another 2 knee recon's

[Footy Chick]

No, I'm not fired up at all. More disappointed that we've had six re-co s already for 2008 after having pretty low totals for the last four years.We had an absolute rash in 2002-2003 but then it dropped back. Hopefully we are not about to see a spike again, like we have had in shoulder injuries for the last two years (that's assumed to be because of younger players coming into sides, and hence the stricter interpretation on players being slammed into the ground shoulder / head first with their arms pinned).
Grima did his at training.
Biglands did his at training, as a second time.
Malceski did his changing direction, as a second time.
Hasleby did his in contact.
Dick did his in a tackle.
Brown isn't quite sure when he did his, but is assumed to be contact,

The greater numbers of knees, as said, have been in WA, SA and Qld compared to the other states, over the journey of 17 years of research, but the other states invariably have their knees in the depths of winter (why is that, we don't know), with completely the opposite conditions. Maybe it is just all random.

It's interesting you say that, and although slightly unrelated to the AFL, I noticed that the number of shoulder injuries last year far outweighed the number of knee injuries. However ,I remember going to a seminar which discussed drought and it's effects on injuries and there was nothing to prove that harder grounds are cause for more injuries. I argued however that the type of injury caused by a harder ground would be a topic for concern..

2 ACL knee injuries (both at Seatons ground FYI) to at least half a dozen shoulder injuries mainly AC's..was my tally last season..

[rogernumber10]

Our view was that a change in tackling techniques, to become much more aggressive, was having an impact on shoulder stats. Players with arms pinned, and the ball gone, being unable to protect themselves and driven into the ground was something we started to see from 05 onwards. From the start of 07, players have been told you may be reported and certainly will be free kicked. Now we have to see if some shoulder injury numbers come down.

[Rushby Hinds]

I doubt Albany was a "hard ground"


Albany is in a rain belt, has a similar climate to Mt Gambier, possibly even wetter.

[Pup]

I doubt Albany was a "hard ground"


Albany is in a rain belt, has a similar climate to Mt Gambier, possibly even wetter.

Albany is a pretty ordinary surface.

[westozfalcon]

It seems that in footy the general rule of thumb is that an anterior cruciate ligament snap puts you out for 12 months.

There are exceptions to that rule. Tony Liberatore came back after an ACL reconstruction within just 3 MONTHS mid-season. OK this was in the last year of his career so he may have been happy to take a few risks compared to say a bloke with 10 years of footy ahead of him but I don't recall him being inhibited or suffering any setbacks for the remainder of that season.

I'm not a doctor but I personally believe many players could come back sooner than 12 months. I do know what the knee feels like post-op because I had a knee reconstruction myself a few years ago.

If a player did his knee pre-season and had dedicated physios and doctors overseeing his rehab every day (like an AFL player would) I reckon a comeback that same season should be achievable.

Maybe it's something to do with toughness and determination - something Libba was not short on?

[brod]

It seems that in footy the general rule of thumb is that an anterior cruciate ligament snap puts you out for 12 months.

There are exceptions to that rule. Tony Liberatore came back after an ACL reconstruction within just 3 MONTHS mid-season. OK this was in the last year of his career so he may have been happy to take a few risks compared to say a bloke with 10 years of footy ahead of him but I don't recall him being inhibited or suffering any setbacks for the remainder of that season.

I'm not a doctor but I personally believe many players could come back sooner than 12 months. I do know what the knee feels like post-op because I had a knee reconstruction myself a few years ago.

If a player did his knee pre-season and had dedicated physios and doctors overseeing his rehab every day (like an AFL player would) I reckon a comeback that same season should be achievable.

Maybe it's something to do with toughness and determination - something Libba was not short on?

There would be a few players that have had re-co's and are a far from laking in either of the twoa above attributes..
Shaun Rehn, a dedicated professional is the first that springs to mind