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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby NFC » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:23 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:I joined the Group 'the world cup can go and get F*****'. Far more relevant I would have thought.

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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Strawb » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:16 pm

How petty are we. The World cup will generate millions of dollars for the economy and all we can care about is our AFL. The AFl is scared of soccer taking over from it in popularity The world cup will be awesome for Australia. The AFl has been screwing our Local Comp the SANFL for years it is time to let someone Screw the AFL.
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Hondo » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:18 pm

I get the impression that we are a decent chance to get the World Cup. I didn't think that 12 months ago but where there's smoke ..... It sounds like 2022 is more likely than 2018 but I can now see lots of good reasons why they would want to stage it here - growth area for the sport, security, our standard of living, etc

There seems to be too much effort going on by the bid team for it to be a no-chance long shot.
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby X Runna » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:22 pm

Strawb07 wrote:How petty are we. The World cup will generate millions of dollars for the economy and all we can care about is our AFL. The AFl is scared of soccer taking over from it in popularity The world cup will be awesome for Australia. The AFl has been screwing our Local Comp the SANFL for years it is time to let someone Screw the AFL.


Not petty at all.........

Tell me Strawb07, how is the world cup going to help YOUR pocket? Same as mine - it won't ! Therefore, why should we (the greater public) have to put up with a pussy game taking over in place of our GREAT game for half a season or more, especially when only a minority want it?
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:35 pm

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Rik E Boy wrote:I joined the Group 'the world cup can go and get F*****'. Far more relevant I would have thought.

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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:36 pm

Strawb07 wrote:How petty are we. .......................... The AFl has been screwing our Local Comp the SANFL for years it is time to let someone Screw the AFL.


How petty are we. I don't like Soccer. Sue me.

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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Strawb » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:56 pm

If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby X Runna » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:29 am

Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Turbo » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:47 am

Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


Won't happen anyway. Soccer isn't big enough in this country
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Dutchy » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:40 am

Turbo wrote:
Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


Won't happen anyway. Soccer isn't big enough in this country


Is it big in South Africa?
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Ron Burgundy » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:46 am

X Runna wrote:
Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


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You think? I think the pay rise comment is a bit unrealistic but the rest of it is on the money.
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Turbo » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:17 am

Dutchy wrote:
Turbo wrote:
Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


Won't happen anyway. Soccer isn't big enough in this country


Is it big in South Africa?


I dunno is it? Its probably a political move to hold it in Sth Africa.
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby nuggety goodness » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:42 am

Turbo wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Turbo wrote:
Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


Won't happen anyway. Soccer isn't big enough in this country


Is it big in South Africa?


I dunno is it? Its probably a political move to hold it in Sth Africa.


soccer is the number 4 or 5 sport in the US but they hosted 94 (iirc) and they are gunning for another crack. the amount of people that will travel here will easily make up the numbers. and how many of you that don't like soccer would absolutely not go to a match if you got the chance? it'd be an amazing experience and our economy will only be boosted by the influx of foreign money. people spend a truckload!

i heard that Sth Africa are trying to legalise prostitution for the period of the world cup and they are changing the name indefinately to 'Sex workers' now... guarantee, legal or not, they will do a roaring trade. pubs will be overflowing, across the country too as people go to their local to watch a team of interest. then once the games are over the food joints would be inundated with people... hotel prices would be higher than usual but people will be paying them. buses, planes, trains, hire cars... memorabilia... now there's something that a few people i know can get in on the act with...

endless opportunity at the expense of half a season of footy and NRL, which i'm sure the FFA would compensate them financially too, however the die hard footy heads will be the ones to throw the tanty, if Demetriou gets a god enough offer he'll close the season down without blinking an eye i reckon.
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:56 pm

Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


what about the cost of the bid? If we bid and miss out it's money for nothing and your chicks for free.

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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:06 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:soccer is the number 4 or 5 sport in the US but they hosted 94 (iirc) and they are gunning for another crack. the amount of people that will travel here will easily make up the numbers. and how many of you that don't like soccer would absolutely not go to a match if you got the chance? it'd be an amazing experience and our economy will only be boosted by the influx of foreign money. people spend a truckload!

endless opportunity at the expense of half a season of footy and NRL, which i'm sure the FFA would compensate them financially too, however the die hard footy heads will be the ones to throw the tanty, if Demetriou gets a god enough offer he'll close the season down without blinking an eye i reckon.


