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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Coach Bombay » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:07 pm

Would love to know how many Rutten has had kicked on him this year, i reckon it would approx 6 goals.
Hurley 0
Brown 0
Schulz 1
Cordy 0
Rowe/Hampson/Warnock 0
Roughead 1
Giles/Brogan/Various 1
Maister 0
Daw/Petrie 2 (not sure if Rutten was on him for the first goal)
Hannath/Clarke 1
Mumford/Pyke 0 (from memory White was on Otten and then Talia)
Vickery 0 (again don't remember him playing on J Riewoldt much)
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby cripple » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:41 pm

Will get laughed at for this but the crows seem to be in a similar pattern to Geelong of 2004-2006. Had a good year (cats in 05) that displayed some potential but fell of the year after. Crows are the 4th or 5th youngest list in the league and the player's we will lose in the next few years such as Reilly, Johncock and Tambling will be more a positive then negative for us. Main ones we need to cover are Rutten mainly and Thompson to a lesser extent. Hopefully with the extra cash we have in the cap after the Tippett debacle the club can attract someone that will go.someway to covering our Draft penalties.

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby stan » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:51 pm

cripple wrote:Will get laughed at for this but the crows seem to be in a similar pattern to Geelong of 2004-2006. Had a good year (cats in 05) that displayed some potential but fell of the year after. Crows are the 4th or 5th youngest list in the league and the player's we will lose in the next few years such as Reilly, Johncock and Tambling will be more a positive then negative for us. Main ones we need to cover are Rutten mainly and Thompson to a lesser extent. Hopefully with the extra cash we have in the cap after the Tippett debacle the club can attract someone that will go.someway to covering our Draft penalties.

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You will find it hard to get a star or emerging star to Adelaide. I think Johncock might be on the way out but his SANFL hasnt been awful. Reilly seems to have lost it again and well Tambling.........Yeah.

I think not having a first round pick in this years draft will hurt you like us, as we traded it for Wellingham, still the draft was very good. Also this next draft again will start to leave a hole in the future. Yes Crouch is coming through and he is a ripper, but Thompson is starting to fade slowly (still goes pretty well).
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Jim05 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:35 pm

Has been mentioned that the Cows are after LeCras who is a free agent at end of year
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:30 am

cripple wrote:Will get laughed at for this but the crows seem to be in a similar pattern to Geelong of 2004-2006. Had a good year (cats in 05) that displayed some potential but fell of the year after. Crows are the 4th or 5th youngest list in the league and the player's we will lose in the next few years such as Reilly, Johncock and Tambling will be more a positive then negative for us. Main ones we need to cover are Rutten mainly and Thompson to a lesser extent. Hopefully with the extra cash we have in the cap after the Tippett debacle the club can attract someone that will go.someway to covering our Draft penalties.

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You wish. The Cats made the Prelim in 2004. We had Bartel, Ablett, Johnson, Corey, Enright, Mackie, Scarlett, Mooney and you have Dangerfield the end. If Tex comes back Adelaide will improve but I can't see you winning a flag once those draft penalties begin to bit.

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby stan » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:54 am

Jim05 wrote:Has been mentioned that the Cows are after LeCras who is a free agent at end of year


That would be the best chance of interstate teams getting experiance player. Target other interstate teams as getting experianced players out of Victoria is not easy. I didnt know they would target LeCras but then again they wont be the only ones.

Port got Monfries, but yes he was on the outer at Essendon. Adelaide got Jacobs a few seasons back but he was 3rd inline at Carlton at the time. So nyes it does happen, but your not going to say get a Trengrove back, or a Gibbs back to SA.
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Hefty » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:58 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
cripple wrote:Will get laughed at for this but the crows seem to be in a similar pattern to Geelong of 2004-2006. Had a good year (cats in 05) that displayed some potential but fell of the year after. Crows are the 4th or 5th youngest list in the league and the player's we will lose in the next few years such as Reilly, Johncock and Tambling will be more a positive then negative for us. Main ones we need to cover are Rutten mainly and Thompson to a lesser extent. Hopefully with the extra cash we have in the cap after the Tippett debacle the club can attract someone that will go.someway to covering our Draft penalties.

