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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Psyber » Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:41 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:My experiences in Melbourne I have found it to be dirty and heavily polluted.Hard to argue against an asthma sufferer though but I find it hard to beleive that the air quality in Melbourne is better in Adelaide especially with 3 times the population.Dont get me wrong I love going over to Melbourne and its social scene.Definatly would not live there though.

I guess there is dirt and dirt and it depends what you are allergic to. The colour difference I described is an observable one supporting the view that the polutants are different ones. I get skin rashes in Adelaide but not in Melbourne too. As I said I suspect the stronger winds in Melbourne and the Avgas in Adelaide may be factors.

Also, we have only ever lived on the eastern side of Melbourne. The west looks a bit grim at times, but I rarely get nearer to it than South Melbourne, only the occasional drive through en route to visit family in Adelaide. Then we usually try to stay in Aldgate if it is summer - as we did in January.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:56 pm

The only way we can sustain this "new all purpose stadium" is that it has the ability to add extra seating for soccer close to the playing field as this is always the rant from soccer fans, how we fit footy and soccer during the same time of year is another thing, will have to keep Hindmarsh. It must be near established transport, have a retractable roof that can still allow grass to grow and not be based on 1/2 to 1 metre of soil on concerete as is TD. As a state we're not rolling in money so things have to be sustainable and to a close budget, so I can see the piont Rann is making, if I was him I'd be going for the hospital. People's health and well being as compared to a new stadium for the corperates and paid up members?HMMM
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Sojourner » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:49 am

Rebuilding the hospital in its current location will save many $$$ as well as keeping all the services together and not as in the current plan leaving the IMVS group at the old site.

I am not a major Australian Soccer fan, yet I am a fan of EPL. Still I concede that Soccer is growing as a sport in Adelaide and has outgrown Hindmarsh Stadium, so clearly a purpose built venue specifically for Soccer is called for in Adelaide. Yes you can play Soccer at Adelaide Oval, yet the fans are kept a long way from the action and the surface is not correct for the game.

I would like to see Hindmarsh Stadium moved and redeveloped at a site next to the Keswick railway station enabling the trains and buses to be effectively used to move large numbers of people in and out quickly. Placing the admin site along with a licensed club across the road on Greenhill Rd would cut down on the amount of space required for the project.

As much as I like Aussie Rules, having a Rugby Union side as the winter tenant of the new venue wouldent be such a bad idea either!
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Jar Man Out » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:22 pm

Sojourner wrote:I heard the same interview on 5AA and agreed with Grahams point about why not simply put the cash into Adelaide Oval. Run the Trams down there, let the Power play several home games there and the place would be jumping.

Love them or hate them Port would be a good chance of building themselves up quite some home ground advantage if they were able to make Adelaide Oval there own, with the atmosphere to boot!


then SANFL would have to negotiate profits with the SACA.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby ca » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:53 am

In my opinion a new multi purpose Stadium has to be built regardless of the World Cup which we have next to no chance of getting anyway. No matter what Mike Rann or Leigh Whicker say, AAMI Stadium is not a world class stadium no matter how much money they tip into it. It simply is out of date and not up to holding other sporting events or concerts. That is not taking anything away from all the good work done 30 years ago by the SANFL and the clubs but times have changed.

The point about how it can be financially viable is a debate that has to be had and something I don’t have all the answers too but throwing out the idea before we get there is just showing the lack of vision. I can see that a new Hospital has to be built but a new sports stadium should be on the agenda or at least open for discussion for further down the track. Eventually in about 10 to 20 years when the old boys club has moved on from the SANFL there will be a realisation that AAMI is out of date so we may as well start planning for it now.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:15 pm

I still beleive within 6 months the state government will give in and 'say' it will go ahead.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby rogernumber10 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:20 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:AFL stadiums have to be fully seated.So if they went to Adelaide Oval they would lose the hills.Not going to happen.Also im not a fan of the parklands.I see them as a haven for homeless alcoholics,drug addicts and a homosexual preditors.Yes have some parklands but we dont need them all.


This is the stuff we need on the tourist brochures when first-time visitors like JAS make it to state eventually. Surely the parklands aren't going that badly?
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby JAS » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:37 pm

rogernumber10 wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:AFL stadiums have to be fully seated.So if they went to Adelaide Oval they would lose the hills.Not going to happen.Also im not a fan of the parklands.I see them as a haven for homeless alcoholics,drug addicts and a homosexual preditors.Yes have some parklands but we dont need them all.


This is the stuff we need on the tourist brochures when first-time visitors like JAS make it to state eventually. Surely the parklands aren't going that badly?


Good job I don't take everything literally :wink: If I did then going by the Tiser site and 5aa Adelaide's streets are full of lunatics, murders and sex offenders, you're all about to die of dehydration and the only way to get anywhere is on foot :? It'll be just like home then :roll: :lol:

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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:01 pm

Take a walk along the footpath on the parklands side from West tce, down South tce around to East tce at night. Let me know the outcome :wink:
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby CUTTERMAN » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:31 am

I could write something about a certain corner of the city and events around this area but since the local journo's don't care to bring it up I wont either. That would be off topic...and agendas...there's other fish and chip wrappings to rehash and other people to burn.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Ian » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:13 am

Sojourner wrote:
I would like to see Hindmarsh Stadium moved and redeveloped at a site next to the Keswick railway station


I cant wait to see the truck that is going to carry it :!: :shock:


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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby stan » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:48 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Imho we do need a new Stadium. It is not the biggest necessity but it can generate tourism,money and just a genuine sence of pride in the South Australain sporting public.
I'd like to hear peoples proposed site plans.Btw I think all state and international cricket should stay at Adelaide Oval.
My proposal is build a new stadium in the Bonython Park vicinity.Plenty of parking and plenty of major roads connecting.
The government would build the state of the art stadium and then give it to the SANFL and in return the SANFL would give the government all of the land in and around footy park so the government can sell it of to housing developers??


