Hudson quits Crows

[Stumps]

Target Jordan McMahon? LMAO

Do you really need a soft half back flanker who skirts the packs to complete your back half?

28 or 29,2 or 3 year deal,I think most Crow fans would feel Hudson is being under valued by the club,regardless of any measures they have in place for signing of 30 odd year olds.IMO.

For mine,Maric is not good enough,just a little small and as haloman has put so well ( ) the primary function of a ruckman is to tap to advantage,not a strength of Maric.

Meeson and Griffin both show potential,that ugly 'potential' word has finished many a players career far too early.Potential only at this stage for those two.

Biglands is capable but vulnerable in the same breathe after a full recon.

Just like people to rate the ruckmen in the league.

Cox,Lade,McIntosh,Ottens,Fraser,Blake,Brogan,Hudson,Everitt,White,Brown.Where does Hudson sit?

Half back flanks that skirt the pack are pretty handy in the AFL Booney- dont know what game your watching but todays footy is more like circle work than big packs like the old days, you need pace and mcmahon fits the bill perfectly

Indeed they are,they are also a dime a dozen,Crows have McLeod,Johncock,Mattner in some respects Bassett also plays this role.McMahon you can have,waste of a trade,IMO.

Fair call booney, il pay that one. For those saying how good Griffen is, is he really that good, for every decent game he plays 5 quiet ones- i reckon he is very very overrated at this point int time. cooney would be a better option- not that johnny reid would be reading this post though i wouldnt think

[JK]

I actually reckon Griffen shows a lot and is worth persisting with ... Seems to have good hands and mobility, and tidy foot skills (certainly for a ruckman anyway) ... For a lot of these kids it's hard to assess how good their actual ruck work might ever be as much depends on how quickly their bodies fill out.

[Felch]

I actually reckon Griffen shows a lot and is worth persisting with ... Seems to have good hands and mobility, and tidy foot skills (certainly for a ruckman anyway) ... For a lot of these kids it's hard to assess how good their actual ruck work might ever be as much depends on how quickly their bodies fill out.

I think Stumps is talking about Ryan Griffen - W/Bulldogs. If this is the case, he is much better than Cooney, IMO. Cooney is a pack-skirting, front-runner. Wont put his head/body anywhere near a contested ball.
I agree Jon Griffin is worth keeping. Not overly impressed with him, but showed glimpses.

[Punk Rooster]

rumour gathering momentum is Carlton are talking to Nick Gill...

[NFC]

rumour gathering momentum is Carlton are talking to Nick Gill...

Serious? Where did you hear this?

[locky801]

rumour gathering momentum is Carlton are talking to Nick Gill...

Serious? Where did you hear this?

Not Denis Pagan

[Hondo]

I got the impression on 5AA tonight that Hudson and the Crows are still talking

Dunno maybe I heard it wrong???

[CUTTERMAN]

Griffen has been hampered by injuries most years hasn't he

[NFC]

I got the impression on 5AA tonight that Hudson and the Crows are still talking

Dunno maybe I heard it wrong???

You heard correctly. Doubt he'll be back with all that's happened though.

[NFC]

Griffen has been hampered by injuries most years hasn't he

Jon Griffin? No.

Ryan? Yes.

[sydney-dog]

Blue Boy

I was made aware of the Huddo situation a few months back, this is why I nominated Huddo to be drafted in the possible crows delisting / trades thread two weeks ago

On Jordan McMahon, I am little shocked that so many don't rate him, he has great skills, genuine pace, can play HB or in the midfield, he is exactly what the crows need

[NFC]

Blue Boy

I was made aware of the Huddo situation a few months back, this is why I nominated Huddo to be drafted in the possible crows delisting / trades thread two weeks ago

On Jordan McMahon, I am little shocked that so many don't rate him, he has great skills, genuine pace, can play HB or in the midfield, he is exactly what the crows need

I've always rated McMahon, but we have Hinge and Pfeiffer, two great athletes with plenty of pace. While McMahon is being underrated on here he's not exactly what we need IMO.

[sydney-dog]

NFC

Jordan is only 24 and has played over 100 AFL games, he can play midfield

Hinge, well he has played half a game, HB seems to be ideal for him, however he has yet to force his way in to the team

Pfieffer, he is anotherplayer I expect to come on, however, I'm not so sure on his leg speed...