1. The 4th or 5th ranked sport in the US has a lot more bums on seats than the 4th or 5th ranked sport in Aus.

2. The World Cup is a once off benefit. The AFL (and the NRL) provides an ongoing benefit long after our brief flirtation with the world game is over.

3. Demetriou would never close down an entire football season because this will cause clubs to fall over. Demetriou's legacy to the AFL will be an expanded AFL competition. No amount of money can compensate with the ambition of that towering ego. He will not want to go down in history as the president that oversaw the downfall of a Melbourne or Western Bulldogs or a North. And where is this money going to come from? FIFA? Nope, they'll award it to another country. The FFA? Not likely..it will come from our pockets so there's a negative on the economic benefits side of it. No one is going to throw cash at Demetriou and the AFL simply cannot and should not be forced to close down its entire season.

4. I wouldn't cross the road to watch the Socceroos. I wouldn't reach for the remote to turn over to the Paraguay vs. Serbia match. This country is the home of Australian Rules Football - the game made by Australians for Australians. While the World Cup obviously would benefit our country the arrogance of FIFA and the FFA is beyond belief...discarding our homegrown game just to benefit European soccer leagues and International broadcasters for a game that many of us couldn't care less about for the majority of the time.

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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Turbo » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:14 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:soccer is the number 4 or 5 sport in the US but they hosted 94 (iirc) and they are gunning for another crack. the amount of people that will travel here will easily make up the numbers. and how many of you that don't like soccer would absolutely not go to a match if you got the chance? it'd be an amazing experience and our economy will only be boosted by the influx of foreign money. people spend a truckload!

endless opportunity at the expense of half a season of footy and NRL, which i'm sure the FFA would compensate them financially too, however the die hard footy heads will be the ones to throw the tanty, if Demetriou gets a god enough offer he'll close the season down without blinking an eye i reckon.


1. The 4th or 5th ranked sport in the US has a lot more bums on seats than the 4th or 5th ranked sport in Aus.

2. The World Cup is a once off benefit. The AFL (and the NRL) provides an ongoing benefit long after our brief flirtation with the world game is over.

3. Demetriou would never close down an entire football season because this will cause clubs to fall over. Demetriou's legacy to the AFL will be an expanded AFL competition. No amount of money can compensate with the ambition of that towering ego. He will not want to go down in history as the president that oversaw the downfall of a Melbourne or Western Bulldogs or a North. And where is this money going to come from? FIFA? Nope, they'll award it to another country. The FFA? Not likely..it will come from our pockets so there's a negative on the economic benefits side of it. No one is going to throw cash at Demetriou and the AFL simply cannot and should not be forced to close down its entire season.

4. I wouldn't cross the road to watch the Socceroos. I wouldn't reach for the remote to turn over to the Paraguay vs. Serbia match. This country is the home of Australian Rules Football - the game made by Australians for Australians. While the World Cup obviously would benefit our country the arrogance of FIFA and the FFA is beyond belief...discarding our homegrown game just to benefit European soccer leagues and International broadcasters for a game that many of us couldn't care less about for the majority of the time.

regards,

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Well said. Totally agree
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby X Runna » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:41 pm

Ron Burgundy wrote:
X Runna wrote:
Strawb07 wrote:If u dun like soccer thats cool REB but you do for Geelong so all is good. The money will flow back into the The pockets of everyone through revenue raised and it will promote jobs. Bosses should give people a pay rise whilst it is on and also depending on which city will hold the final money will be made from that people from all around the world will travel here and spend money. Local economies will benefit from all those extra dollars coming into the communities. It will be a win win for all.


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You think? I think the pay rise comment is a bit unrealistic but the rest of it is on the money.


Local economies may benefit, but not everyday Joe Average. Sure, hire cars, restaurants, accommodation, pubs, nightclubs etc will gain hugely from it - but how will I? And don't anybody come back with the benefit we will all see from it. Is the government going to come to me and say, sh*t we made a lot out of extra taxes etc at World Cup, we should send X Runna a lazy grand. Come on.....people get hoodwinked it is going to help our economy. It will help the government and the lucky few who happen to be in the industries which gain the extra business - but that is it !!!!!

