Are the Roos the worst PF team ever?

[Dirko]

Short answer. NO.
Do they deserve to be in a PF. YES.

'97,'98 Crows and '99 Carlton were worse.
STK in '05 not far behind the Roos

So Carlton beat Essendon in the 99 PF. So wouldn't that make Essendon worse ?

[Hondo]

I'd be happy for a Mod to lock it up we are not going achieve anything

Oh yes, freedom of speech not allowed these days.

Yes, fair enough then ..... go your hardest!!

I said 'lock it up' because I have seen these sort of threads get very ugly but, as you say, everyone's entitled to an opinion!

[NFC]

Hondo

what is alarming for me is this finals we are finally seeing the affect of the rule changes to our great game,

new interpertation to the out of bounds, hands in the back, holding the ball, other rules, not to mention the kick in's, have made the game quicker, removing a lot of the one on one contests.

this has had a huge impact on the traditional type of finals footy

personally, I am missing the hard ball contests, the game has become too technical, the whistle blows and the viewer / supporters have no idea which way it will go, especially marking and ruck contests

Agree, HOWEVER, last night's game was very well officiated IMO. They let pretty much everything go.

Tonight's umpiring was awful though, the Hawks were robbed.

[Dutchy]

so the Umpiring was the sole reason the Hawks lost?

[NFC]

your arguement falls flat on the fact that Collingwood are in the PF also and have won less games thans the Roos with travelling outside Melbourne 4 times compared to the Roos 10....still waiting for the PM

Afraid to make it public? I've actually never bet on a sporting occasion, not my thing.

But that doesn’t change the fact the Roos will not make the 8 in 2008.

[Dirko]

Hondo

what is alarming for me is this finals we are finally seeing the affect of the rule changes to our great game,

new interpertation to the out of bounds, hands in the back, holding the ball, other rules, not to mention the kick in's, have made the game quicker, removing a lot of the one on one contests.

this has had a huge impact on the traditional type of finals footy

personally, I am missing the hard ball contests, the game has become too technical, the whistle blows and the viewer / supporters have no idea which way it will go, especially marking and ruck contests

Agree, HOWEVER, last night's game was very well officiated IMO. They let pretty much everything go.

Tonight's umpiring was awful though, the Hawks were robbed.

Had a good mate who is a Hawks man and member watching the game with me tonight...he said the umpiring was Ok as the Hawks were undisciplined...especially in front of goal.

[Dutchy]

He he...good back down

if you want to make it public Im prepared to wager $500- right here right now...

[NFC]

so the Umpiring was the sole reason the Hawks lost?

I said that did I? The umpiring was clearly in favour of the Roos, but no, it's not the reason they lost.

They had no run all night, their skills were deplorable, and their stars in Hodge, Mitchell, Franklin and co all had shockers.

[sydney-dog]

Mr66

mate, are you still crying that Port finished minor premiers and choked

if this is how you feel, go and support Man Utd in the Premier League

[NFC]

He he...good back down

if you want to make it public Im prepared to wager $500- right here right now...

You can try and make me look like a chicken all you like, I'm not a betting man.

Why would I make a $500 bet with someone I've never met? What a ridiculous thing to do.

[Dirko]

so the Umpiring was the sole reason the Hawks lost?

I said that did I? The umpiring was clearly in favour of the Roos, but no, it's not the reason they lost.

They had no run all night, their skills were deplorable, and their stars in Hodge, Mitchell, Franklin and co all had shockers.

mmm had nothing to do with the midfield pressure from the Roos at all...
The Roos consistently pushed Hawthorn out wide, which broke down the run on which the love...

[Dutchy]

Tonight's umpiring was awful though, the Hawks were robbed.

The umpiring was clearly in favour of the Roos, but no, it's not the reason they lost.

So they were robbed but it wasnt the reason they lost?

[NFC]

Tonight's umpiring was awful though, the Hawks were robbed.

The umpiring was clearly in favour of the Roos, but no, it's not the reason they lost.

So they were robbed but it wasnt the reason they lost?

Bang that head all you like. That's what I was doing when I had to endure Harvey's celebration late in the game.

[Dutchy]

Why would I make a $500 bet with someone I've never met? What a ridiculous thing to do.

easy we give $500- each now to someone we both trust and the winner takes all...not that hard

[sydney-dog]

last time I checked

their is no "I" in TEAM

this is why the Kanga's are a good team, this is why the crows in 97 and 98 were a good team

good teams produce under pressure, those sides that finish in top 2 after the minor round and fail to win the flag, don't deserve to be called good teams, including the crows of 2005

[NFC]

Why would I make a $500 bet with someone I've never met? What a ridiculous thing to do.

easy we give $500- each now to someone we both trust and the winner takes all...not that hard

Did you misread the post where I said I'm not a betting man?

I’ve never even bet on the GF for crying out loud!

[Mr66]

Short answer. NO.
Do they deserve to be in a PF. YES.

'97,'98 Crows and '99 Carlton were worse.
STK in '05 not far behind the Roos

So Carlton beat Essendon in the 99 PF. So wouldn't that make Essendon worse ?

No, just unlucky.
Doesn't anyone think that luck plays a major role in sport?

[sydney-dog]

NFC

or the WINNER can donate the $500 to a charity of their choice,

that way it's not a bet, its a donation

[NFC]

NFC

or the WINNER can donate the $500 to a charity of their choice,

that way it's not a bet, its a donation

Stop trying to send me broke.

[sydney-dog]

Mr66

when you have a champion team up against the worse team to ever make a GF, No luck does not play a role