The truth about the Power

[silent hour]

No, just another composite side like the Crows.

With the draft and salary cap, every side is a composite side IMHO. There is no incentive for AFL clubs to develop players in zones.

Port Power were born of the Magpies, yes. They claim that tradition, yes. Do I hate what they did to the SANFL in 1990? Yes. They are still a composite team though.

Let me know when a Port Power supporter agrees with you.

[Rotter]

"The truth about the Power"

Unfortunately their position on the ladder last year has given all but the realists the idea that they are better than they actually are. Unfortunately for their supporters, their current position on the ladder probably is a little more accurate though I don't think 0-4 is a true reflection either.

[southee]

No, just another composite side like the Crows.[/quote] from Wedgie

Have to agree. The power are not going to gain anymore fans. You either love em or hate em. Simple. Port are used to success, when they are not history shows the fans stay away.

To see the fans walk away at before the end of a game without cheering there side over the line on the weekend was a disgrace!!! Goes to show the loyality some Port supporters have

Bring in the composite side now, North of the Torrens and South of the Torrens...easy!!!

[Booney]

The truth about the Power?

They have played in 4 of the last 6 prelim finals (02-3-4-7) winning 2 and losing 2.

They have played in 2 of the last 4 Grand finals,winning 1 and losing 1.

And you blokes think we need to be kicked out the comp?

[Hondo]

I am not a Port fan but anyone who suggests that they need to exit the comp and be replaced by some random composite side is either simply trolling or can't see past their hatred of the club. I'll stand corrected but I think they have the best win-loss record of any team in the period since their inception. That's better than Brisbane, Geelong, Essendon .... everyone.

Love them or hate them, Port had to be the second AFL team from SA and the rivalry between Crows and Power reflects that it was the right decision. Crows and Power fans wouldn't have it any other way despite what the South Australians who hate both clubs would like to think.

On the topic of supporters attending games, before we start on Port how about someone explain why the North Melb 'rally' game v Melbourne only got 23,000

Its interesting talking to mates with primary school aged kids who haven't grown up with the all the history of hatred. Those kids mostly pick one of Port or the Crows but don't get fussed if the other team wins and seemingly they see the 2 sides as South Australian and, at some level, support both. The next generation is where Port's new supporters will come from IMO.

[Dutchy]

The truth about the Power?

They have played in 4 of the last 6 prelim finals (02-3-4-7) winning 2 and losing 2.

They have played in 2 of the last 4 Grand finals,winning 1 and losing 1.

And you blokes think we need to be kicked out the comp?

Welcome to my world Booney...................welcome.............to...............my...............world...................................................

[SCD]

I am not a Port fan but anyone who suggests that they need to exit the comp and be replaced by some random composite side is either simply trolling or can't see past their hatred of the club. I'll stand corrected but I think they have the best win-loss record of any team in the period since their inception. That's better than Brisbane, Geelong, Essendon .... everyone.

Kick them out? How naive and stupid Another composite side to compete for supporters with the Crows? Even more stupid ....

Love them or hate them, Port had to be the second AFL team from SA and the rivalry between Crows and Power reflects that it was the right decision. Crows and Power fans wouldn't have it any other way despite what the South Australians who hate both clubs would like to think.

On the topic of supporters attending games, before we start on Port how about someone explain why the North Melb 'rally' game v Melbourne only got 23,000

Its interesting talking to mates with primary school aged kids who haven't grown up with the all the history of hatred. Those kids mostly pick one of Port or the Crows but don't get fussed if the other team wins and seemingly they see the 2 sides as South Australian and, at some level, support both. The next generation is where Port's new supporters will come from IMO.

Completely agree they needed to be the 2nd team. As much as I hate them - they are what Adelaide as a city needed for a good rivalry.

Now - my son is 5, and while we live in Melbounre, he hates Port Adelaide (and Hawthorn because of the final last year ).

He sees how much I hate the filth - to say the new breed of supporters is coming though there is a little wishful on Port's behalf - families grow up with either a Port or Crows mentality due to the rivalry or they support a different club (enter here DUTCHY) and hate both the of the Crows & Power.... I'm sure they will continue to struggle for numbers for years and years to come.

