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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Sojourner » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:39 pm

OnSong wrote:You probably have a better chance following Richmond TBH.
Saints fans are delusional if they think "it's just a run of bad luck" that the media have pumped up.
There's a culture there that has been breeding trouble.
If you totalled the number of players involved in off-field controversy over the past three or four years, it would easily beat any other club IMO.

Milne, Montagna, Riewoldt, Gilbert (several times), Dawson (several times), Stanley, Cahill, Steven, Dal Santo, Lovett, Baker, Hayes.

11 of those players on the current list of 40.
Players will make mistakes now and then and some incidents they tend to be provoked (eg Baker and Hayes.)
But hell. I would love to see a comparison to any club that rivals that lot.


11 out of 40 is an interesting statistic, rumours have been running around about various issues at St Kilda for a number of years now. The issue is that what the public would know is only what is told in the media and thats hardly anything to go on.

In one sense I think that the club have made the right decision to suspend the players for the Sleeping Tablet incident and requiring them to work full time is an interesting way of getting their point across.

If St Kilda go on and win the flag it will be all forgotten about of course, clubs that win premierships can pretty much do whatever they please as the spoils are what their supporters are worried about, yet if St Kilda put in an average performance this year, expect the knives to be well and truly out with several contracts not renewed.

As for what they should do, perhaps the right person to answer the question is Malcolm Blight, would be interesting to hear his actual view on the situation and not the edited version.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:51 pm

More than a few talking about Blight here. He got the arse from the Saints over a decade ago folks. The Hun have been so good digging up dirt on the Sainters but where in the **** have they been in the last ten years? Phew someone really dropped the ball on this earth shattering bombshell. St Kilda should never have appointed Blight in the first place...their mistake was in giving Blight a go when he was more than happy playing Golf up here in Qld.

Yes St Kilda might be the culture club but apart from a few solid citizens most AFL players are probably big headed wankers who wouldn't give you the time of day when there are no TV cameras around. Perhaps before Carey shagged Kelli or my footballing idol did a runner on an OD young enough to be his daughter I wouldn't have thought so. It's no longer news it is just off season filler.

While this crapola shouldn't be swept under the carpet the focus should be on expelling those who are as dumb as dogshit and don't learn from their mistakes from the game and helping those who have pulled a clanger because they haven't handled the transition to wealth, celebrity and time to do something with both away from the training tarack - not on feeding the overbundance of talentless hacks that make up our football media at present.

Bounce the ******* ball already.

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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Grahaml » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:17 am

Blight should never have signed when he did, he and the whole football world knew he was wiped out from his time at Adelaide. But once they did sign him, they should have stuck with him so he could sort a few things out. Those things didn't get sorted out and the culture was allowed to build and breed under Grant Thomas and now Ross Lyon is not only charged with winning a flag, but doing it with a lame horse.

The troublesome element should have been moved on, as Blight would have done quickly when able, and then the kids coming through could have had good role models and structures in place to reward the right behavior. Instead that festering element was allowed to rot, feed itself and is now just as entrenched as it was. Sadly though, the club is so close to a flag it'll be hard to do now.

So how do St Kilda fix St Kilda? Make the toughest decisions possible, the fans will forgive in time, and do things right. Even if it means building from the ground up the right way, it's better than patching thints up all the time.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Strawb » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:41 am

St. Kilda will never change their culture yoghurt has more culture than this club. The problem is that a few make the problems and in this day and age everyone treats the AFL players like they are gods. Many years ago the Truth told all about the dark side of football that no one really cared about. These days the everything the players do is up for public scrutiny personally I don't give a rats backside what they do. I haven't brought a newspaper in ages. I will make fun and light of what they have done. I will post an article on what they have done. But normally I just don't care.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Ruben Carter » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:50 am

Rik E Boy wrote:More than a few talking about Blight here. He got the arse from the Saints over a decade ago folks. The Hun have been so good digging up dirt on the Sainters but where in the **** have they been in the last ten years? Phew someone really dropped the ball on this earth shattering bombshell. St Kilda should never have appointed Blight in the first place...their mistake was in giving Blight a go when he was more than happy playing Golf up here in Qld.

Yes St Kilda might be the culture club but apart from a few solid citizens most AFL players are probably big headed wankers who wouldn't give you the time of day when there are no TV cameras around. Perhaps before Carey shagged Kelli or my footballing idol did a runner on an OD young enough to be his daughter I wouldn't have thought so. It's no longer news it is just off season filler.

While this crapola shouldn't be swept under the carpet the focus should be on expelling those who are as dumb as dogshit and don't learn from their mistakes from the game and helping those who have pulled a clanger because they haven't handled the transition to wealth, celebrity and time to do something with both away from the training tarack - not on feeding the overbundance of talentless hacks that make up our football media at present.

Bounce the ******* ball already.

