by mal » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:38 pm
by NO-MERCY » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:26 pm
by Footy Smart » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:34 pm
but I'd rather be a better team in 3-4 years, when Geelong's weakened, so we're at least a chance to win the flag.
by JK » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:53 pm
mal wrote:Craig has about the 13th worst list and finishes in the 8
Not a choke
Just the form working out
He gets the best outa his ordinary team list during the monor round
Other teams can lift a notch Adelaide usually cant in finals
by footy_mad10 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:26 am
Footy Smart wrote:but I'd rather be a better team in 3-4 years, when Geelong's weakened, so we're at least a chance to win the flag.
That is why your club will go no where well said idiot. The facts are Craigy has done very well with the squad he has been given and he has developed some great kids who under other coaches would have failed and been lost.
I would much rather support a team that doesnt execpt mediocrity like your mob who drink to much port river water.... In 2 or 3 years time the crows will have a much better squad than Port because our young lads will have played in finals while your yongsters are used to having a few beers on saturday when Septmeber comes around.
Well said footy_mad10
GO CROWS
by Footy Smart » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:30 am
footy_mad10 wrote:Footy Smart wrote:but I'd rather be a better team in 3-4 years, when Geelong's weakened, so we're at least a chance to win the flag.
That is why your club will go no where well said idiot. The facts are Craigy has done very well with the squad he has been given and he has developed some great kids who under other coaches would have failed and been lost.
I would much rather support a team that doesnt execpt mediocrity like your mob who drink to much port river water.... In 2 or 3 years time the crows will have a much better squad than Port because our young lads will have played in finals while your yongsters are used to having a few beers on saturday when Septmeber comes around.
Well said footy_mad10
GO CROWS
Sorry about my facts regarding straight sets, I made a mistake.
But, can you tell me which of your "great kids" is going to be your McLeod/Goodwin/Edwards/Riccuito???? I don't think you can...
You have Bock and to a lesser extent Porplyzia. There is no way Vince, Maric, Douglas, Knights, VanBerlo, Stevens or anyone else is going to hold your club in good stead for the next decade.
What I was saying was, Port had a great year last year, this year was terrible, and yes we probably gave in too early. However, we have Boak, Salopek, Chad and Kane Cornes, and a few others, who will be great players for the better part of the next 6 years.
It is my opinion, and just an opinion, that I believe Port will be more successful in 3 years time, than the Crows will be, whether that is a Premiership I don't know.
I don't doubt that NC has done a good job with his list and injuries, however he will not get to a GF let alone win one with his shoddy gameplan being so defensive minded!
by Footy Smart » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:34 am
Constance_Perm wrote:mal wrote:Craig has about the 13th worst list and finishes in the 8
Not a choke
Just the form working out
He gets the best outa his ordinary team list during the monor round
Other teams can lift a notch Adelaide usually cant in finals
Very much agree with that Mal, I guess the only thing that muddies the waters for me, is that the Collingwood team sheet of yesterday probably didn't have 24 names rated among the best 8 ... Take out Thomas, O'Bree, Pendlebury, Davis, Cloke, Swan, Fraser, Medhurst and you're left with a pretty long list of kids that aren't household names, yet they play with so much energy and honesty and hold their nerve away from home.
Im not pointing the finger at NC, but I think the battle of the two lineups yesterday was pretty even, home crowd swings things in Adelaide's favour, but it looked to me that he got out manouvred by one of the master coachs.
Just an opinion, not a dig at either team.
by JK » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:50 am
Footy Smart wrote:Constance_Perm wrote:mal wrote:Craig has about the 13th worst list and finishes in the 8
Not a choke
Just the form working out
He gets the best outa his ordinary team list during the monor round
Other teams can lift a notch Adelaide usually cant in finals
Very much agree with that Mal, I guess the only thing that muddies the waters for me, is that the Collingwood team sheet of yesterday probably didn't have 24 names rated among the best 8 ... Take out Thomas, O'Bree, Pendlebury, Davis, Cloke, Swan, Fraser, Medhurst and you're left with a pretty long list of kids that aren't household names, yet they play with so much energy and honesty and hold their nerve away from home.