[Wedgie]

Their performance has minimal to do with the point.
The fact that another Crows clone would bring more people through the gate and bring people to the game as opposed to turning them off is mine and others opinion and Ports crowd figures of the last 11 years back up my opinion with cold hard facts.
To insult mine and others opinion without presenting any facts to state why theyre incorrect is just plain rude, disrespectful and childish.
Its all speculative as noone could accurately estimate what another composite side would bring to games.
I speculate theyd bring more to the table than Port.
I respect others views and if they think another team wouldnt bring more to the table then so be it, Im not going to start calling them naive or accuse them of hatred because I disagree with them.
Can people please leave the personal insults out of their posts as thats not what this site is about.
This site is about people having opinions and expressing them, if anyone feels the need to insult others because of their opinions and put a reign on free speech Id suggest they dont as theyre on the wrong site.
Cheers.

PS And if any Geelong supporter could hate the Powder. They contributed to the best day of our lives!

[hearts on fire]

The truth about the Power?

They have played in 4 of the last 6 prelim finals (02-3-4-7) winning 2 and losing 2.

They have played in 2 of the last 4 Grand finals,winning 1 and losing 1.

And you blokes think we need to be kicked out the comp?

I couldn't agree more

[Hondo]

Wedgie - apologies for any offence. I tried to add a to keep it tongue in cheek and I wasn't singling you out it's my opinion on that issue directed at no-one in particular. Other than potentially my old mate Jar Man Out and his st..... st.... st... um .... OPINION about a 3rd AFL side from SA.

There's no hard facts that I can present to counter your opinion because its speculation on both sides. The best I can offer is the fact that this concept has never been raised seriously by the AFL, the SANFL, Central Districts FC, any other SANFL club, the media, the Crows, the Power ... anyone. If the concept had legs then 10 years on would be enough time for someone to raise it seriously IMO. Based on banter on this site, every existing football supporter in SA who doesn't support Port or Crows either have another AFL team or hate the AFL on principle. So unless people are going to abandon their current team and jump on a band-wagon I can't see how any more than 20,000 would go to their games.

Your opinion is as good as mine - you're right to say no-one should be personally insulted for expressing an opinion.

Crowds at Port's games are an issue for them definitely, is it enough in isolation to boot them out? I don't think so. As far as I am aware, they are profitable and not needing any extra financial AFL assistance, like other teams. On field, there is no way have they underachieved as several posters have given facts on.

[Wedgie]

No worries mate, unfortunately dont see smileys on my phone as I have images turned off so might have taken you too seriously.

Port supporters shouldnt be offended by my comment. I know I was never offended when people called my teams a joke like North in 03 or 89. In fact I would have been agreeing with them.

[evans01]

Their performance has minimal to do with the point.
The fact that another Crows clone would bring more people through the gate and bring people to the game as opposed to turning them off is mine and others opinion and Ports crowd figures of the last 11 years back up my opinion with cold hard facts.
To insult mine and others opinion without presenting any facts to state why theyre incorrect is just plain rude, disrespectful and childish.
Its all speculative as noone could accurately estimate what another composite side would bring to games.
I speculate theyd bring more to the table than Port.
I respect others views and if they think another team wouldnt bring more to the table then so be it, Im not going to start calling them naive or accuse them of hatred because I disagree with them.
Can people please leave the personal insults out of their posts as thats not what this site is about.
This site is about people having opinions and expressing them, if anyone feels the need to insult others because of their opinions and put a reign on free speech Id suggest they dont as theyre on the wrong site.
Cheers.

PS And if any Geelong supporter could hate the Powder. They contributed to the best day of our lives!

so wot you suggest getting rid of the Power and replacing them with another composite side???
i believe that that is plain rude,insulting and childish.......................
sure i believe the competition has far to many teams but lets look at some other "facts", wot about the large number of victorian side that havent seen success in many many years and also pull low crowds?....

[Leaping Lindner]

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On the topic of supporters attending games, before we start on Port how about someone explain why the North Melb 'rally' game v Melbourne only got 23,000

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(1). North have over 30,000 members but unfortunately dead grandparents and family pets don't go to games.
(2). It's been so long since they went to a game that Melbourne supporters don't know where the MCG is anymore

[Wedgie]

so wot you suggest getting rid of the Power and replacing them with another composite side???
i believe that that is plain rude,insulting and childish.......................
sure i believe the competition has far to many teams but lets look at some other "facts", wot about the large number of victorian side that havent seen success in many many years and also pull low crowds?....

How is it rude, childish and insultive?