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You wish. The Cats made the Prelim in 2004. We had Bartel, Ablett, Johnson, Corey, Enright, Mackie, Scarlett, Mooney and you have Dangerfield the end. If Tex comes back Adelaide will improve but I can't see you winning a flag once those draft penalties begin to bit.

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REB, the similarities are there......

Bartel = Sloane
Ablett = Dangerfield
Mooney = Walker (this is being harsh on TEX cos Mooney was a spud of the highest order!)
Mackie = Smith
Scarlett = Talia
Enright = Laird
Johnson = Crouch


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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Stumps » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:54 am

I was with you until the bottom two hefty !
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Mr Beefy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:00 pm

Hefty wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
cripple wrote:Will get laughed at for this but the crows seem to be in a similar pattern to Geelong of 2004-2006. Had a good year (cats in 05) that displayed some potential but fell of the year after. Crows are the 4th or 5th youngest list in the league and the player's we will lose in the next few years such as Reilly, Johncock and Tambling will be more a positive then negative for us. Main ones we need to cover are Rutten mainly and Thompson to a lesser extent. Hopefully with the extra cash we have in the cap after the Tippett debacle the club can attract someone that will go.someway to covering our Draft penalties.

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You wish. The Cats made the Prelim in 2004. We had Bartel, Ablett, Johnson, Corey, Enright, Mackie, Scarlett, Mooney and you have Dangerfield the end. If Tex comes back Adelaide will improve but I can't see you winning a flag once those draft penalties begin to bit.

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REB, the similarities are there......

Bartel > Sloane
Ablett > Dangerfield
Mooney = Walker (this is being harsh on TEX cos Mooney was a spud of the highest order!)
Mackie > Smith
Scarlett > Talia
Enright > Laird
Johnson > Crouch
Selwood > ?
Ottens > ?
Corey > ?
Milburn >
Chapman >
Kelly = ?
etc..


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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:17 pm

[quote="HeftyMooney = Walker (this is being harsh on TEX cos Mooney was a spud of the highest order!)


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What bullshit. He carried us in the Ruck, at CHB and up FWD when our midfield was a bunch of kids. Don't judge him on the 2008 Granny or his last season and compare that to Tex's ONE good season. LMAO. If Tex isn't at FF, he's nothing.

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:20 pm

Nah Beefy

Mooney>Walker.

People forget how good Moons was as his best was 2001-2006. By the time the Cats graduated Moons was in decline. When were losing by three goals every week Mooney was absolutely massive in a multitude of positions. Walker is a one trick pony...good trick, but throw him at CHB and in the Ruck then try and tell me he is as good as Mooney.

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:21 pm

Stumps wrote:I was with you until the bottom two hefty !


Sloane equal to Bartel BWAHAHAHAA. I rate Sloane but come on.

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Mr Beefy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:21 pm

Thought I'd give Hefty and the crows one equivalent...
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:27 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:Thought I'd give Hefty and the crows one equivalent...


Our coach went to join them for the cash. Give them nothing. Stop fuelling the Advertiser fantasies. ;)

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Hefty » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:34 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Nah Beefy

Mooney>Walker.

People forget how good Moons was as his best was 2001-2006. By the time the Cats graduated Moons was in decline. When were losing by three goals every week Mooney was absolutely massive in a multitude of positions. Walker is a one trick pony...good trick, but throw him at CHB and in the Ruck then try and tell me he is as good as Mooney.

