach as well. If he was 1st 2nd or 3rd choice who will know. He is a much better option than Mark Bickley, i seriously hope Bickley gets the job.

Fair enough

In hindsight I over-reacted i think

I edited my post where I had a crack at you. No point criticising you of doing something that I then go and do.

I don't want us to appoint Bickley either. I think there are better options out there right now and that feels like the lazy way out for us.

[whufc]

If he genuinely wanted the job and the pay, the contract term, etc was similar and the only variable was this one week he would wait. One week before this current season is even finished means nothing.

If his criteria was as simple as he would take the first offer he got then yes we missed him. Somehow, I don't think that was his sole criteria and staying in Melbourne was an important factor.

I don't think it's a matter of taking the first one that came up because he wanted it that bad. Wait for the Crows to make a decision and possibly miss a coaching job altogether, or take a job at the team that has a much better list than the Crows? What would your choice be?

Look mate I agree. I'm not trying to defend Adelaide here at all, I'm not sure how people are getting that impression.

I'm just stating that he was offered and took a job as head coach, something he has publicly declared that he desperately wants for many weeks now.

In all honestly before Craig got sacked and he publicly declared his interest in the Adelaide job I had no idea who Neeld was, now all of a sudden he's the best thing since sliced bread and Adelaide have 'missed out' on this big name coach. Maybe they have. However to me it's all a bit Meh, just another case of the Adelaide haters trying to strip the last material off a dead carcass.

In the end I trust not so much Trigg, but definitely Smart, Matthews and the associated panel to make the right call.

Same here, only going off what i have heard and read from coaches, experts etc etc in the media, im hoping they know abit more than i do.

Its funny how when a team ala Collingwood, West Coast start to become successful all their assistant coaches become the next big/best coaches inline eg, Neeld, Burns and then from the Power era with Clarkson, Bailey and Hardwick.

Does Neeld being at Collingwood automatically mean he will be a better head coach than an assistant at Richmond?

[cripple]

No it doesn't, it would be the coaches that they have worked under e.g. both burns and neeld have seen mick malthouse at work and learnt a thing or two hopefully.

[Hondo]

It's interesting because I can't say I am an expert on Burns' credentials either but for some reason I'll be disappointed if we don't get him.

That said, I wouldn't mind Sanderson given his long involvement with Geelong.

[whufc]

It's interesting because I can't say I am an expert on Burns' credentials either but for some reason I'll be disappointed if we don't get him.

That said, I wouldn't mind Sanderson given his long involvement with Geelong.

There is another bloke Sanderson he was involved with the Power at one stage wasnt he when they were going well?

Strangely he has been talked up big time the last few seasons yet has 'appeared' to miss out on a fair few jobs.

Do the people think the Crows may make a second go at getting Nathan Bassett, i know he has said he wants to see out his contract at Norwood but if they miss the GF or dont have a good performance in the GF he may consider the AFL option.

[Jim05]

It's interesting because I can't say I am an expert on Burns' credentials either but for some reason I'll be disappointed if we don't get him.

That said, I wouldn't mind Sanderson given his long involvement with Geelong.

There is another bloke Sanderson he was involved with the Power at one stage wasnt he when they were going well?

Strangely he has been talked up big time the last few seasons yet has 'appeared' to miss out on a fair few jobs.

Do the people think the Crows may make a second go at getting Nathan Bassett, i know he has said he wants to see out his contract at Norwood but if they miss the GF or dont have a good performance in the GF he may consider the AFL option.

Not yet.
He will see out his contract, but next year will definately be his last at Norwood

[Hondo]

TBH, I'd love the Crows to make Roy Laird on offer he can't refuse as an assistant. I say assistant not to disrespect him but because he has said he doesn't want a senior AFL job and I think he has an issue with flying. I'd be happy if he drove to Melbourne as required and I would forgive him if he skipped the Perth and Brisbane drives He'd surely have a lot to offer an AFL club in an assistant's role.

That idea will fire up whufc more that any of my other posts I think!

[whufc]

TBH, I'd love the Crows to make Roy Laird on offer he can't refuse as an assistant. I say assistant not to disrespect him but because he has said he doesn't want a senior AFL job and I think he has an issue with flying. I'd be happy if he we paid him to drive to Melbourne as required and I would forgive him if he skipped the Perth and Brisbane drives He'd surely have a lot to offer an AFL club in an assistant's role.

That idea will fire up whufc more that any of my other posts I think!

I think he would make a very good assistant coach but honestly from what i know about him he would have absolutly zero interest and TBH he doesnt take an overly lot of interest in the AFL as a whole apart from the players involved with Centrals. I think the SANFL may be too ingrained into him unlike other SANFL coaches such as Mickan, Jarman, Bassett, etc etc alot like Ronny Fuller who despite a good record has never really been considered a serious AFL chance according to media.

Would be funny though to see an assistant on more money than the head coach, it would take a very large offer considering his just got his own Brock Real Estate 'franchise' (lack of a better term) and he wouldnt be on a pittance from Central either you would imagine.

[Dutchy]

I doubt the Crows know who they want as it stands right now, seeing Burns has not presented yet Neeld could well be their No.1 once all interviews are done, but he is gone...

[Jim05]

I doubt the Crows know who they want as it stands right now, seeing Burns has not presented yet Neeld could well be their No.1 once all interviews are done, but he is gone...

I think everyone is forgetting that there is still better jobs available. I think Burns would be seriously looking at the Saints now, far better proposition than the Crows. Yes their football department is a joke but they have a decent squad and are in a far better position to play finals over the next few years. Maybe the lure of coming home will appeal to him but I feel the lure of coaching in a footy mad Melbourne environment would sway him more.

[Rik E Boy]

It's quiet as they probably think Bickley is going to get the job.

I think it is Bickley or Burns, for mine, Bickley is a monty. Not Burns.

Excellent.

regards,

REB

[Leaping Lindner]

Saw a footy journo mate at a party tonight and he reckons it's Burns.
Has a journo ever been wrong before???

[Psyber]

It lis likely Neeld wanted a job in Victoria, but was keen enough on becoming a senior coach to take the first offer.
So, if he had come to the Crows, he may have left as soon as a job in Victoria came up.
I suspect few Victorians have any motivation to take an Adelaide job except as a stepping stone, or for astronomical money.

Burns is a prospect for taking the job, and caring about it, because he is from SA originally, and he has demonstrated he is prepared to take a job outside Victoria.
It depends then on the terms, and what he thinks of the squad's potential.
He is unlikely to want to announce anything while West Coast are still in the finals.

Bickley may be the only one who really wants the job, and that may make him better than somebody who doesn't care..

[Punk Rooster]

where does Mark Harvey now fit into all of this?