If any team in Victoria or even outer Mongolia has had crowds go backwards as much as Port have whilst playing a terrible brand of football and have recently lost grand finals by nigh on 20 goals recently while not winning a game in 08 and were formed in the last 15 years Im all for giving them the arse too.
This thread is about Port though.

[evans01]

so wot you suggest getting rid of the Power and replacing them with another composite side???
i believe that that is plain rude,insulting and childish.......................
sure i believe the competition has far to many teams but lets look at some other "facts", wot about the large number of victorian side that havent seen success in many many years and also pull low crowds?....

How is it rude, childish and insultive?

If any team in Victoria or even outer Mongolia has had crowds go backwards as much as Port have whilst playing a terrible brand of football and have recently lost grand finals by nigh on 20 goals recently while not winning a game in 08 and were formed in the last 15 years Im all for giving them the arse too.
This thread is about Port though.

read your post you said "rude childish and insult".....i merely echoed you words...........

once again maybe look at the underperforming Victorian teams........ Wedgie this is an discussion no-one will win the Power like it or loath it are here to stay........

GO THE POWER!!!!

End of Discussion......

[Wedgie]

The Power are definately here to stay mate, I have no doubt about that so we can agree on one thing!;)
My proposal is pie in the sky stuff that will never happen, I acknowledge that, doesnt stop me dreaming about how we could make football better in this state just like I dream of the world being a better place too!
If it makes you feel any better Id love to see the Power in another GF.
Geelong have room for improvement and I think we could better 119 points next time.

[GWW]

The Power are definately here to stay mate, I have no doubt about that so we can agree on one thing!;)
My proposal is pie in the sky stuff that will never happen, I acknowledge that, doesnt stop me dreaming about how we could make football better in this state just like I dream of the world being a better place too!
If it makes you feel any better Id love to see the Power in another GF.
Geelong have room for improvement and I think we could better 119 points next time.

Well if history is anything to go by, Port can follow the NA lead from 89/91 and come back 2 years later and win a flag after a disasterous g/f result

Well i'm allowed to dream anyway

[Wedgie]

The Power are definately here to stay mate, I have no doubt about that so we can agree on one thing!;)
My proposal is pie in the sky stuff that will never happen, I acknowledge that, doesnt stop me dreaming about how we could make football better in this state just like I dream of the world being a better place too!
If it makes you feel any better Id love to see the Power in another GF.
Geelong have room for improvement and I think we could better 119 points next time.

Well if history is anything to go by, Port can follow the NA lead from 89/91 and come back 2 years later and win a flag after a disasterous g/f result

Well i'm allowed to dream anyway

Good call GWW, Port kicked a lower GF score against the Roosters in 1904 or 1905 than what North managed in 89 and they came back from that.
Alas I think the Magpies and Roosters had a bit more heart than the Powder do though so I doubt it.

[GWW]

Those well known handbaggers turned themselves around after 40 years so its not a complete lost cause out Alberton way

You just had to mention that result from 1904 too didn't you

Certainly a lot of work to be done though, no Port supporter would say otherwise. But the club is probably in a better position now, as far as the make up of the squad, than it was in 2000 when it had a very poor year (and subsequently competed in next 5 finals series). Whether or not the club can turn it around like it did in the early 2000's is still to be seen, but i'm confident the club wont be down for an extended period like Richmond or Carlton.

[evans01]

Those well known handbaggers turned themselves around after 40 years so its not a complete lost cause out Alberton way

You just had to mention that result from 1904 too didn't you

Certainly a lot of work to be done though, no Port supporter would say otherwise. But the club is probably in a better position now, as far as the make up of the squad, than it was in 2000 when it had a very poor year (and subsequently competed in next 5 finals series). Whether or not the club can turn it around like it did in the early 2000's is still to be seen, but i'm confident the club wont be down for an extended period like Richmond or Carlton.

agreed Port have an enormous amount of work to do both on and off the field.........the attendance that really disappointed me was the opening round against Geelong only 28,000 for a first round g/f replay was a disgrace.........should have been a mimimum of 35+................
cant understand the Power attendance issues coz they have been relatively competitive in their short history and I personally believe they should be getting a mimimum of 34 - 36,000 per home game, excluding Crows games.........

the membership levels have been reasonably steady but interest outside of the core members seems low.....................................................

how you fix this issue is anyones guess.............????

and if the power continues to perform badly i can only see the attendances suffering even more............................................