My view, the crows need more depth with running options, Roo is gone, while Goody, Macca, Torney and Edwards are fast approaching the end

[NFC]

NFC

Jordan is only 24 and has played over 100 AFL games, he can play midfield

Hinge, well he has played half a game, HB seems to be ideal for him, however he has yet to force his way in to the team

Pfieffer, he is anotherplayer I expect to come on, however, I'm not so sure on his leg speed...

My view, the crows need more depth with running options, Roo is gone, while Goody, Macca, Torney and Edwards are fast approaching the end

From memory Pfeiffer ran below 3 seconds in the 20m test. While he’s doesn’t have express pace, it’s more than adequate. Hinge will be a player as long as they give him a chance.

McMahon's one of the fastest players in the league and his run and carry would be a nice edition to the team. There’s no doubt he would be a permanent member of our 22 and yes most of our runners are slowing down, but I’d still give him a miss unless he came relatively cheaply.

Pfeiffer can play midfield/half back flank, and Hinge has had some impressive performances in the midfield for Glenelg. I’d be confident both could fulfill McMahon’s role.

Don't forget about Mackay, he'll be a good wingman in time who will provide a lot of run. I'd expect him to even play a game or two in 2008.

[sydney-dog]

NFC

the more pace we can get in our side the better, the pairing of McMahon and Macca of HB would provide plenty of run....

I would still find room in my side for both Hinge and Pfieffer, when they finally gets a good run

Hopefully next year we may see a changing of the guard, players such as Pfieffer, Hinge, Maric, Griffen and Douglas, have all served their time, and it's time for them to start putting Torney, Doughty, Massie, Shirley and Biglands under ernormous selection pressure, McMahon would add depth, pace and flexibility to our list.

if we got
McMahon, pacey HB / Midfielder
Tiller, pacy 6FT 3 utility
Woods, Young Ruckman
WB pick #5, this would advance us in the draft by 5 positions and enable us to draft B Ebert

what would we give up, Huddo, Kenny and our pick 10, then I would be happy with this deal

[stan]

NFC

the more pace we can get in our side the better, the pairing of McMahon and Macca of HB would provide plenty of run....

I would still find room in my side for both Hinge and Pfieffer, when they finally gets a good run

Hopefully next year we may see a changing of the guard, players such as Pfieffer, Hinge, Maric, Griffen and Douglas, have all served their time, and it's time for them to start putting Torney, Doughty, Massie, Shirley and Biglands under ernormous selection pressure, McMahon would add depth, pace and flexibility to our list.

if we got
McMahon, pacey HB / Midfielder
Tiller, pacy 6FT 3 utility
Woods, Young Ruckman
WB pick #5, this would advance us in the draft by 5 positions and enable us to draft B Ebert

what would we give up, Huddo, Kenny and our pick 10, then I would be happy with this deal

Good luck with getting that. I cant see the crows coming away from trade week gaining that much, but good luck.

[sydney-dog]

on Woods, I would only Target Woods if Meesen goes, If Meesen stays, than Biglands, Maric, Griffen, Tippett and Meesen is plenty to work with,.

this would be the best outcome, reason being, it would allow Adelaide to hold on to pick #10, and if Adelaide could snare WB's pick #5 for Kenny and Huddo, this would mean, for the first time we would have 2 top 10 picks.

The WB have declared their desire by offering a 3 year term, they desperately need an experience ruckman, so the crows hold the aces in this deal

[Felch]

My mail says Pfieffer has some off-field discipline issues, and will be very lucky to retain his spot for 2008.

[stan]

on Woods, I would only Target Woods if Meesen goes, If Meesen stays, than Biglands, Maric, Griffen, Tippett and Meesen is plenty to work with,.

this would be the best outcome, reason being, it would allow Adelaide to hold on to pick #10, and if Adelaide could snare WB's pick #5 for Kenny and Huddo, this would mean, for the first time we would have 2 top 10 picks.

The WB have declared their desire by offering a 3 year term, they desperately need an experience ruckman, so the crows hold the aces in this deal

I think perhaps one big deal with the WB's would be the answer, pick #5 and a player for Hudson and McGregor.

[NFC]

My mail says Pfieffer has some off-field discipline issues, and will be very lucky to retain his spot for 2008.

Your mail? I think it's pretty much out in the open.

Anyway, Tiller has or is about to re-sign with the Dogs.