Im not pointing the finger at NC, but I think the battle of the two lineups yesterday was pretty even, home crowd swings things in Adelaide's favour, but it looked to me that he got out manouvred by one of the master coachs.
Just an opinion, not a dig at either team.
NC wouldnt be the first coach to be beaten by mick would he???? I thought with what we have we did well this year no doubt. If you look at it Swan, thomas, fraser, medhurst etc all did something when our goodwin, mcleod, edwards, thompson did absolutely nothing. We are very similar in melbourne they would have no idea who vince, douglas, mckay are like we dont know who stanley, dawes etc are over here
Bing on next year
by SCD » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:13 pm
by JK » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:21 pm
by footy_mad10 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:22 pm
by JK » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:26 pm
footy_mad10 wrote:I'm having a go at NC, i think his defensive minded game plan is terrible..... you look at the top teams, the teams left in the comp now, they all have the potential to kick 20 goals, every game, and often kick 15 goals on a bad day.
by footy_mad10 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:29 pm
Constance_Perm wrote:footy_mad10 wrote:I'm having a go at NC, i think his defensive minded game plan is terrible..... you look at the top teams, the teams left in the comp now, they all have the potential to kick 20 goals, every game, and often kick 15 goals on a bad day.
I think he's forced to have them play this way due to the current nature of his list ... If they played open shootout style footy, they would get massacred quite regularly and wouldn't be playing finals footy I reckon, again, just my opinion.
by JK » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:39 pm
footy_mad10 wrote:I partly agree, however has NC ever tried it? Look at the Bombers, they won some games, and got murdered in others, however over the next 2-3 years they will be playing finals footy, and the style to win finals games, IMO.
by footy_mad10 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:56 pm
Constance_Perm wrote:footy_mad10 wrote:I partly agree, however has NC ever tried it? Look at the Bombers, they won some games, and got murdered in others, however over the next 2-3 years they will be playing finals footy, and the style to win finals games, IMO.
That is a most excellent point and I agree with you mate ... They also had the benefit of older stars like Lloyd and Lucas who are both forwards, however I agree that the goalkicking ability and experience their youngsters picked up this year around those older blokes, has been extremely important for them.
Adelaide Footy Club is run like a business so bottoming out is not on their agenda, it's worth remembering the importance in financial terms of not doing so too ... I'd imagine the hierachy demand finals participation each year from the coach, so the coach goes and does what he believes gives him the best opportunity to meet his required target, with what he has to work with.
by Rik E Boy » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:27 pm
footy_mad10 wrote:
I partly agree, however has NC ever tried it? Look at the Bombers, they won some games, and got murdered in others, however over the next 2-3 years they will be playing finals footy, and the style to win finals games, IMO.
I just am of the opinion that in todays game, you need to kick more than 15 goals repeatedly to play a style of footy which will win you finals.
by Footy Smart » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:06 pm
Rik E Boy wrote:footy_mad10 wrote:
I partly agree, however has NC ever tried it? Look at the Bombers, they won some games, and got murdered in others, however over the next 2-3 years they will be playing finals footy, and the style to win finals games, IMO.
I just am of the opinion that in todays game, you need to kick more than 15 goals repeatedly to play a style of footy which will win you finals.
I reckon he did try it early on mads but when he lost a couple of blokes he had to go back to 'Plan A' as it were. I also think that the Bombers will have to wait a bit longer than you think. Adelaide has proven it won't be giving up it's spot, ditto Collingwood. Sydney and the Roos look a bit vulnerable but Essendon also have get past Carlton and Richmond in the pecking order. Throw in Port and West Coast on the rebound and you'll find that a spot in the eight might be a bit further away for Essendon than you might think.
regards,
REB
by Mr_Willy » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:11 pm
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