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Re: Footy Classified

Postby gadj1976 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:55 pm

Dutchy wrote:
tigerhutch wrote:I agree with cutterman, unfortunately the melbourne based footy shows dont realise it is 2009 and that other teams exist outside of Victoria. They still think its the VFL and if it wasnt for the money generated by the non victorian teams you wouldnt have the excessive number of victorian teams in the competition.


OR

unfortunately the Adelaide based footy shows dont realise it is 2009 and that other teams exist outside of SA.


The Footy Show at least did something by ramping up Showdown but the Crows and Port sent "low" profile players, so now their games are displayed last each week and not spoken about. Mind you, I think that's purile by the Footy Show, to alleviate conjecture about perceived bias, they should name the teams in order of how they appear on the program and therefore scuttle any talk of bias.

The only show that doesn't show bias IMO is On The Couch. All other shows, radio or TV are biased toward their local team(s).
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Dogmatic » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:32 pm

The Marngrook Football Show on Foxtel channel 180 is quite an unbiased show for football teams.
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby CUTTERMAN » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:26 am

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CUTTERMAN wrote:Ok, seems that I've touched a nerve of a few Vic club supporters living in SA, then fair enough. My point is, if you're able to remove the chips off your shoulders, isn't about Adelaide, it's about the format in general, the Victorian-centric attitude of the show, which I remind you is on national TV, (as compared to any media that is produced in SA). Enjoy your foxtel!


Is Footy Classified shown in Qld & NSW? If not then thats 10 / 14 clubs represented by one state so you would have to expect the focus of the show to represent that?

Also your example was the crows /essendon match....last time i checked Essendon were Victorian??


I am a port fan and on the occasion i do watch a Melbourne based footy program i dont expect much if any news focusing on Port. Also Classified in particular seem to focus on the negatives in footy (nasty incidents, coaches on the brink etc, board takeovers) there hasnt been much of that from any inerstate club for a while.

Dont put up an argument with a question, do you know if your argument is true, cause it doesn't seem as though you do. My point is that it's shown outside of Vic. Hence it's national= wider audience from it's parent state. FFS it's not that hard what I'm trying to say. It's not about Adelaide crows, nor SA teams, it's about a fair and interesting coverage of the AFL! AFL total, not only in Vic but across the counrty, it's not that ******* hard. :roll:
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:08 am

CUTTERMAN wrote:My point is that it's shown outside of Vic. Hence it's national= wider audience from it's parent state.


Why? Does 5AA modify it's ridiculously biased SA commentary even though they are broadcast around Australia?

Why do we expect Victoria to provide an unbiased coverage of footy all the time when other states couldn't give a toss? Can you imagine the whingeing if the Melbourne media had an award for players in Melbourne based clubs only? Adelaide people would scream like stuck pigs, and yet our media do precisely that.

The show may be telecast around Australia, but it's still a Melbourne production. We have shows telecast into Adelaide from all points of the planet, but we don't expect Amercian shows to talk about South Australia. Adelaide ratings aren't all that important to networks on Sydney and Melbourne, that's a fact.

As Duthy said earlier ... just how much media coverage do Adelaide people want FFS???!!!
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Psyber » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:49 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:...Why do we expect Victoria to provide an unbiased coverage of footy all the time when other states couldn't give a toss? Can you imagine the whingeing if the Melbourne media had an award for players in Melbourne based clubs only? Adelaide people would scream like stuck pigs, and yet our media do precisely that...
Simply AH, because they are the ones pretending the rebadged VFL is the "AFL" and runs a genuine national competition.
So, they have to pretend to be unbiased too...
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Dutchy » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:15 am

The world is about to end...AH and me agree! :lol:
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Swooper16 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:30 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:
Swooper16 wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:Ok, seems that I've touched a nerve of a few Vic club supporters living in SA, then fair enough. My point is, if you're able to remove the chips off your shoulders, isn't about Adelaide, it's about the format in general, the Victorian-centric attitude of the show, which I remind you is on national TV, (as compared to any media that is produced in SA). Enjoy your foxtel!


Is Footy Classified shown in Qld & NSW? If not then thats 10 / 14 clubs represented by one state so you would have to expect the focus of the show to represent that?

Also your example was the crows /essendon match....last time i checked Essendon were Victorian??


I am a port fan and on the occasion i do watch a Melbourne based footy program i dont expect much if any news focusing on Port. Also Classified in particular seem to focus on the negatives in footy (nasty incidents, coaches on the brink etc, board takeovers) there hasnt been much of that from any inerstate club for a while.