Well good luck with that. I reckon its a top idea but remember this is adelaide and getting something built in adelaide is like getting into the members at adelaide oval...
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Ian » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:56 am

Related storys in the Advertiser

AAMI Stadium may be bulldozed for footy's new home
MICHELANGELO RUCCI, CHIEF FOOTBALL WRITER
March 07, 2008 12:10am
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23333294-5006301,00.html
Includes main story, readers comments and a poll to "Pick your stadium option"

Govt prefers roads to new stadium
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http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23333296-5006301,00.html
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:05 pm

But why does the government dismiss it straight away.At least look at it and don't rule it out. They have one of Australias biggest companies next door to AAMI in Westfield.What if the government built the stadium in Bonython Park,gave it to the SANFL.Sold the land of footy park to Westfield who could build a shopping centre even bigger than the current one (Could even make it similar to Chadstone in Melbourne and make it a massive fashion central) and sell the rest of the land off for more as it would be next to such a shopping centre. It would give them a lesser bill and then they can rebuild the RAH in its current location which would also save money (Relocating being cheaper is bullshit). These are ideas and not throwing water over the fire straight away. When the opinion polls start changing you watch the change in the SA govt.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby eaglehaslanded » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:31 pm

A large multi-purpose stadium in the heart of the CBD similar to Telstra Dome will only enhance the game of Aussie Rules in SA even further. It would have to be seen as a good thing I would have thought.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Ian » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:14 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:(Relocating being cheaper is bullshit).
Not when you take into consideration the extra cost of having to work around a hospital that still has to go about it's day to day buisiness, let alone the unavoidable disruptions to patients, staff and visitors. Rebuilding roads would be a lot quicker and cheaper if they could completely close them while work was happening on the upgrades, but that is not possible, building a hospital while the old one operates uninterupted is possible.

With the money that the Govt. has already pumped into the white elephant at West lakes, why would they want to see it torn down just so they (and all of us that pay taxes etc.) can help pay for it. As a tax payer I'd much rather see the money go towards improving roads that I use every day rather than a stadium that I might go to once a year for the SANFL GF, and perhaps one Essendon game.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:50 am

Ian wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:(Relocating being cheaper is bullshit).
Not when you take into consideration the extra cost of having to work around a hospital that still has to go about it's day to day buisiness, let alone the unavoidable disruptions to patients, staff and visitors. Rebuilding roads would be a lot quicker and cheaper if they could completely close them while work was happening on the upgrades, but that is not possible, building a hospital while the old one operates uninterupted is possible.

With the money that the Govt. has already pumped into the white elephant at West lakes, why would they want to see it torn down just so they (and all of us that pay taxes etc.) can help pay for it. As a tax payer I'd much rather see the money go towards improving roads that I use every day rather than a stadium that I might go to once a year for the SANFL GF, and perhaps one Essendon game.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:57 am

Fair enough Ian,so how do you feel about a tram line that takes you the casino rather than just to Victoria Square,how hard is it to walk 300 metres to the casino. Im just confused about the current governmnent and what their priorities are. My main opinion is that labour are just plain f*****g useless............
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Ian » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:37 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Fair enough Ian,so how do you feel about a tram line that takes you the casino rather than just to Victoria Square,how hard is it to walk 300 metres to the casino. Im just confused about the current governmnent and what their priorities are. My main opinion is that labour are just plain f*****g useless............
If the tram line stays as it is, it'll be a waste, if it is extended again, back into the suburbs then the recently completed extension will have been money well spent. As for feeling that labor are "f*****g useless", you must be real impressed with the quality of oposition in SA at the moment. :roll:

I wouldn't totally rule out a new stadium for the future, but SA's essential infrastructure (roads, hospitals, water mains etc.) has fallen so far behind the past 30 or so years I think it's more important to catch up where past governments (both Labor & Liberal) have fallen behind first, then look at stuff like a new stadium later.
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Re: New South Australian Stadium

Postby Hondo » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:51 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Im just confused about the current governmnent and what their priorities are. My main opinion is that labour are just plain f*****g useless............


Ahh ... now we get to the guts of the issue. I was actually starting to wonder if this was about Football or about Politics :wink:

I'm with Ian - there's other things for the State to focus on rather than shifting a Football Stadium 10km East :roll: How precious have some of us become if we think a 20 minute drive is too much anymore? This has been a bizarre debate to me but I suspect its partly to do with party politics TBH

Maybe one day when our water, health and transport issues are all sorted we can build our new stadium, if they did it now then you are right .... we would all be questioning their priorities.

Mods .... time for this thread to go off to the politics forum where it belongs? :D
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