Reb is right on the money with this one........
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby cripple » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:08 pm

If you can't see that a world cup will help the entire country you have your head stuck up your backside. Whilst you might not gain immediate economic effects in your occupation, the people that do will then spend that money in your place of your work or if worst comes to worst it will towards GST and then we can all benefit with roads, hospitals, improved sporting arenas etc....

By 2022 australia's population will be around the 25 million mark. The impact that how ever many hundreds of thousands of international tourists come to australia for the cup will have a far greater impact on us then it would in the USA for example. the promotion gained will see many millions of tourists wanting to come to australia for years after the world cup after seeing all the cities that they didn't get to learn about during sydney 2000.

and if you are really worried about the AFL season stopping for a month, don't be bloody stupid. Imagine channel 7, 9 and 10's delight when the majority of spectators can't go to the G and are forced to watch there dogs, roo's or even pies play out of darwin, cairns, launceston or bellreive on TV for a month. could even send a couple of games over to NZ or Japan to cash in on the international recognition that australia would be experiencing. I dont think that MLB, NBA, NHL or NFL were overly affected in 1994, why should we be.
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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby Dirko » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:45 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:1. The 4th or 5th ranked sport in the US has a lot more bums on seats than the 4th or 5th ranked sport in Aus.

FAIL ! Average crowd in the MSL is 16037. A-League crowd is 12180 (for last completed season). Population of the USA 308 million. Population of Australia 22 million.

2. The World Cup is a once off benefit. The AFL (and the NRL) provides an ongoing benefit long after our brief flirtation with the world game is over.

FAIL ! So if that's the case why did Sydney bother with the Olympics. The Stadium upgrades alone would benefit the AFL & NRL (and A-League/Union) in the future.

3. Demetriou would never close down an entire football season because this will cause clubs to fall over. Demetriou's legacy to the AFL will be an expanded AFL competition. No amount of money can compensate with the ambition of that towering ego. He will not want to go down in history as the president that oversaw the downfall of a Melbourne or Western Bulldogs or a North. And where is this money going to come from? FIFA? Nope, they'll award it to another country. The FFA? Not likely..it will come from our pockets so there's a negative on the economic benefits side of it. No one is going to throw cash at Demetriou and the AFL simply cannot and should not be forced to close down its entire season.

FAIL ! No one has said the AFL has to shut down the entire season. Did anyone carp on about the revised season times for the Olympic & Commonwealth games ?

4. I wouldn't cross the road to watch the Socceroos. I wouldn't reach for the remote to turn over to the Paraguay vs. Serbia match. This country is the home of Australian Rules Football - the game made by Australians for Australians. While the World Cup obviously would benefit our country the arrogance of FIFA and the FFA is beyond belief...discarding our homegrown game just to benefit European soccer leagues and International broadcasters for a game that many of us couldn't care less about for the majority of the time.

FAIL ! Half the country is home to AFL, the rest of it couldn't give a rats arse about it. What the hell do European Football Leagues have to do with the World Cup? It's an INTERNATIONAL tournament. The major Leagues usually don't play when it's on ! Many may not care but many do !

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Re: AFL vs Soccer World Cup

Postby X Runna » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:58 pm

cripple wrote:If you can't see that a world cup will help the entire country you have your head stuck up your backside. Whilst you might not gain immediate economic effects in your occupation, the people that do will then spend that money in your place of your work or if worst comes to worst it will towards GST and then we can all benefit with roads, hospitals, improved sporting arenas etc....

By 2022 australia's population will be around the 25 million mark. The impact that how ever many hundreds of thousands of international tourists come to australia for the cup will have a far greater impact on us then it would in the USA for example. the promotion gained will see many millions of tourists wanting to come to australia for years after the world cup after seeing all the cities that they didn't get to learn about during sydney 2000.

and if you are really worried about the AFL season stopping for a month, don't be bloody stupid. Imagine channel 7, 9 and 10's delight when the majority of spectators can't go to the G and are forced to watch there dogs, roo's or even pies play out of darwin, cairns, launceston or bellreive on TV for a month. could even send a couple of games over to NZ or Japan to cash in on the international recognition that australia would be experiencing. I dont think that MLB, NBA, NHL or NFL were overly affected in 1994, why should we be.


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