Dont put up an argument with a question, do you know if your argument is true, cause it doesn't seem as though you do. My point is that it's shown outside of Vic. Hence it's national= wider audience from it's parent state. FFS it's not that hard what I'm trying to say. It's not about Adelaide crows, nor SA teams, it's about a fair and interesting coverage of the AFL! AFL total, not only in Vic but across the counrty, it's not that f****** hard. :roll:


Yep its true. Not shown in Qld or NSW. So it is not actually a nationally televised program. It is a melbourne produced show using Victorian journalists and identities that is shown in the other Footballing states as it will still get reasonable ratings. If you want a non biased, = allocated time for all clubs program then watch One week at a Time as that IS a nationally televised program and SHOULD make sure it provides fair coverage on each club.
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby JK » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:55 pm

Wrong topic I know but I couldn't see a thread dedicated to "Hutchy", and don't think he deserves one anyway ... Good viewing on the footy show tonight when he was heckled by a crowd member (whom I think referred to him as a "Hack"), and it noticeably affected him.

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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Interceptor » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:20 am

Constance_Perm wrote:Wrong topic I know but I couldn't see a thread dedicated to "Hutchy", and don't think he deserves one anyway ... Good viewing on the footy show tonight when he was heckled by a crowd member (whom I think referred to him as a "Hack"), and it noticeably affected him.

Good!

Yeah funny moment that!
There is a thread dedicated to "Hacky" on Big Footy (media section).
Not surprisingly, there isn't a lot of love for the man :twisted:
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Footy Smart » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:11 pm

Great to see Jimmy Brayshaw make Carro looks like the tool with no idea she is last night!!!!!
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:16 pm

I only saw 10 mins last night which was Brayshaw getting stuck into Caro ... Garry Lyon landed a couple as well.

She and Hutchy should be in politics ... all mud and no substance.
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:24 pm

It was great, I loved Gary saying to her "You dont speak for the footy public Caro" he had to say it twice before it got thru though!

It clearly showed how they latch onto any perceived weakness at a footy club like a leech and wont let go, while any positives are swept under the carpet...

Interesting that Hutchy kept right out of any questioning - he only goes after easy targets - JB was too tough for him
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Swooper16 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:28 pm

Interesting to hear "Caro" actually drop the names of those who were rumoured to be involved in that hush money incident in Adelaide years ago.
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:33 pm

Swooper16 wrote:Interesting to hear "Caro" actually drop the names of those who were rumoured to be involved in that hush money incident in Adelaide years ago.


from memory I think that was all in their media at the time, but there was court restrictions of it being published in SA
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:37 pm

dedja wrote:I only saw 10 mins last night which was Brayshaw getting stuck into Caro ... Garry Lyon landed a couple as well.

She and Hutchy should be in politics ... all mud and no substance.


I rarely watch this but was writing one of my articles and it came on - JB made her look stupid
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Swamp Donkey » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:26 pm

She is an absolute dropkick and Hutchy is in the same boat. I realise they have a job to do but surely a journalist can be switched on morally also. Its always about how Caro and Hutchy and how controversial they can be rather than providing factual unbiased information. Jimmy Brayshaw took her to the cleaners!
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:31 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:JB made her look stupid


Caro can manage that all on her own without Brayshaw's help.
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:05 pm

If James Brayshaw makes you look stupid you are in BIG trouble.
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:00 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:She is an absolute dropkick and Hutchy is in the same boat. I realise they have a job to do but surely a journalist can be switched on morally also. Its always about how Caro and Hutchy and how controversial they can be rather than providing factual unbiased information.


I agree with this. I haven't watched FC for a long time. In fact the only time I watched, they had some "face off" in which three members of the media (Hutchinson, Wilson and Robinson) debated with three AFL club Presidents.

One was Gardner the (then) incumbent President of Melbourne. He asked the best question of all ... "Why does the media feel they need to bite the hand that feeds them?". I would really like to know the answer to that myself, but of course he never got an answer ... just dribble.

Caro and Hutchy are fine examples of everything I hate about the media.
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Re: Footy Classified

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:24 am

Leaping Lindner wrote:If James Brayshaw makes you look stupid you are in BIG trouble.


i agree

i dont think Caro helped herself though

hack-hutchy who gets involved in everything just sat there in silence - pity he didnt do it more often
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