Crows V Eagles Prelim

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Postby Booney » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:13 am

NFC wrote:Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.

Still sour at 3 years on end of complete and utter choking eh?


I am,yes I am,but I know that after 2 years of it my team won the flag,you,and your team my good man are not assured of anything.BTW,that sour taste will hang around all summer.
If you want to go quickly, go alone.

If you want to go far, go together.
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Postby Aerie » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:16 am

I only caught the third qtr on radio and the last on the tv, but in the end the class rose to the top. West Coast not only had better players, but their more conventional game plan of kicking to a leading forward was less taxing than the Crows with numbers back running the ball all day.

Bassett got found out when he had to pick someone up. He may be the best loose defensive player in the competition, but he'll never go down as a great because he can't stop an opponent. The Crows did well, but yet another Preliminary final loss will go down in the history books and they are running out of time with this playing group. Next year or it may be another 5 or 6 years before they can challenge again.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:10 am

Aerie wrote:Bassett got found out when he had to pick someone up. He may be the best loose defensive player in the competition, but he'll never go down as a great because he can't stop an opponent. The Crows did well, but yet another Preliminary final loss will go down in the history books and they are running out of time with this playing group. Next year or it may be another 5 or 6 years before they can challenge again.


According to some people on this site, they can realistically challenge every year.

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Postby mal » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:21 pm

Booney wrote:
mal wrote:To get within 10 points of a side that is a 10 goal better
team was quite an achievement.
Beaten but not disgraced.


LMAO Mal,you seriously think WCE are ten goals better than the Crows? Does Adelaides early to mid season form leave you under the impression they are that far behind? More of a mental thing than a personel issue when it comes to Adelaide V WCE...


Adelaide have 6 very good footballers.
Craig has done an unbelievable job getting this mob to where they are.
He extracts the best from his list in the minor round.
In finals there is no 5th gear or improvement left.

On sheer talent WC are a 10 goal better team, but AC bridge that gap
because they perform at thier optimum ability.
The one day this year AC were off that level of intensity WC won by over 10 goals.

The 10 goal rule does not apply when they play other teams.
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Postby another grub » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:40 pm

well said MAL.
Didnt see Craigy holding up his tie like choko!!!! Oh hang on......!?!??! maybe thats because they didnt win a flag.

The crows are starting up thier own bikie gang ....it will be called the Gypsy Chokers.
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Postby scoob » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:02 pm

Would like to hear peoples thoughts on the "extra" training theory of the crows this year- i see it as a complete failure as it took away all their momentum by dropping games they should have won, probably contributed to a already bad injury list and achieved them nothing as they were over ran by a WCE side at home in front of vocal home crowd? hindsight is a fabulous thing but if it aint broke dont fix it! someone pull the wrong rein...was it super coach craig?
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Postby JK » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:11 pm

Aerie wrote:I only caught the third qtr on radio and the last on the tv, but in the end the class rose to the top. West Coast not only had better players, but their more conventional game plan of kicking to a leading forward was less taxing than the Crows with numbers back running the ball all day.

Bassett got found out when he had to pick someone up. He may be the best loose defensive player in the competition, but he'll never go down as a great because he can't stop an opponent. The Crows did well, but yet another Preliminary final loss will go down in the history books and they are running out of time with this playing group. Next year or it may be another 5 or 6 years before they can challenge again.


Excellent post Aerie, particularly the call on Bassett!

Crows biggest issues are their lack of pace, and poor tackling in open play (as opposed to immediate gang tackles around a disputed ball which any team can do), and I can't see either of these improving when your best players are all 30-odd years of age (Johncock excepted), and you lack a forward line ... I think Craigy has gotten the optimum out of this group and it still isn't enough, and I think they seriously need to start the dreaded "R-Word" process now!

