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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 11:47 am
by morell
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Ken finally picks a Ruckman and it's the returning Paddy Ryder....from an extended layoff due to an achilles injury.....for a trip to Perth to play on a very hard surface.....any Port fans concerned by this?

Many.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 11:57 am
by whufc
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Runners are required, what if there's a change in tactic, the bench can see stuff the players can't onfield, maybe a rotating tag or they spot something the opposition are doing and need to counteract it.

What about when there's 3 minutes to go and you're up by 9 points, the players get this info from the runners.

I don't think there's much concern with razzing up the opposition as a runner, they can listen and respond or ignore it.


Or the players could use there bwwaaaaaaaaains and figure that out for themselves!!!

In most cases the whole bench is standing up screaming at the players anyway.

Mate, quarters range from 23 minutes to 33 minutes, I umpire games with time on and you really have no gauge on how much extra time is being recorded.
Do you think you'd hear the bench from the other side of the ground in the dying minutes at a packed Adelaide Oval or Etihad?


I think it would add to the spectacle if players didn't know and exact time.

Player scream at each other that much it doesn't take much to get a message across, in fact it probably moves quicker than a runner having to run 150m out there.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:09 pm
by Lightning McQueen
whufc wrote:
I think it would add to the spectacle if players didn't know and exact time.

Player scream at each other that much it doesn't take much to get a message across, in fact it probably moves quicker than a runner having to run 150m out there.


OK, would've thought a quiet message in the ear would be more beneficial than screaming out for the other team to hear what's happening next.

I'll leave it there now.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:14 pm
by Dutchy
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Ken finally picks a Ruckman and it's the returning Paddy Ryder....from an extended layoff due to an achilles injury.....for a trip to Perth to play on a very hard surface.....any Port fans concerned by this?


Against Nick Nat also.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:15 pm
by whufc
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
I think it would add to the spectacle if players didn't know and exact time.

Player scream at each other that much it doesn't take much to get a message across, in fact it probably moves quicker than a runner having to run 150m out there.


OK, would've thought a quiet message in the ear would be more beneficial than screaming out for the other team to hear what's happening next.

I'll leave it there now.


When a team is going to go defensive in the last couple of minutes of the game as per your example you don't think the other team know what's coming.

It's pretty obvious when the majority of players on the field are sprinting from one end of the pitch to the other.

I just think in the age of over analysis we over emphasis the importance of the 'runner' Many other sports in the world can cope without one just find.

People may say oh but a soccer field isn't as big. Having gone to an AFL GF and many European soccer matches the noise levels are uncomparable. 40k at a pumping EPL game is like 100k at the MCG.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:16 pm
by Dutchy
Runners aren't used for rotations these days, players know their times to rotate etc and if they are unsure the bench players will stand up on the side line to indicate its time.

For tactics, change of positions and personal messages it is critical.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:20 pm
by MW
I have no problems with runners. I agree with the AFLs penalty though mainly because could you imagine if Goldstein grabbed Cornes for what he said...then Goldstein probably gets a 12 week suspension whereas if he grabs a player for swearing at him, its play on.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:31 pm
by heater31
Dutchy wrote:Runners aren't used for rotations these days, players know their times to rotate etc and if they are unsure the bench players will stand up on the side line to indicate its time.

For tactics, change of positions and personal messages it is critical.
Still used for rotation reminders and changes on the fly due to injuries.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:33 pm
by Lightning McQueen
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
I think it would add to the spectacle if players didn't know and exact time.

Player scream at each other that much it doesn't take much to get a message across, in fact it probably moves quicker than a runner having to run 150m out there.


OK, would've thought a quiet message in the ear would be more beneficial than screaming out for the other team to hear what's happening next.

I'll leave it there now.


When a team is going to go defensive in the last couple of minutes of the game as per your example you don't think the other team know what's coming.

It's pretty obvious when the majority of players on the field are sprinting from one end of the pitch to the other.

