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Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:03 pmby Booney
MW wrote:There is no doubt there is an element of leadership, fitness, talent, desire and operations in how we are going at the moment. I guess these reviews will determine what % of each is contributing to it.
Agree the legacy of Walsh passing and camp has had long term effects that will likely never go away with each player who was involved in those periods. Couple that with the constant local and national attention this club has received since the 2017 GF, and mentally they are completely shot. If I was a player I would not want to play for us for that alone.
You would think a change of environment would be the preferred option for many of the players to reinvigorate themselves.
You would think a change of the environment they are in and shall remain in may be enough for some, not for others.
The troubles run deep.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:05 pmby MW
When there is platforms for both clubs to run media agendas, I would hate to play football in SA for either club. Period. It has become toxic.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:20 pmby Booney
MW wrote:When there is platforms for both clubs to run media agendas, I would hate to play football in SA for either club. Period. It has become toxic.
I think Jenkins is leading the way in many respects.
Speak openly and then the scuttlebutt gets hit on the head instantly. We need more of the people at the top ( I think Koch and Thomas do, a little ) to shoot straight from the hip and not bullshit us, other wise Joe Moron-Public buys into the hyperbole.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:27 pmby Jim05
Booney wrote:MW wrote:When there is platforms for both clubs to run media agendas, I would hate to play football in SA for either club. Period. It has become toxic.
I think Jenkins is leading the way in many respects.
Speak openly and then the scuttlebutt gets hit on the head instantly. We need more of the people at the top ( I think Koch and Thomas do, a little ) to shoot straight from the hip and not bullshit us, other wise Joe Moron-Public buys into the hyperbole.
All clubs BS and tell mistruths to their fans unfortunately, it’s just that in a 2 horse town their is a lot more scrutiny.
It does make clubs look silly when they are caught red handed though. The Crows one the other day was a beauty where they called a press conference to announce Douglas’ retirement and then 20 seconds after the presser starts Douglas says he is looking to play on at another club if possible.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:32 pmby Jim05
Jake Kelly signs a 2 year extension
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:58 pmby JK
MW wrote:There is no doubt there is an element of leadership, fitness, talent, desire and operations in how we are going at the moment. I guess these reviews will determine what % of each is contributing to it.
Agree the legacy of Walsh passing and camp has had long term effects that will likely never go away with each player who was involved in those periods. Couple that with the constant local and national attention this club has received since the 2017 GF, and mentally they are completely shot. If I was a player I would not want to play for us for that alone.
Well put. If the club can tidy a few things up off-field they may not dwell as long as many expect. Problem at the moment is that the CURRENT group of players wouldn't want to be there, no reason new players should be as affected. Turning over the list as much as they reasonably can could be a win-win for both the club and players alike.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:54 amby Bandit
I wonder how Betts time at crows is going to play out. The club will be wanting him to take an offer elsewhere so they dont get a fan uproar when they give him the boot, Betts will want the club to openly say he's cut so he doesnt look like a deserter. A lot going on under the covers you would suspect.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:07 amby Booney
Tom Rehn reporting Andrew Fagan will play a role on the "external" review. Surely not? Although I'm not surprised if he does....
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:13 amby Spargo
Booney wrote:Tom Rehn reporting Andrew Fagan will play a role on the "external" review. Surely not? Although I'm not surprised if he does....
Come on
mate...
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:50 pmby MW
So turns out Dunstall is chairing the external group with Pavlich and a couple of others, and Fagan to be involved as requested.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:53 pmby Brodlach
MW wrote:So turns out Dunstall is chairing the external group with Pavlich and a couple of others, and the panel requested Fagan to be involved.
Hmmm so the hysteria wasn’t warranted. Who would have thought
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:56 pmby Trader
MW wrote:So turns out Dunstall is chairing the external group with Pavlich and a couple of others, and the panel requested Fagan to be involved.
MW wrote:So turns out Dunstall is chairing the external group with Pavlich and a couple of others, and Fagan to be involved as requested.
Requested by who? Fagan?
I actually don't have an issue with Fagan being involved, but the fact you've specifically edited the post, moving away from original wording indicated the panel requested he be involved, to "someone" requesting Fagan's involvement is interesting.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:59 pmby MW
Because I got the quote wrong. I don't work for AFC mate. Thanks for auditing my edit...
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:01 pmby Booney
Brodlach wrote:MW wrote:So turns out Dunstall is chairing the external group with Pavlich and a couple of others, and the panel requested Fagan to be involved.
Hmmm so the hysteria wasn’t warranted. Who would have thought
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:03 pmby Brodlach
If only I knew what that was Booney
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:05 pmby Spargo
MW wrote:Because I got the quote wrong. I don't work for AFC mate. Thanks for auditing my edit...
Once again, testy...
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:21 pmby Trader
Spargo wrote:MW wrote:Because I got the quote wrong. I don't work for AFC mate. Thanks for auditing my edit...
Once again, testy...
Very.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:23 pmby amber_fluid
IF done properly Fagan shouldn’t be involved.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:25 pmby daysofourlives
MW wrote:So turns out Dunstall is chairing the external group with Pavlich and a couple of others, and Fagan to be involved as requested.
What would they have to pay Pavlich and Dunstall to carry out this review?
What would their interest be in making the Crows better? May as well have got Kane Cornes to do it, now that would be a review
Re: Adelaide Crows 2019
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Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:27 pmby amber_fluid
daysofourlives wrote:MW wrote:So turns out Dunstall is chairing the external group with Pavlich and a couple of others, and Fagan to be involved as requested.
What would they have to pay Pavlich and Dunstall to carry out this review?
What would their interest be in making the Crows better? May as well have got Kane Cornes to do it, now that would be a review
They are paying them whatever they have to for them to tell them what they want to hear
