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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby JK » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:50 pm

aceman wrote:
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CK wrote:In reality, if Kelli was a male, then hardly anyone would be saying anything and that alone is disappointing.

Someone that should be admired, not made to feel inferior, IMHO.


Need to find the right words for this ... I don't think the issue most seem to have with her is with her abilities as a female commentator, I think it's more just her voice - Every footy fan has been used to hearing male only voices calling the game for years, and it will probably take some time just to get used to the difference.

She is certainly on a hiding-to-nothing so she should be commended on her bravery (and whilst it's taken me a little time to become used to her, I don't have any problems with her calls that I've heard) - She would be loathe to make actual comments on key issues within a game (ie, Player A is sneaking ahead of centre and his direct opponent player B should be trying to take him closer to goal) because she hasn't the playing experience most other commentators have, so she is doing everything that should reasonably be expected of a non-colour commentator imho.

It's interesting that if you switch on a netball game and there's female commentators, noone bats an eyelid ... I think it's just a mindset that needs to be challenged before it can be changed, and that's now where we find ourselves at.



Give her a chance, she's better to listen to than Time Lane & Michael Christiansen, sh*t are they ordinary.


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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby dedja » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:09 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
CK wrote:In reality, if Kelli was a male, then hardly anyone would be saying anything and that alone is disappointing.

Someone that should be admired, not made to feel inferior, IMHO.


Need to find the right words for this ... I don't think the issue most seem to have with her is with her abilities as a female commentator, I think it's more just her voice - Every footy fan has been used to hearing male only voices calling the game for years, and it will probably take some time just to get used to the difference.

She is certainly on a hiding-to-nothing so she should be commended on her bravery (and whilst it's taken me a little time to become used to her, I don't have any problems with her calls that I've heard) - She would be loathe to make actual comments on key issues within a game (ie, Player A is sneaking ahead of centre and his direct opponent player B should be trying to take him closer to goal) because she hasn't the playing experience most other commentators have, so she is doing everything that should reasonably be expected of a non-colour commentator imho.

It's interesting that if you switch on a netball game and there's female commentators, noone bats an eyelid ... I think it's just a mindset that needs to be challenged before it can be changed, and that's now where we find ourselves at.


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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby CK » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:12 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
CK wrote:In reality, if Kelli was a male, then hardly anyone would be saying anything and that alone is disappointing.

Someone that should be admired, not made to feel inferior, IMHO.


It's interesting that if you switch on a netball game and there's female commentators, noone bats an eyelid ... I think it's just a mindset that needs to be challenged before it can be changed, and that's now where we find ourselves at.


I find it more interesting that former Western Bulldog Luke Darcy, commentates the ANZ netball Championship, but no-one bats an eyelid at that one - and rightly so.
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby catchit » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:19 pm

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Thiele wrote:Really enjoy listening to her on the weekend. Nice to hear Women call the football



are you for real?? dont get me wrong i love all women but it just wasnt the same IMO..
good on her for giving it a go though..



I reckon you told a couple the other night.... :D


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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby carey » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:06 pm

cant stand her painful to watch while she is calling the game go back to netball kelli.
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:20 pm

basketball actually ;)
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Browny25 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:25 pm

lets just see some photos of her to have a perve please..

she cant call footy so lets appreciate her for her looks!

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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:41 pm

Bit harsh... I'd say she calls the game pretty well.

It's more the fact that she doesn't have the flow, tone and usual commentator's vernacular.

But for an actual description of the game, she does a good job.
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Psyber » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:19 pm

Don't listen to those guys criticising you Kelli!
Just give me a ring, and I'll come round and give you my full support and encouragement... 8)
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:58 pm

Psyber wrote:Don't listen to those guys criticising you Kelli!
Just give me a ring, and I'll come round and give you my full support and encouragement... 8)


It's interesting that some people get criticised for having a shot at Kelli because she's a woman, and yet there are others who support her for the very same reason :)
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby jointman » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:18 pm

1 word BORING....
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby MW » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:40 pm

I'd hit it
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby LBT » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:14 pm

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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Media Park » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:49 am

I'm picturing some sort of sandwich with Kelli Underwood and that female goal umpire... the one that was used asa stepladder... ;)
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:50 am

My daughter hated her the other day.
The thing they've got to do with commentators and radio announcers be they male or female is get people with decent voices first, then an understanding of the game (or shift) second.
Kelli hasn't got a good voice for it, her being female has nothing to do with it.
Some of the female DJs are awful too, have shocking voices, voice seems to be the last thing (if at all) people are judged on in these positions and it should be the first.
If someone has only a good understanding of the game but a terrible voice give them a job as a journalist, that'd be a nice change too.
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby The Jack » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:23 pm

I thought she did a great job of the Cats-Hawks game the other day. At one stage in the 2nd quarter the ball went through about 6 sets of Hawk hands really quickly and she didn't miss a beat, got them all before catching up with the play. She certainly knows her stuff. I think it's good to have a commentator that plays it straight to call the action, and leaves the special comments to others. Good on her I say! :-bd
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Hondo » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:42 pm

I think she is a good caller of the game and that her voice is more noticeable because we aren't used to a female commentator.

There have been some very average "voices" over the years that we've let go through to the keeper right back from Graeme Campbell in the 80s through to the likes of Dunstall, Dwayne Russell & Gary Lyon today. We let them go because the sound of a male voice is something we are used to, even if it's not as silky smooth as a Grybas (the best - RIP) or a Commetti. At the very least, I have never heard anyone criticise a caller's voice before.

I hope she's not railroaded out of town purely on the basis of her "voice". If she's not up to it as a caller, then fine move her on. But I seriously don't have any issue with the way she calls the game or her voice.
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby redden whites » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:27 pm

I also have no problem when she calls a game .She already calls better than our local productions
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:33 pm

I'm a fan of the SANFL calls on ABC. IMO there's not the egos and attempts at showmanship that the AFL TV callers try on...
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Re: Kelli Underwood

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:55 pm

nah not a fan of hers, not a fan of her voice, and it doesnt have the same feel to it having a female voice
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