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Mooney was the most overated player in the Cats lineup. Easy to kick (or should i say miss) goals when you have quality delivery each week from the likes of Ablett, Corey, Sloane...sorry Bartel etc....
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:29 pm

Hefty wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
cripple wrote:Will get laughed at for this but the crows seem to be in a similar pattern to Geelong of 2004-2006. Had a good year (cats in 05) that displayed some potential but fell of the year after. Crows are the 4th or 5th youngest list in the league and the player's we will lose in the next few years such as Reilly, Johncock and Tambling will be more a positive then negative for us. Main ones we need to cover are Rutten mainly and Thompson to a lesser extent. Hopefully with the extra cash we have in the cap after the Tippett debacle the club can attract someone that will go.someway to covering our Draft penalties.

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You wish. The Cats made the Prelim in 2004. We had Bartel, Ablett, Johnson, Corey, Enright, Mackie, Scarlett, Mooney and you have Dangerfield the end. If Tex comes back Adelaide will improve but I can't see you winning a flag once those draft penalties begin to bit.
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REB, the similarities are there......
Bartel = Sloane
Ablett = Dangerfield
Mooney = Walker (this is being harsh on TEX cos Mooney was a spud of the highest order!)
Mackie = Smith
Scarlett = Talia
Enright = Laird
Johnson = Crouch
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I concede they are all human. Beyond that I fail to see the similarities*.



*Bar the Ablett / Dangerfield.

Mackie = Smith Ahahahahahahahaha
Enright = Laird 2x Ahaahahahahahahah
Crouch!!! Isnt even in the friggin' team!!!
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:01 pm

Hefty wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Nah Beefy

Mooney>Walker.

People forget how good Moons was as his best was 2001-2006. By the time the Cats graduated Moons was in decline. When were losing by three goals every week Mooney was absolutely massive in a multitude of positions. Walker is a one trick pony...good trick, but throw him at CHB and in the Ruck then try and tell me he is as good as Mooney.

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Mooney was the most overated player in the Cats lineup. Easy to kick (or should i say miss) goals when you have quality delivery each week from the likes of Ablett, Corey, Sloane...sorry Bartel etc....


Comprehension fail. When Mooney was in his peak Corey was undersized, Bartel was in the magoos and Ablett was a forward. If anything your comments tend to suggest that Mooney was underrated. No Cat who is actually old enough to remember the bad old days will ever hear a bad word against Moondog because he carried us, particularly in the ruck and in the backline when we had blokes like Kingsley, Hall and Burns running around the forwardline. Moons peak was before our team became gunnage...repeat Moons peak was before our team started winning matches and finals regularly.

For what it's worth I reckon most overrated Cat probably goes to Harley, although he was very good when he and Scarlo first formed a partnership in the backline in the early noughties.

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Stumps » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:42 pm

I'm with you REB about this crows v cats argument but to say mooney was at his peak when bartel was in the twos is a fallacy. He was AA in 2007 and had a good patch between 2005-2010 where he was a serviceable forward. In 2002-4 he received all 1 of his 13 brownlow votes and by 2005 bartel was somewhere between a good player and a gun. I know you are a die hard cat, but reckon your memory is inflated of moons due to the passion and effort he put in in the early 00's rather than the quality of his footy. Just an opinion Too FWIW :D
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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby cripple » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:10 pm

All very relevant points but if you were to list those geelong players in 05 and 06 they had potential but hadn't done much. Wasn't until the north game in 07 where things started to change and players like johnson and chapman performed at a more a consistent level. All I have said is the crows are in a similar pattern as the cats were in, be a stretch to think our next 5 years would be anything like geelongs 2007-now, but the basis is there with dangerfield leading the way.

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Re: Adelaide 2013

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:24 am

Stumps wrote:I'm with you REB about this crows v cats argument but to say mooney was at his peak when bartel was in the twos is a fallacy. He was AA in 2007 and had a good patch between 2005-2010 where he was a serviceable forward. In 2002-4 he received all 1 of his 13 brownlow votes and by 2005 bartel was somewhere between a good player and a gun. I know you are a die hard cat, but reckon your memory is inflated of moons due to the passion and effort he put in in the early 00's rather than the quality of his footy. Just an opinion Too FWIW :D



Brownlow votes?? LMAO.

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