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So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

At least I won’t have to read about Ginnivan all week!

carey wrote:So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

I expect similar did happen to non-indigenous players.

Not sure what point you're making?

AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

Jim05 wrote:AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

whufc wrote:

Jim05 wrote:AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

Logical guess? Seriously if any agency such as Safe Work SA, the AFL or the AFL PA who are now apologising/acting dumb couldn’t find this information out when doing their investigation they should be packing their bags also. A lot of these recollection of events happened in a public space and if they just listened to one side of events they should be shot.

carey wrote:So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

Think you're off the mark here.

I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

LaughingKookaburra wrote:

whufc wrote:

Jim05 wrote:AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

Logical guess? Seriously if any agency such as Safe Work SA, the AFL or the AFL PA who are now apologising/acting dumb couldn’t find this information out when doing their investigation they should be packing their bags also. A lot of these recollection of events happened in a public space and if they just listened to one side of events they should be shot.

Safework and AFL both knew it all, Eddie confirmed that on 360 last night. It is only the AFLPA that are claiming they didnt know even though they spoke to the players.

Lightning McQueen wrote:I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

Collective Minds seem to be not copping any flack over it. Haven't heard them mentioned once on any reports

MW wrote:

LaughingKookaburra wrote:

whufc wrote:

Jim05 wrote:AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

Logical guess? Seriously if any agency such as Safe Work SA, the AFL or the AFL PA who are now apologising/acting dumb couldn’t find this information out when doing their investigation they should be packing their bags also. A lot of these recollection of events happened in a public space and if they just listened to one side of events they should be shot.

Safework and AFL both knew it all, Eddie confirmed that on 360 last night. It is only the AFLPA that are claiming they didnt know even though they spoke to the players.

Eddie's book also confirmed a rumour about the camp to be false. It was widely rumoured that the cupping of team-mates aggots happened but he said they refused to do it.

Lightning McQueen wrote:I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

That's what gets me as well.in all off this. At what stage dis a leader stand up and say this is all a bit ****** and put an end to it?

stan wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

That's what gets me as well.in all off this. At what stage dis a leader stand up and say this is all a bit ****** and put an end to it?

LM, over Stan's head like a hairnet

Mr Beefy wrote:LM, over Stan's head like a hairnet

Was caught in a trap.

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Mr Beefy wrote:LM, over Stan's head like a hairnet

Was caught in a trap.

Oh man i missed that one pretty well, bloody hell I'm splitting.

carey wrote:So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

Probably because no-one else has raised the issues.

I think people are forgetting - this was a snippet taken out of an autobiography. The life story of Eddie Betts - from childhood, to AFL, to kicking goals, to the birth of his kids - and yes the camp.

It's not like he's come out and decided to rag on the camp and the club out of the blue. The people responsible for bringing this up are the media, who are choosing to highlight one aspect of the book, one part of an amazing, truly inspiring story of a proud black man when there are so many great stories about Eddie Betts to report on.

Yes of course the camp was bad obviously, and of course Adel handled this poorly - but the commentary around Betts getting over it, or non-indigenous players not bringing it up, or that he had his chance to talk about it etc are ******* stupid.

The whole focus should be on his book release and the story of his life - the barriers he overcame and broke down, and the pathway he's forged for the next generation of Aboriginal people,, but no, that doesn't generate enough hatred and vitriol for the media to worry about.

Case in point, AFL 360 last night!
All they talked about was the camp like it was the only chapter in the book.
Eddie himself had to several times say hey its only one chapter in the book.
But Robbo had to keep going over old ground. Like he was trying to get him to cry.(ratings driven)
I wanted to hear something enlightening about his transition from being a naughty little boy to being a genuine star.

I'm really wish the media would do what their actual job is
Report on the actual game and leave the offield stuff alone.

700 accredited media, that's almost 1 per player.
All of them career climbing, hoping for that big scoop.
Hounding players constantly, contributes to poor mental health, which in turn means they play shit footy.
I want to see the best at their best!

Does Olsen have the onions to tap Ruccuito on the shoulder? The bloke isn't bright enough to read the tea leaves.

The Bedge wrote:I think people are forgetting - this was a snippet taken out of an autobiography. The life story of Eddie Betts - from childhood, to AFL, to kicking goals, to the birth of his kids - and yes the camp.

It's not like he's come out and decided to rag on the camp and the club out of the blue. The people responsible for bringing this up are the media, who are choosing to highlight one aspect of the book, one part of an amazing, truly inspiring story of a proud black man when there are so many great stories about Eddie Betts to report on.

Yes of course the camp was bad obviously, and of course Adel handled this poorly - but the commentary around Betts getting over it, or non-indigenous players not bringing it up, or that he had his chance to talk about it etc are ******* stupid.

The whole focus should be on his book release and the story of his life - the barriers he overcame and broke down, and the pathway he's forged for the next generation of Aboriginal people,, but no, that doesn't generate enough hatred and vitriol for the media to worry about.

My understanding is this was an extract given to The Age to promote the launch of his book. It was more than likely calculated to garner as much attention as he could muster in order to promote sales.