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Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:27 am
by Booney
Wedgie wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Does the media manager at the crows have any responsibility for how this and other dramas have been handled media wise.
Would he or she advise how and what to say?

Not in regard to the camp or other major dramas, that would be at board/CEO level.
Media manager would be more run of the mill stuff and organising players for interviews, etc


Absolutely the media manager would be involved, they'd be entrusted to make sure all parties are reading from the same script from the players to the coaches and the board. It's literally in their job title. :D

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:55 am
by Wedgie
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Does the media manager at the crows have any responsibility for how this and other dramas have been handled media wise.
Would he or she advise how and what to say?

Not in regard to the camp or other major dramas, that would be at board/CEO level.
Media manager would be more run of the mill stuff and organising players for interviews, etc


Absolutely the media manager would be involved, they'd be entrusted to make sure all parties are reading from the same script from the players to the coaches and the board. It's literally in their job title. :D

They don't have anyone labelled a media manager as such, I assumed he might be asking about the media coordinator.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:57 am
by Booney
Wedgie wrote:
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Does the media manager at the crows have any responsibility for how this and other dramas have been handled media wise.
Would he or she advise how and what to say?

Not in regard to the camp or other major dramas, that would be at board/CEO level.
Media manager would be more run of the mill stuff and organising players for interviews, etc


Absolutely the media manager would be involved, they'd be entrusted to make sure all parties are reading from the same script from the players to the coaches and the board. It's literally in their job title. :D

They don't have anyone labelled a media manager as such, I assumed he might be asking about the media coordinator.


Ian Shuttleworth is General Manager - Media and Communications.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:11 am
by whufc
He would only be in advisory role.....if the board/ceo decided to go in a different direction the head of media is not stopping that. He would just be the expert on the what would be the best way to handle.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:12 am
by amber_fluid
whufc wrote:He would only be in advisory role.....if the board/ceo decided to go in a different direction the head of media is not stopping that. He would just be the expert on the what would be the best way to handle.


He’s clearly failed then.
Clusterf**k!

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:13 am
by mighty_tiger_79
I agree the media manager would have to be involved, particularly with how everyone will spin the message

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:16 am
by MW
Pure definition of "don't shoot the messenger"
He's a mouth piece, not a decision maker.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:29 am
by Booney
The executive would make the decisions but he would absolutely be involved from that point, discussing how they would like that message conveyed.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:31 am
by MW
Booney wrote:The executive would make the decisions but he would absolutely be involved from that point, discussing how they would like that message conveyed.


My wife works in Communications...their job is how to best communicate the message from the executive, not what the message is.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:33 am
by Booney
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:The executive would make the decisions but he would absolutely be involved from that point, discussing how they would like that message conveyed.


My wife works in Communications...their job is how to best communicate the message from the executive, not what the message is.


:lol:

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:35 am
by Wedgie
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:The executive would make the decisions but he would absolutely be involved from that point, discussing how they would like that message conveyed.


My wife works in Communications...their job is how to best communicate the message from the executive, not what the message is.

Exactly

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:44 am
by Ronnie
Nothing becomes more important than - selling the story

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:55 am
by amber_fluid
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:The executive would make the decisions but he would absolutely be involved from that point, discussing how they would like that message conveyed.


My wife works in Communications...their job is how to best communicate the message from the executive, not what the message is.


Communicate it truthfully one would hope!
Not sure that’s the case here

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:16 pm
by Dutchy
So as the AFC have never told us, while they would have agreed as a club, who do you think initially thought of engaging CM for the camp? Must have started with an individual, Burton?

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:37 pm
by cracka
Dutchy wrote:So as the AFC have never told us, while they would have agreed as a club, who do you think initially thought of engaging CM for the camp? Must have started with an individual, Burton?

I thought it was Pyke

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:39 pm
by MW
cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So as the AFC have never told us, while they would have agreed as a club, who do you think initially thought of engaging CM for the camp? Must have started with an individual, Burton?

I thought it was Pyke


Who was sacked/moved on/"resigned"? Pyke, Burton, Fagan.
Probably answers the question.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:40 pm
by whufc
amber_fluid wrote:
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:The executive would make the decisions but he would absolutely be involved from that point, discussing how they would like that message conveyed.


My wife works in Communications...their job is how to best communicate the message from the executive, not what the message is.


Communicate it truthfully one would hope!
Not sure that’s the case here


Well the communication person wouldn't actually know what the truth is would they as they most likely weren't on the camp.....they weren't interviewing players about the camp. They would have been fed whatever the board/ceo whoever in their hierarchy they report to told them

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:51 pm
by Ronnie
MW wrote:
cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So as the AFC have never told us, while they would have agreed as a club, who do you think initially thought of engaging CM for the camp? Must have started with an individual, Burton?

I thought it was Pyke


Who was sacked/moved on/"resigned"? Pyke, Burton, Fagan.
Probably answers the question.


Failure is an orphan, so no one has actually put their hand up publicly at least and said, yep I wanted to take on these weirdos from CM.
Pyke might get another coaching job. I doubt Fagan will ever be seen again in AFL land.

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:03 pm
by MW
does anyone know where I can read Sam McClures article that got him sued by CM?

Re: Adelaide

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:15 pm
by Brodlach
Not sure what the communication manager has to do with any of this