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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Mr66 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:02 am

Thank you all for vindicating me.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby GirlPower74 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:36 am

How to fix St Kilda? Burn the place down, and start again from the bottom up. :twisted:
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Barto » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:52 pm

A few tarps until we can get some more galvo to replace the roof and high pressure cleaners to get the mud out of everything.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Booney » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:02 pm

SJABC wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:I thought Jabbers idea had some merit. :lol:

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Thanks REB :lol:


Yeah, just kick clubs out and bring a new franchise in, that'll work well.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby mal » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:35 pm

OnSong wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
SJABC wrote:For me I'd boot the underarseheaving (sic) mob of tossers out of the comp.....


Cos they given the blues a few touch ups over the past few years? ... a pretty stupid statement!

Yes, I agree they have had a bad run with a few incidents that the media has taken and ran with, but as a St. Kilda supporter, to be totally honest, i am not too concerned. I think its all a bit of a blow up. To strip St Nick of the captaincy is rediculous as he hasn't done anything wrong.

In my view, the only way to fix St Kilda is for them to win a flag!

You probably have a better chance following Richmond TBH.
Saints fans are delusional if they think "it's just a run of bad luck" that the media have pumped up.
There's a culture there that has been breeding trouble.
If you totalled the number of players involved in off-field controversy over the past three or four years, it would easily beat any other club IMO.

Milne, Montagna, Riewoldt, Gilbert (several times), Dawson (several times), Stanley, Cahill, Steven, Dal Santo, Lovett, Baker, Hayes.

11 of those players on the current list of 40.
Players will make mistakes now and then and some incidents they tend to be provoked (eg Baker and Hayes.)
But hell. I would love to see a comparison to any club that rivals that lot.


11 out of 40 coincides with the club playing in 3 Grand Finals in 2 years
IF they misbehave even more and win a flag I will be ecstatic
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Dirko » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:43 pm

Booney wrote:Yeah, just kick clubs out and bring a new franchise in, that'll work well.


Like what happened to Fitzroy yeah?
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Mr66 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:55 pm

SJABC wrote:
Booney wrote:Yeah, just kick clubs out and bring a new franchise in, that'll work well.


Like what happened to Fitzroy yeah?



Kick out STK and bring Canberra in.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:12 pm

SJABC wrote:
Booney wrote:Yeah, just kick clubs out and bring a new franchise in, that'll work well.


Like what happened to Fitzroy yeah?


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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby CoverKing » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:18 pm

SJABC wrote:
Booney wrote:Yeah, just kick clubs out and bring a new franchise in, that'll work well.


Like what happened to Fitzroy yeah?

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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Booney » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:40 pm

SJABC wrote:
Booney wrote:Yeah, just kick clubs out and bring a new franchise in, that'll work well.


Like what happened to Fitzroy yeah?


Not really because there were a myriade of reasons that Fitzroy didnt survive and I guess the AFL's hunger for the competition to expand in South Australia was one.Im not sure theyll kick a club out for what St.Kilda are guilty of in recent times. Anyway, I did mention franchise and Port Adelaide, I think you will find,has always been a football club.

I was thinking franchise more like West Coast, Gold Coast, West Sydney, you know, new entities that were never previously a football club.I can see how you're easily confused though. :lol:












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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Apachebulldog » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:22 am

I reckon rename them to The Devils as they sure ain't Saints !!
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Psyber » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:41 pm

St Kilda are the last team I'd want to see win the AFL flag - so much so I actually caught myself in the act of sitting in front of the TV barracking for Collingwood last year! :shock:
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Ingall » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:02 pm

Psyber wrote:St Kilda are the last team I'd want to see win the AFL flag - so much so I actually caught myself in the act of sitting in front of the TV barracking for Collingwood last year! :shock:


Okay. That does it. I can forgive them bailing on Tassie a few years ago. I can forgive them for covering up for rapists. I can forgive them for having my missus ask me to find those pictures of Nick Riewoldt. What is unforgivable is making people barrack for Collingwood! They have to go.
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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby OnSong » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:04 pm

Ingall wrote:
Psyber wrote:St Kilda are the last team I'd want to see win the AFL flag - so much so I actually caught myself in the act of sitting in front of the TV barracking for Collingwood last year! :shock:


Okay. That does it. I can forgive them bailing on Tassie a few years ago. I can forgive them for covering up for rapists. I can forgive them for having my missus ask me to find those pictures of Nick Riewoldt. What is unforgivable is making people barrack for Collingwood! They have to go.

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Re: How to fix St Kilda

Postby Dog_ger » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:24 pm

If only we had 2 divisions.

Relegate them to Divy 2.

With a 24 month, 1 player interchange exclusion. :D

And possibly a 25% reduction of prise money.... :shock: :D

What about a 2 year x 5 poker machine reduction also, in the club.... ;)
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