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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby clanger » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:27 am

cripple wrote:Dangerfield. Sorry Cow fans, but what has this guy done? Potential? Check. But Hentschel had potential. Results? Not yet. Was this guy a bee's appendage away from being AFC captain this year? Yes. Would he make the starting 22 at a Geelong/Collingwood/Bulldogs side? No. Overrated.


save your judgement on whether dangerfield is overated until he has play enough games that he should be peforming at a consisent level, remember he is only 21/22 and play 46 games
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:31 am

clanger wrote:
cripple wrote:Dangerfield. Sorry Cow fans, but what has this guy done? Potential? Check. But Hentschel had potential. Results? Not yet. Was this guy a bee's appendage away from being AFC captain this year? Yes. Would he make the starting 22 at a Geelong/Collingwood/Bulldogs side? No. Overrated.


save your judgement on whether dangerfield is overated until he has play enough games that he should be peforming at a consisent level, remember he is only 21/22 and play 46 games


I have heard 'experts' say that they expect players to start performing on a more consistent basis after they play about 30 games. Dont know if that counts though for a bloke who is only 21.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby clanger » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:37 am

whufc wrote:
clanger wrote:
cripple wrote:Dangerfield. Sorry Cow fans, but what has this guy done? Potential? Check. But Hentschel had potential. Results? Not yet. Was this guy a bee's appendage away from being AFC captain this year? Yes. Would he make the starting 22 at a Geelong/Collingwood/Bulldogs side? No. Overrated.


save your judgement on whether dangerfield is overated until he has play enough games that he should be peforming at a consisent level, remember he is only 21/22 and play 46 games


I have heard 'experts' say that they expect players to start performing on a more consistent basis after they play about 30 games. Dont know if that counts though for a bloke who is only 21.


i say about 75-90 games they should start performing at a consisent level
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:48 am

So in the last two pages cripple has bagged Matty Scarlett,talked up Liam Jurrah and called Brian Lake Brian Harris.

When do you start your column's in The Advertiser mate? :lol:
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:57 am

Booney wrote:So in the last two pages cripple has bagged Matty Scarlett,talked up Liam Jurrah and called Brian Lake Brian Harris.

When do you start your column's in The Advertiser mate? :lol:


as soon as they start paying me. These are all only opinions and more often then not are based on the players i enjoy watching as against the ones i don't like watching. I dont expect everyone to agree with me. With the Brian Harris thing that was an innocent oversight.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:22 pm

I dont particulary like many a player or enjoy watching them play, but some of them I rate very highly.

This thread, I thought, was about players we rate ( or over rate ) and not whom we like ( or not like ) to watch.

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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:28 pm

I rate the players that i like to watch. I like to watch players that i think are skillful, fair and play the game in the right spirit. As a result i think some of the players i like to watch are under rated and some that i dont like watching are over rated. Just my opinions and i maintain that Scarlett is over rated when i watch him play.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Bum Crack » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:32 pm

cripple wrote:I rate the players that i like to watch. I like to watch players that i think are skillful, fair and play the game in the right spirit. As a result i think some of the players i like to watch are under rated and some that i dont like watching are over rated. Just my opinions and i maintain that Scarlett is over rated when i watch him play.

Yeah, he's terrible :roll:
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:36 pm

there is a difference between being over rated and not being a good player. All players that play afl football are good players but some seem to get more positive publicity then others.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Bum Crack » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:39 pm

cripple wrote:there is a difference between being over rated and not being a good player. All players that play afl football are good players but some seem to get more positive publicity then others.

How can you seriously say Scarlett is overated?? He's possibly the greatest full back to ever play the game and he not only stops his opponents from scoring, he also provides a launching pad from defence by continually racking up possessions and setting up their run from defence. He's a gun.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:53 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
cripple wrote:there is a difference between being over rated and not being a good player. All players that play afl football are good players but some seem to get more positive publicity then others.

How can you seriously say Scarlett is overated?? He's possibly the greatest full back to ever play the game and he not only stops his opponents from scoring, he also provides a launching pad from defence by continually racking up possessions and setting up their run from defence. He's a gun.


