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Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:48 pm
by Brodlach
Q. wrote:
DOC wrote:Not enough weight given to interstate travel, the biggest factor bar none. Toughest on WA and Qld clubs
The counter weight is playing an interstate side for home games though

What do you mean?

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:53 pm
by Jim05
Brodlach wrote:
Q. wrote:
DOC wrote:Not enough weight given to interstate travel, the biggest factor bar none. Toughest on WA and Qld clubs
The counter weight is playing an interstate side for home games though

What do you mean?

Interstate sides have a genuine home ground advantage. Collingwood playing Richmond, Hawthorn, Essendon etc at the MCG isn’t really a HGA

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:59 pm
by DOC
I agrree with that.

Same advantage the VFL sides have playing at home against an Interstate side. Clubs from WA etc have to do it 10 times though.

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:33 pm
by Q.
DOC wrote:I agrree with that.

Same advantage the VFL sides have playing at home against an Interstate side. Clubs from WA etc have to do it 10 times though.
The counter weight being they also get ten genuine home games against interstate sides

AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:34 pm
by Jim05
DOC wrote:I agrree with that.

Same advantage the VFL sides have playing at home against an Interstate side. Clubs from WA etc have to do it 10 times though.

Which is balanced by 10 times where they have absolute HGA.
Looking at 2019

WEST COAST
HGA: 10
50/50: 2
Away: 10

ESSENDON
HGA: 5
50/50: 11
Away: 6

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:53 pm
by DOC
Good point(s).

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:31 am
by Trader
So we agree the home ground advantage / away game disadvantage balances out.

Which gets back to DOCs original point of the volume of travel. WA sides still do more of that than vic sides.

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:40 am
by Spargo
Also, Collingwood & Essendon get yet another leg up by never having to play at Kardinia Pk, Ballarat, Hobart, Launceston, Cairns, Alice Springs, China etc
I understand the crowd factor but it’s still another huge advantage they’re given.

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:52 am
by Jim05
Spargo wrote:Also, Collingwood & Essendon get yet another leg up by never having to play at Kardinia Pk, Ballarat, Hobart, Launceston, Cairns, Alice Springs, China etc
I understand the crowd factor but it’s still another huge advantage they’re given.

I’m happy to play down in Geelong and think we should be made to go there but no to all those other dumps. If clubs want to whore themselves out to other cities let them do so against the low drawing clubs

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:14 pm
by Booney
Spargo wrote:Also, Collingwood & Essendon get yet another leg up by never having to play at Kardinia Pk, Ballarat, Hobart, Launceston, Cairns, Alice Springs, China etc
I understand the crowd factor but it’s still another huge advantage they’re given.


Can't complain about much, can they?

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:41 pm
by Dutchy
Essendon and Collingwood the new darlings of the draw in 2019, putting a lot of faith in Essendon to make the finals and all of a sudden Collingwood are considered greater than Richmond for winning the prelim, take that result away and you have to question the faith they are putting in them

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:42 pm
by Dutchy
Listening to Fagan last night on AA and all he talked about with the draw was the commercial aspect, what a great CEO

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:04 pm
by DOC
Just read Carl Dilenas response to the draw. Same if not worse. Its about selling memberships at this time.

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:13 pm
by Jim05
Dutchy wrote:Essendon and Collingwood the new darlings of the draw in 2019, putting a lot of faith in Essendon to make the finals and all of a sudden Collingwood are considered greater than Richmond for winning the prelim, take that result away and you have to question the faith they are putting in them

As Marvels biggest and most profitable tenant it was a certainty that we would would get more prime time fixtures now that the AFL own it.

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:44 pm
by am Bays
The goss up here in Darwin/Tiwi Islands is Brisbane have tabled an offer to Cyril Rioli Jnr and he is considering it.

Will depend on what his grandfather (Long side of the family) says as Cyril is back up here as he is crook but if he says "go Grandson, it's what I want"....

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:14 pm
by daysofourlives
am Bays wrote:The goss up here in Darwin/Tiwi Islands is Brisbane have tabled an offer to Cyril Rioli Jnr and he is considering it.

Will depend on what his grandfather (Long side of the family) says as Cyril is back up here as he is crook but if he says "go Grandson, it's what I want"....


Pretty sure he cant play anywhere next year as he was contracted for 2019. I know there was some cock up with the official red tape side of things but i cant see the AFL letting him play anywhere next year, altough being Brisbane they might turn a blind eye, make it up as they go type thing

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:58 am
by stan
daysofourlives wrote:
am Bays wrote:The goss up here in Darwin/Tiwi Islands is Brisbane have tabled an offer to Cyril Rioli Jnr and he is considering it.

Will depend on what his grandfather (Long side of the family) says as Cyril is back up here as he is crook but if he says "go Grandson, it's what I want"....


Pretty sure he cant play anywhere next year as he was contracted for 2019. I know there was some cock up with the official red tape side of things but i cant see the AFL letting him play anywhere next year, altough being Brisbane they might turn a blind eye, make it up as they go type thing
So you mean just business as normal for the AFL then?

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:53 pm
by Booney
Champion Data have ranked the 18 AFL lists in order :

Melbourne
Adelaide
Richmond
Essendon
Collingwood
Geelong
GWS Giants
North Melbourne
Hawthorn
Brisbane
West Coast
Port Adelaide
Sydney
St Kilda
Western Bulldogs
Carlton
Fremantle
Gold Coast

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:26 pm
by goddy11
Booney wrote:Champion Data have ranked the 18 AFL lists in order :

Melbourne
Adelaide
Richmond
Essendon
Collingwood
Geelong
GWS Giants
North Melbourne
Hawthorn
Brisbane
West Coast
Port Adelaide
Sydney
St Kilda
Western Bulldogs
Carlton
Fremantle
Gold Coast


West Coast at 11. Realy?

Re: AFL 2019 and proposed rule changes

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:03 pm
by Spargo
goddy11 wrote:
Booney wrote:Champion Data have ranked the 18 AFL lists in order :

Melbourne
Adelaide
Richmond
Essendon
Collingwood
Geelong
GWS Giants
North Melbourne
Hawthorn
Brisbane
West Coast
Port Adelaide
Sydney
St Kilda
Western Bulldogs
Carlton
Fremantle
Gold Coast


West Coast at 11. Realy?


They were 12th on last year’s list.