Also think in time the Power will be more likely to give it a serious shake than the Crows.
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Postby another grub » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:13 pm

that hard training prooved nothing scoob..... maybe they should have tried using thier brains instead of legs?
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Postby Blue Boy » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:23 pm

Bassett didnt have gastro the week before game !!!!!
It is what it is !!!
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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:11 pm

Blue Boy wrote:Bassett didnt have gastro the week before game !!!!!


You're right. He was lacking a little run.

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Postby sydney-dog » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:04 pm

Bassett plays like exery other HB Flanker in the league, look at players such as Goddaed, he has not picked up a player in the past 3 years, you boys seem to forget that for many seasons Bassett played at Full Back given away hight and weight and did a mighty job

you boys need to watch a bit more of Bassett, he always leaves his man to help out his team mate and he always puts himself in the hole and his body on the line

I can not believe some of the posts on this site

REB - Mate yes I do believe there is nop reason yoiu can challenge every year, if you want to accept cop out excuses from your club well thats your call, obviously the cats premiership clock has been running slow for 40 years
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Postby Magpiespower » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:52 pm

sydney-dog wrote:I can not believe some of the posts on this site


Me neither!

How about this one...

"...there is no reason [why] you can't challenge every year..."

:lol:
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Postby sydney-dog » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:27 pm

Magpiespower

why can't you

let me guess "the draft"
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Postby Magpiespower » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:39 pm

sydney-dog wrote:
let me guess "the draft"


No.

Common sense.
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Postby sydney-dog » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:02 pm

Magpiespower

ok, common sense says you prepare for failure
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Postby Dutchy » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:12 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Bassett plays like exery other HB Flanker in the league, look at players such as Goddaed, he has not picked up a player in the past 3 years, you boys seem to forget that for many seasons Bassett played at Full Back given away hight and weight and did a mighty job

you boys need to watch a bit more of Bassett, he always leaves his man to help out his team mate and he always puts himself in the hole and his body on the line

I can not believe some of the posts on this site

REB - Mate yes I do believe there is nop reason yoiu can challenge every year, if you want to accept cop out excuses from your club well thats your call, obviously the cats premiership clock has been running slow for 40 years


Did you say "premiership clock" Sid?? :lol:
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Postby sydney-dog » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:32 pm

i did i did

to clarify my position, obviously no side can win it every year but I do believe even with Salary caps, draft constraints etc, their is so many other factors a club can control to position itself strongly to 1. play finals and 2. to give a stong challenge

this premiership clock / window is used too loosely and at times clubs hide behind the theory as an excuse

if you believe it's not your time it wont be, that's the point I have been trying to make
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Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:35 am

No worries Cyclops. Your comment about Goddard shows you know naff all about every club except the Cows. Open the other eye.

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Postby Magpiespower » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:58 am

sydney-dog wrote:Magpiespower

ok, common sense says you prepare for failure


:roll:

The reality is you can't challenge every year.

Build towards it? Yes. Some years, challenge. Even win the bloody thing once in a while.

The brief history of your beloved Crows, never mind the history of every other club, proves that.
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Postby JK » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:11 am

sydney-dog wrote:Bassett plays like exery other HB Flanker in the league, look at players such as Goddaed, he has not picked up a player in the past 3 years, you boys seem to forget that for many seasons Bassett played at Full Back given away hight and weight and did a mighty job

you boys need to watch a bit more of Bassett, he always leaves his man to help out his team mate and he always puts himself in the hole and his body on the line

I can not believe some of the posts on this site

REB - Mate yes I do believe there is nop reason yoiu can challenge every year, if you want to accept cop out excuses from your club well thats your call, obviously the cats premiership clock has been running slow for 40 years


Mate, I'm a Norwood supporter so have always been a fan of Freddy's (and any other ex-Leg), however IMHO Aerie was right, and the hound dog was found out on the weekend ... He has been an extremely damaging player this year no doubt, but quality footballers (as an AA should be) play well even when it's not on their own terms ... Finals are always faster and more physical than the minor round and I think Bass was severely found wanting on the step up - No disrespect to a fine player, just my honest assessment.
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