Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

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Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelong's Success?

Yes, They won't be as a good as they were with him.
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No, They will be just the same if not better without him.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:36 am

piccachu wrote:i personally think if the cats loose gaz its not the end of the world by any stretch, the cattle that bomber thopson has to work with is amazing. blokes like david wocjinski would be a walk up start in any other side in the AFL yet really struggles to brake in to geelong.
just think if you loose gaz the on ball brigade still consists of bartell, selwood, corey, kelly, chapman and stokes
IMO thats still a bloody good on ball brigade which leads me to think the cats can most certainly cover him,
and on a different note port adelaide most certainly cant loose boak back to geelong as he is ports best player by a stret


Stokes won't go in to the midfield rotation ahead of Varcoe. Varcs is going to be an absolute GUN.

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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:54 am

wrong thread, but on Varcoe, i think in the past few seasons he has shown that glimpse of brilliance, only which he is now showing on a more weekly basis.............
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby JK » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:00 pm

If he does leave and their form dips then I would suggest it would be a factor, but not the only one .. Injuries, form, retirements, player ages, changing style of the game, opposition etc will always play a part.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Zorro » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:20 pm

MarblePark wrote:
Drop Bear wrote:Geelong won't be as good without him because he's a outright superstar, obviously. BUT they'll still be the best team in the comp if he leaves. The Cats are just that good.


Most sensible post I've read today.


Agree, we need option 3 - They won't be as good without him but it won't affect their success.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:10 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
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Trader wrote:Travis Boak to Geelong.

Wouldn't pick him.

Bollocks. Think of how much Boak would improve at the Cattery. The kid can play no doubt about it. Loving this poll result, plenty of people praying that the Cats put their claws away and hoping that it happens when Gazza goes.

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I reckon, if Port don't start winning games and Geelong to keep going as they are over the next 3,4 years, Boak will go home at some point.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:14 pm

Zorro wrote:
MarblePark wrote:
Drop Bear wrote:Geelong won't be as good without him because he's a outright superstar, obviously. BUT they'll still be the best team in the comp if he leaves. The Cats are just that good.


Most sensible post I've read today.


Agree, we need option 3 - They won't be as good without him but it won't affect their success.

Agreed DB, Zorro. I should of put that option in there.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:18 pm

piccachu wrote:The cattle that bomber thopson has to work with is amazing.
just think if you loose gaz the on ball brigade still consists of bartell, selwood, corey, kelly, chapman and stokes. IMO thats still a bloody good on ball brigade which leads me to think the cats can most certainly cover him

Agreed, it all comes down to cattle.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:23 pm

Boak would be a handy addition to our VFL side. Probably off the bench.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:27 pm

Wedgie wrote:Boak would be a handy addition to our VFL side. Probably off the bench.

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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby CK » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:45 pm

The big question Geelong have to look at here, is looking toward the future. They are, by no means, an old team, but wouldn't want to make the mistake that Essendon did in 2000 and arguably, Port Adelaide in 2004, by keeping blanket faith in the same list and refusing to let anyone meaningful go, for the sake of sentimentality.

Losing Ablett - and for what its worth, I find it hard to find enough reasons for him NOT to go (in terms of having achieved virtually everything he can there, apart from the captaincy) - could be a chance for them to pick up a very good younger player in return. This depends, of course, on what the AFL deem will be suitable compensation in these scenarios. Given they will finish high again this year - most likely a flag - they wouldn't get a very high pick (which will be largely a moot point anyway, given Gold Coast's concessions). This is a real chance for them to, as REB said, keep much of their fabric, bring in a top youngster to build into a top player in time and keep the list quietly regenerating to keep the dynasty going as long as possible.

Also, as mentioned, there are some disturbing "me, me" signs creeping into his game this year with some petulant on-field behaviour. I wonder, deep down, what some of the playing group feel about that.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:19 am

CK wrote:The big question Geelong have to look at here, is looking toward the future. They are, by no means, an old team, but wouldn't want to make the mistake that Essendon did in 2000 and arguably, Port Adelaide in 2004, by keeping blanket faith in the same list and refusing to let anyone meaningful go, for the sake of sentimentality.

Losing Ablett - and for what its worth, I find it hard to find enough reasons for him NOT to go (in terms of having achieved virtually everything he can there, apart from the captaincy) - could be a chance for them to pick up a very good younger player in return. This depends, of course, on what the AFL deem will be suitable compensation in these scenarios. Given they will finish high again this year - most likely a flag - they wouldn't get a very high pick (which will be largely a moot point anyway, given Gold Coast's concessions). This is a real chance for them to, as REB said, keep much of their fabric, bring in a top youngster to build into a top player in time and keep the list quietly regenerating to keep the dynasty going as long as possible.

Also, as mentioned, there are some disturbing "me, me" signs creeping into his game this year with some petulant on-field behaviour. I wonder, deep down, what some of the playing group feel about that.


We have let go King, Mumford, Prismall, Playfair, Davenport in recent years and introduced Hawkins (2007), Hogan (2009), Selwood (2007), Varcoe (2007), Duncan (2010), Taylor (2008) and a few others. While they are not all walk up starts at the moment some are and most will be. We have been turning over our list continuously however it will be hard to replace them all when their time comes.

As for Gazza's "petulant" behaviour, he was like that earlier in his career and only in the last couple years has he curbed it. I hate seeing it but it is nothing new.
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Choccies » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:37 am

New website just released....

http://garyablett.com/
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:48 am

I found this interview with Gary Snr about the pressure placed upon Gary Jnr via AdelaideNow:

Gary Ablett Sr pleads for his son to be given space as he decides his future

:arrow: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/g ... 5880655427
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:03 pm

LMAO. Give me space? How much space, on and off the football field are you going to get when you go up North Gary? Think about. No quiet trips to Torquay in the Sunshine State for you.

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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:22 pm

Ablett snr and jnr have a website together now http://garyablett.com/
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:20 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:LMAO. Give me space? How much space, on and off the football field are you going to get when you go up North Gary? Think about. No quiet trips to Torquay in the Sunshine State for you.

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exactly and now he will be stalked by you on the gold coast :lol:
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Re: Will Ablett Leaving Effect Geelongs Success?

Postby Trader » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:45 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
MarblePark wrote:
Trader wrote:Travis Boak to Geelong.


Wouldn't pick him.


Bollocks. Think of how much Boak would improve at the Cattery. The kid can play no doubt about it.

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Looks like the power are getting more and more nervous...
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