As i said in my initial post i think he has had the benefit of playing behind an extremely good midfield group who have put obscene amounts of pressure on the opposition ball coming into geelongs defence. As a result he is able to pick off bad delivery to his opponent rather easily and go third man up in a lot of contests. To say he is one of the best full backs ever is nuts when you think about the likes of Silvagni, Mckenna, Ashley Mcintosh when down back and even Mal Michael who have played in recent times. I would rate almost all the full backs of the 80's/ early 90's who competed with lockett, ablett, modra and dunstall as better then any full back in the game today. The role of a full back has changed and maybe thats why i think Scarlett is over rated but its just an opinion and you can like it or lump it.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Bum Crack » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:56 pm

cripple wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:
cripple wrote:there is a difference between being over rated and not being a good player. All players that play afl football are good players but some seem to get more positive publicity then others.

How can you seriously say Scarlett is overated?? He's possibly the greatest full back to ever play the game and he not only stops his opponents from scoring, he also provides a launching pad from defence by continually racking up possessions and setting up their run from defence. He's a gun.


As i said in my initial post i think he has had the benefit of playing behind an extremely good midfield group who have put obscene amounts of pressure on the opposition ball coming into geelongs defence. As a result he is able to pick off bad delivery to his opponent rather easily and go third man up in a lot of contests. To say he is one of the best full backs ever is nuts when you think about the likes of Silvagni, Mckenna, Ashley Mcintosh when down back and even Mal Michael who have played in recent times. I would rate almost all the full backs of the 80's/ early 90's who competed with lockett, ablett, modra and dunstall as better then any full back in the game today. The role of a full back has changed and maybe thats why i think Scarlett is over rated but its just an opinion and you can like it or lump it.

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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby GWW » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:37 pm

cripple wrote:As i said in my initial post i think he has had the benefit of playing behind an extremely good midfield group who have put obscene amounts of pressure on the opposition ball coming into geelongs defence. As a result he is able to pick off bad delivery to his opponent rather easily and go third man up in a lot of contests. To say he is one of the best full backs ever is nuts when you think about the likes of Silvagni, Mckenna, Ashley Mcintosh when down back and even Mal Michael who have played in recent times. I would rate almost all the full backs of the 80's/ early 90's who competed with lockett, ablett, modra and dunstall as better then any full back in the game today. The role of a full back has changed and maybe thats why i think Scarlett is over rated but its just an opinion and you can like it or lump it.


When did Guy McKenna ever play full back? Silvagni was a little over rated, even had 13 goals kicked on him by Modra :)
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby MatteeG » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:44 pm

Scarlett is very very good. Seeing him first hand play the perfect defensive rebounding role on Tuesday was amazing (and IMMENSELY frustrating :( )
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:47 pm

cripple wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:
cripple wrote:there is a difference between being over rated and not being a good player. All players that play afl football are good players but some seem to get more positive publicity then others.

How can you seriously say Scarlett is overated?? He's possibly the greatest full back to ever play the game and he not only stops his opponents from scoring, he also provides a launching pad from defence by continually racking up possessions and setting up their run from defence. He's a gun.


As i said in my initial post i think he has had the benefit of playing behind an extremely good midfield group who have put obscene amounts of pressure on the opposition ball coming into geelongs defence. As a result he is able to pick off bad delivery to his opponent rather easily and go third man up in a lot of contests. To say he is one of the best full backs ever is nuts when you think about the likes of Silvagni, Mckenna, Ashley Mcintosh when down back and even Mal Michael who have played in recent times. I would rate almost all the full backs of the 80's/ early 90's who competed with lockett, ablett, modra and dunstall as better then any full back in the game today. The role of a full back has changed and maybe thats why i think Scarlett is over rated but its just an opinion and you can like it or lump it.


McKenna? McIntosh? :))

Any chance you rate him higher than Andrew Dunkley? Just, maybe?
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:51 pm

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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Mythical Creature » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:57 pm

What about Darren Gaspar? Surely you could rate him higher than Scarlett aswell Cripple?
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Bum Crack » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:05 pm

What about Mark Zanotti??
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Jim05 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:06 pm

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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby the milky bar kid » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:07 pm

Elite midfielders are over rated...

Hear me out. I'm sick of when the media & others talk about the best players in the competition & they sit there & say it's Ablett, Judd, Swan, etc.
The value & importance of having good key position players is greater then having the elite midfielders.
If all 17 teams were disolved tomorrow & a draft was held with all players being available I'd almost garuntee that (disregarding age & current fitness) Franklin, Goodes, Brown, Pavlich, Lake, Scarlett & Sandilands would be taken before the ultra elite midfielders.
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