I just think in the age of over analysis we over emphasis the importance of the 'runner' Many other sports in the world can cope without one just find.

People may say oh but a soccer field isn't as big. Having gone to an AFL GF and many European soccer matches the noise levels are uncomparable. 40k at a pumping EPL game is like 100k at the MCG.


3 minutes to go, 9 points up? I wouldn't totally lock in defensive mode, I'd rather try and get 15 points up with 2 to go and lock the 4 points in, there is my point.

Not sure soccer is a great comparison, we're talking of a game where between 15 and 35 goals are scored compared to a game where 0 to 5 are scored, games don't really get turned on their head too often in the space of a couple of minutes in round ball.

The rules in soccer keep the players closer together on the field too, footballers can be spread out over 9000 square metres.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:06 pm
by Brodlach
Clurey and Trengove the travelling emergencies

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:15 pm
by MW
No SPP or Rockliff this week. Sorry if it's been discussed, but what's going on there?

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:18 pm
by Lightning McQueen
MW wrote:No SPP or Rockliff this week. Sorry if it's been discussed, but what's going on there?


My take.........................but I'm pretty stupid.
Lightning McQueen wrote:
JK wrote:Who are Port likely to take as travelking emergencies? I'm guessing Clurey would be one, but hearing Johnston might be in doubt so not sure who they might take as cover

Clurey isn't named for SANFL duties tonight.

I'd say SPP wont play tonight but will tomorrow as a late inclusion, they will not name him earlier to avoid speculation and media build up.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:35 pm
by daysofourlives
Absolutely no way Ryder plays, Clurey will replace him

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:43 pm
by MW
Lightning McQueen wrote:
MW wrote:No SPP or Rockliff this week. Sorry if it's been discussed, but what's going on there?


My take.........................but I'm pretty stupid.
Lightning McQueen wrote:
JK wrote:Who are Port likely to take as travelking emergencies? I'm guessing Clurey would be one, but hearing Johnston might be in doubt so not sure who they might take as cover

Clurey isn't named for SANFL duties tonight.

I'd say SPP wont play tonight but will tomorrow as a late inclusion, they will not name him earlier to avoid speculation and media build up.


Good point.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 3:37 pm
by Brodlach
daysofourlives wrote:Absolutely no way Ryder plays, Clurey will replace him

Why fly him over there then?

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 3:42 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Brodlach wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Absolutely no way Ryder plays, Clurey will replace him

Why fly him over there then?

To keep from being unsupervised in Adelaide?

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:03 pm
by DOC
Brodlach wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Absolutely no way Ryder plays, Clurey will replace him

Why fly him over there then?

family

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:10 pm
by Sheik Yerbouti
Booney wrote:
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:Port defeated WC away past 2 meets, WC won past 3 in Adelaide v Port. Something to be learnt from the Sydney Kardinnia Park form?


We haven't played at Optus yet... ;)

On Optus, lots of noise coming from players saying it's as hard as Etihad is to recover from.


Barstards, took the boosted $3.65 earlier in the week & then they pick Sarah Jesssica in the team. Should blow to $5 now.

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:14 pm
by Yangebup
Wayne Carey was ruthless on Wingard having a shot for goal after hurting his left hammy & said he coud've done further damage.

Hows Wingards reply on 7 news last night.....said he had the shot as he wasn't sure if he could put the ball on the ground, & didn't know

the rules in that regard.........Oh PLEEEAAZZE

Re: Port Adelaide 2018

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 7:55 pm
by Wedgie
Yangebup wrote:Wayne Carey was ruthless on Wingard having a shot for goal after hurting his left hammy & said he coud've done further damage.

Hows Wingards reply on 7 news last night.....said he had the shot as he wasn't sure if he could put the ball on the ground, & didn't know

the rules in that regard.........Oh PLEEEAAZZE

Sweet geezus :shock: